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'Hail Trump!': White Nationalists Salute the President Elect

 
Alt-Right is not in the list of 'leans' for DP.

They don't seem to have a website with a stated platform. All I could find was a couple of blogs.

Can someone here post a link to the platform?
 
d0gbreath said:
Alt-Right is not in the list of 'leans' for DP.

They don't seem to have a website with a stated platform. All I could find was a couple of blogs.

Can someone here post a link to the platform?
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PIPEWRENCH said:
Maybe he meant hail Cesar. Then we can accuse Trump of being a Roman.:lamo

Maybe he is a democrat. I know some registered democrats that voted for him.:lamo

Maybe he is a woman in disguise. I know several women who voted for him and have his signs in their yard.:lamo

Maybe this is ridiculous thinking by narrow minded people.:thumbs:
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Or maybe it is not.
 
d0gbreath said:
Alt-Right is not in the list of 'leans' for DP.

They don't seem to have a website with a stated platform. All I could find was a couple of blogs.

Can someone here post a link to the platform?
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An Establishment Conservative's Guide To The Alt-Right - Breitbart

Ikari said:
OK, so he has some dude. We'll see what Trump's policies are in the end.
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If Chief Strategist is just 'some dude' then ok sure.

Maybe Trump will ignore Bannon completely, I definitely hope so. So far I'm not convinced.
 
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Unfortunate. Trump has stated that he will be President of all Americans and told all to stop this stuff but unfortunately the media played this election up as a victory of white racists. And the result of this is that those racists hidden in the shadow feel empowered to come out. This stuff, and all the increase in racial violence, is on the media and their incorrect portrayal of Trump as a racist.
Interesting how Republicans are responsible for everything that happens while Democrats only are responsible if direct specific proof can be establish, according to many in the media.
 
CLAX1911 said:
well of course. That wasn't what I was saying. I was talking about how identity politics has made them more relevant. Think about it, it's just another identity.
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I don't think that they've become more relevant. I just think that they're getting more air time due to the media's attempt to smear Trump in any way possible. If the media stopped their smear tactics, or better yet had never even started them to begin with, we wouldn't be so divided right now.
 
Eric7216 said:
Unfortunate. Trump has stated that he will be President of all Americans and told all to stop this stuff but
unfortunately the media played this election up as a victory of white racists.
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 And the result of this is that those racists hidden in the shadow feel empowered to come out. This stuff, and all the increase in racial violence, is on the media and their incorrect portrayal of Trump as a racist.
Interesting how Republicans are responsible for everything that happens while Democrats only are responsible if direct specific proof can be establish, according to many in the media.
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I read the news every day but I missed that.Could you post a link please?
 
Kal'Stang said:
I don't think that they've become more relevant. I just think that they're getting more air time due to the media's attempt to smear Trump in any way possible.
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The more publicity they get the more people will listen to them. The more that listen to them they will hear they aren't the "kill all blacks and jews" type that the media painted them to be. They're more like Black lives matter. They are race identity ideologues. And in a culture where white people are told they have privileges and thus can't have an opinion about certian things. It will appeal to more and more white people.

If the media stopped their smear tactics, or better yet had never even started them to begin with, we wouldn't be so divided right now.
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The media represents cultural Marxism. They have made this monster. And it will cost them their credibility, it already has.

You really should read Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky.
 
Eric7216 said:
Unfortunate. Trump has stated that he will be President of all Americans and told all to stop this stuff but unfortunately the media played this election up as a victory of white racists. And the result of this is that those racists hidden in the shadow feel empowered to come out. This stuff, and all the increase in racial violence, is on the media and their incorrect portrayal of Trump as a racist.
Interesting how Republicans are responsible for everything that happens while Democrats only are responsible if direct specific proof can be establish, according to many in the media.
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This is mostly how I see it as well. When the media twists his comments around and characterized him as this racist bigot that hates Mexicans and women then you are going to see these types of people bubble up in support of him. Hillary and the MSM has possibly lead the best smear campaign in political history in my opinion.
 
Nilly said:
I too would dismiss this as a fringe group that has no real bearing on what the administration wants to do.

However, you simply can't ignore the fact that Trump has named Bannon - a man with clear ties to this group, a man who has admitted to providing a platform to the alt-right, a man who's website named Spencer as a leading intellectual and as dangerously bright - Chief Strategist in the White House.

