San Francisco Teachers Union Offers Anti-Trump Lesson Plan [W:124]

OpportunityCost said:

I'm showing there is little difference between what he said and diversity. You are just too ignorant to even examine the issue to see it.

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Now you're getting someplace.

What do you think he said and what does it have to do with diversity?

ocean515 said:

I truly hope, once he is in office, President Trump follows through with his plans regarding sanctuary cities. California is a cancer that needs to radical treatment.

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But you live there. Oh wait, aren't y'all the State that has been trying to split in half for over 50 years. Couldn't get that accomplished? Pashaw

This came from a school in The Mission, in The City. As well as being one on the largest financial districts in the country, it's home to Haight and Ashbury streets. Not exactly Conservative. Those people should teach their students what they want to as well as Orange County should teach what they want to.

Capice?

d0gbreath said:

But you live there. Oh wait, aren't y'all the State that has been trying to split in half for over 50 years. Couldn't get that accomplished? Pashaw

This came from a school in The Mission, in The City. As well as being one on the largest financial districts in the country, it's home to Haight and Ashbury streets. Not exactly Conservative. Those people should teach their students what they want to as well as Orange County should teach what they want to.

Capice?

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NO.

This is a tax payer supported public school. Public School teachers should not be teaching lies to their students. If this were a private school, with ZERO taxpayer support, I wouldn't have a problem what parents wanted their children's minds polluted with. That will be their lifelong anchor to overcome.

Public School and Teachers? No lies, propaganda and brainwashing.

Private School and Teachers? Warp their minds to their hearts content.

Capice?

ocean515 said:

San Francisco Teachers Union Offers Anti-Trump Lesson Plan - ABC News

The union representing San Francisco's public school teachers has offered a classroom lesson plan that calls President-elect Donald Trump a racist and sexist man who became president "by pandering to a huge racist and sexist base."

The United Educators of San Francisco posted the plan on its website and distributed the plan via an email newsletter to its more than 6,000 members. The school district has more than 57,000 students.

It is unclear how many teachers have used the plan outlined by a Mission High School teacher, said union spokesman Matthew Hardy and school district spokeswoman Gentle Blythe on Wednesday.​

For those interested, here is the plan referenced in the ABC News article above

http://www.uesf.org/wp-content/uploads/nov2016-election-lesson-plan.pdf


So, if anyone wants to wonder where the "conditioning" comes from, where the ideas and emotional crisis is being fostered, you can start in our childrens classrooms.

Thoughts?

I know I have many..........

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The important take away from this is that Trump's plan to push a school choice voucher system can't happen soon enough. These idiots will learn a very painful lesson when they don't have a monopoly on our children anymore.

ocean515 said:

NO.

This is a tax payer supported public school. Public School teachers should not be teaching lies to their students. If this were a private school, with ZERO taxpayer support, I wouldn't have a problem what parents wanted their children's minds polluted with. That will be their lifelong anchor to overcome.

Public School and Teachers? No lies, propaganda and brainwashing.

Private School and Teachers? Warp their minds to their hearts content.

Capice?

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What you call lies can be proven. Trump was video recorded acting exactly like what they are saying about him.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Chevy Caprice?

jmotivator said:

The important take away from this is that Trump's plan to push a school choice voucher system can't happen soon enough. These idiots will learn a very painful lesson when they don't have a monopoly on our children anymore.

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I completely agree. I don't see how else the political agenda of the Progressives who have taken control of Public Education can be dealt with.

The students deserve an environment where STEM is the focus, not social engineering.

d0gbreath said:

What you call lies can be proven. Trump was video recorded acting exactly like what they are saying about him.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Chevy Caprice?

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Bull crap.

Out of context lies, fraud, and deceit does not form the basis of a lesson plan.

It's fine if adults want to be taken in by such efforts, but children are hands off to such propaganda.

ocean515 said:

What difference does that make? Did you not notice the lines above that? Are you going to tell everyone that not one single teacher adopted the plan?

They sent out 6,000 emails to their membership.

Please go right ahead and present that evidence.

Children should not be required to learn the lies, deceit and fabrication Hillary, her political machine, and her MSM partners invented about President Elect Trump.

Trump is none of the things the left invented.

I have no problem with intellectually vacant adults clinging to the lies they are trained to follow, but our children are hands off the BS propaganda.

Frankly, your response is ridiculous, given the nature of the report, which you chose to ignore and excuse.

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This is the problem with public schools, everyone is allowed a say in the curriculum. Parents who love their children don't subject them to public schools of indoctrination.