An Establishment Conservative's Guide To The Alt-Right - Breitbart
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From your link:

Anything associated as closely with racism and bigotry as the alternative right will inevitably attract real racists and bigots. Calmer members of the alternative right refer darkly to these people as the “1488ers,” and for all their talk of there being “no enemies to the right,” it’s clear from the many conversations we’ve had with alt-righters that many would rather the 1488ers didn’t exist.
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Why “1488”? It’s a reference to two well-known Neo Nazi slogans, the first being the so-called 14 Words: “We Must Secure The Existence Of Our People And A Future For White Children.” The second part of the number, 88, is a reference to the 8th letter of the alphabet – H. Thus, “88” becomes “HH” which becomes “Heil Hitler.”
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shrubnose said:
I read the news every day but I missed that.Could you post a link please?
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How US meritocracy and racism helped Trump win - CNN.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...trump-won-new-hampshire-huffington-post-says/

CNN's Van Jones Perfectly Explains The Pain Of A Donald Trump Victory | The Huffington Post

Make no mistake - Donald Trump's victory represents a racist "whitelash"

Your question threw me since I thought that it was so obvious. But it was a little difficult to find stuff. Much of it is in social media, with people running to safe spaces and weeping about being subjected to racism, or Hamilton actors complaining about "We, sir, are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us". All this would indicate to me that if an alleged racist won then racists must have elected him. Hillary stated as much when she talked about Trump's "deplorables"-racists, homophobes, etc.
Europe hates Trump. Does it matter? - BBC News
 
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Nilly said:
I too would dismiss this as a fringe group that has no real bearing on what the administration wants to do.

However, you simply can't ignore the fact that Trump has named Bannon - a man with clear ties to this group, a man who has admitted to providing a platform to the alt-right, a man who's website named Spencer as a leading intellectual and as dangerously bright - Chief Strategist in the White House.

An Establishment Conservative's Guide To The Alt-Right - Breitbart
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I just can't be to bothered with yet another accusation of racism from the left. I can't think of any significant candidate or nominee lately that they don't throw the race card at. If the left is accusing Bannon of being a racist, big deal.
 
Kal'Stang said:
From your link:
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And Bannon has provided a platform for both.

Anyway, by their own admission they're closely associated with racism and bigotry?

"Anything associated as closely with racism and bigotry as the alternative right will inevitably attract real racists and bigots."

Sorry but you don't then get to cry when the nazi's show up because they empathize with your organization.

Again, I'm all for freedom of speech, I don't all that mind that 4chan and breitbart exist. Hell, I used to go on /pol/ a lot myself which is a breeding ground for those kind of people. People have a right to express their opinion no matter how deplorable it is, whether they be Nazi's, Klansmen, Black Panthers, whatever.

What I do mind, is that someone who is happy to provide a platform for these kinds of people is now our Chief Strategist.

Eric7216 said:
How US meritocracy and racism helped Trump win - CNN.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...trump-won-new-hampshire-huffington-post-says/

CNN's Van Jones Perfectly Explains The Pain Of A Donald Trump Victory | The Huffington Post

Make no mistake - Donald Trump's victory represents a racist "whitelash"

Your question threw me since I thought that it was so obvious. But it was a little difficult to find stuff. Much of it is in social media, with people running to safe spaces and weeping about being subjected to racism, or Hamilton actors complaining about "We, sir, are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us". All this would indicate to me that if an alleged racist won then racists must have elected him. Hillary stated as much when she talked about Trump's "deplorables"-racists, homophobes, etc.
Europe hates Trump. Does it matter? - BBC News
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So you're saying that by calling out racism when we see it (such as in the OP) we're somehow responsible for them?
 
Quell the fear. Our federal government remains replete with checks and balances. To the winners go the spoils. Team Trump with considerably less money spent per voter than their formidable opponents tapped into voter disenfranchisement and won the general election. Consider it a "wake up" not a catastrophe. Some on the left saw it coming. Michael Moore sure did. Another sign of 'a revolution in progress' came in late October when a jury found the Oregon stand off defendants not guilty. I consider Trump's choices of Bannon, Flynn and Sessions as consistent with the strategy Team Trump used to win the election. Keep in mind, we who did not support Trump still out number those who did. Depending on what Trump wants to do and who he wants in his Cabinet, we have potential allies in at least nine Republican Senators: Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Jeff Flake, Ben Sasse, Susan Collins, and Lisa Murkowski. Fear not, White Supremacists do not have an easy path to true power and we do not face a strong prospect of an impending WWIII. Instead, we have a chance to move past gridlock and truly progress as a nation.
 
Nilly said:
And Bannon has provided a platform for both.

Anyway, by their own admission they're closely associated with racism and bigotry?

"Anything associated as closely with racism and bigotry as the alternative right will inevitably attract real racists and bigots."

Sorry but you don't then get to cry when the nazi's show up because they empathize with your organization.

Again, I'm all for freedom of speech, I don't all that mind that 4chan and breitbart exist. Hell, I used to go on /pol/ a lot myself which is a breeding ground for those kind of people. People have a right to express their opinion no matter how deplorable it is, whether they be Nazi's, Klansmen, Black Panthers, whatever.

What I do mind, is that someone who is happy to provide a platform for these kinds of people is now our Chief Strategist.
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You actually touch on something here that should be addressed in another thread so I won't address this atm. Perhaps I'll make that thread later when I have time.

Nilly said:
So you're saying that by calling out racism when we see it (such as in the OP) we're somehow responsible for them?
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It's not the calling out racism that is the problem. It's calling out racism in such broad and generalized and exaggerated ways that is the problem. In each of those links that Eric provided the liberal media is attempting to explain/strongly imply that Trumps victory is solely the result of racism. I would bet that MAYBE 100,000 people that voted for Trump were actually racist. The rest that voted for him did so mainly on economic, SCOTUS seats, illegal immigration grounds, and a valid hatred/dislike of Hillary and the negative aspects of the liberal agenda. (and no, being opposed to illegal immigration has nothing to do with race despite the lefts rhetoric in that regard)

When you (general you) try to imply, or even state straight out, that the whole of one group is racist just because they voted for (or are willing to vote for) the person that you (again, general you) are against...there is going to be backlash. According to that Breitbart link shown earlier that is exactly what happened and how the Alt-Right came about.
 
Eric7216 said:
Unfortunate. Trump has stated that he will be President of all Americans and told all to stop this stuff but unfortunately the media played this election up as a victory of white racists. And the result of this is that those racists hidden in the shadow feel empowered to come out. This stuff, and all the increase in racial violence, is on the media and their incorrect portrayal of Trump as a racist.
Interesting how Republicans are responsible for everything that happens while Democrats only are responsible if direct specific proof can be establish, according to many in the media.
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Trump is responsible. He has empowered the racists. His campaign started with birtherism which was a racist ploy to discredit the first black President. His choice of Bannon also appeals to neo-nazi's and other deplorables. Calling Democrats responsible because they called out Trump on his racist statements is beyond stupid. It shows that you will rationalize even the most heinous attacks on our culture of tolerance. How long before you are giving the salute too?
 
Kal'Stang said:
You actually touch on something here that should be addressed in another thread so I won't address this atm. Perhaps I'll make that thread later when I have time.



It's not the calling out racism that is the problem. It's calling out racism in such broad and generalized and exaggerated ways that is the problem. In each of those links that Eric provided the liberal media is attempting to explain/strongly imply that Trumps victory is solely the result of racism. I would bet that MAYBE 100,000 people that voted for Trump were actually racist. The rest that voted for him did so mainly on economic, SCOTUS seats, illegal immigration grounds, and a valid hatred/dislike of Hillary and the negative aspects of the liberal agenda. (and no, being opposed to illegal immigration has nothing to do with race despite the lefts rhetoric in that regard)

When you (general you) try to imply, or even state straight out, that the whole of one group is racist just because they voted for (or are willing to vote for) the person that you (again, general you) are against...there is going to be backlash. According to that Breitbart link shown earlier that is exactly what happened and how the Alt-Right came about.
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The fact is that guilt by association is real and rationalizing will not fix it. You are part of the reason Trump will not call out these thugs and demand they stop their adulation of him. Your rationalizing of these fringe hate groups has given him immense power, something that is more dangerous than any President in our lifetimes. Do not underestimate the danger.
 
iguanaman said:
Trump is responsible. He has empowered the racists. His campaign started with birtherism which was a racist ploy to discredit the first black President. His choice of Bannon also appeals to neo-nazi's and other deplorables. Calling Democrats responsible because they called out Trump on his racist statements is beyond stupid. It shows that you will rationalize even the most heinous attacks on our culture of tolerance. How long before you are giving the salute too?
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1. I never wrote that Democrats were responsible. I wrote that media was responsible but I understand your confusion.
2. Give me a link to anything that Trump stated that is racist. I know that he said something about Mexicans and Muslims but those are not races. And hardly seem any worse than the Statue of Liberty talking about sending us "wretched refuse from your teeming shores".
3. Give me any link to anything racist about Bannon.
4. Trump specifically condemned any racism.

As a victim of Nazism your comments are highly offensive.
 
Eric7216 said:
1. I never wrote that Democrats were responsible. I wrote that media was responsible but I understand your confusion.
2. Give me a link to anything that Trump stated that is racist. I know that he said something about Mexicans and Muslims but those are not races. And hardly seem any worse than the Statue of Liberty talking about sending us "wretched refuse from your teeming shores".
3. Give me any link to anything racist about Bannon.
4. Trump specifically condemned any racism.

As a victim of Nazism your comments are highly offensive.
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He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents
He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”
The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people
He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him
He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States

Of course you know all these things but you rationalize them because you think Trump will help you. Now you know how the Germans allowed to get Hitler into power. It just takes someone who can make you feel important and empowered, the fact that it comes with a heavy price is immaterial.
 
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