PirateMk1 said:

This is the problem with public schools, everyone is allowed a say in the curriculum. Parents who love their children don't subject them to public schools of indoctrination.

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I think for the most part, parents aren't aware of the indoctrination that is taking place in the children's classroom. That doesn't mean they don't love their children, it just means they are not as involved as they should be.

That is why I think it is important for efforts like the one exposed in the OP need to be made public. It's why the connection of the Teachers Union to radical political movements needs to be exposed.

The way to inoculate our public schools from this infection is to cut off the funding. As it is, public schools (at least in California) are paid based on student enrollment. Charter schools, with careful supervision of curriculum by parents, could be a way cut the public school funding, which may bring about the necessary reforms.

ocean515 said:

I think for the most part, parents aren't aware of the indoctrination that is taking place in the children's classroom. That doesn't mean they don't love their children, it just means they are not as involved as they should be.

That is why I think it is important for efforts like the one exposed in the OP need to be made public. It's why the connection of the Teachers Union to radical political movements needs to be exposed.

The way to inoculate our public schools from this infection is to cut off the funding. As it is, public schools (at least in California) are paid based on student enrollment. Charter schools, with careful supervision of curriculum by parents, could be a way cut the public school funding, which may bring about the necessary reforms.

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Public schools will ALWAYS have fights about curriculum. ALWAYS. Its an inherent flaw with them. You home school or send your children to a private school of your choice then the problem with inappropriate is greatly minimized to nonexistent. I went to a public school. My children will NEVER set foot in one for the purposes of education. I would advise this to any parent who wish to ensure their children get a superior education, which for the most part a public institution cannot provide.

ocean515 said:

I think for the most part, parents aren't aware of the indoctrination that is taking place in the children's classroom. That doesn't mean they don't love their children, it just means they are not as involved as they should be.

That is why I think it is important for efforts like the one exposed in the OP need to be made public. It's why the connection of the Teachers Union to radical political movements needs to be exposed.

The way to inoculate our public schools from this infection is to cut off the funding. As it is, public schools (at least in California) are paid based on student enrollment. Charter schools, with careful supervision of curriculum by parents, could be a way cut the public school funding, which may bring about the necessary reforms.

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Grab the money!

We have schools in Dallas that don't have money. Then you have to inoculate the infection that we call crime.

Beaudreaux said:

There is are federal laws against inciting insurrection, sedition, subversion, and rebellion.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115

Given the ties between the unions and the Democratic Party, this should be dealt with by the Justice Department.

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There's also the first amendment. I don't agree with what the teachers are doing, but your response is deeply troubling.

The first response of authoritarian governments, fascists, and dictators is to immediately arrest anyone who speaks out against the government. And then you don't want the government to deal with them, you want to also look into the DNC because.. idk... hatred?

Remember the Bundy standoff? Armed militants forcibly and illegally taking over government property, literally pointing assault weapons at government agents???? Did anyone say, hey, the justice department needs to investigate the RNC???? NO.

d0gbreath said:

Grab the money!

We have schools in Dallas that don't have money. Then you have to inoculate the infection that we call crime.

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Right.

So the point you're promoting is to allow public schools to teach propaganda unchallenged or else the children will be criminals.

Why are threats always used to force the agenda?

With the opportunity for parents to choose, public schools will either be forced to return to their original mandate, or close down. That will be on their backs, and I am hopeful they are forced to view that crossroad.

Children should not be force fed the politics of any adults, regardless of political ideology. Schools are for learning, not social engineering.

Mithros said:

There's also the first amendment. I don't agree with what the teachers are doing, but your response is deeply troubling.

The first response of authoritarian governments, fascists, and dictators is to immediately arrest anyone who speaks out against the government. And then you don't want the government to deal with them, you want to also look into the DNC because.. idk... hatred?

Remember the Bundy standoff? Armed militants forcibly and illegally taking over government property, literally pointing assault weapons at government agents???? Did anyone say, hey, the justice department needs to investigate the RNC???? NO.

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Yet Obama's administration did;

Raid Gibson
Go after 501c3 that opposed him
have his EPA crack down on private land owners with force.
Use the IRS to go after political opponents
etc...

All that was ok though right?

PirateMk1 said:

This is the problem with public schools, everyone is allowed a say in the curriculum. Parents who love their children don't subject them to public schools of indoctrination.

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Sure! Much better to have them indoctrinated in Private Schools where the corporations and other organizations that fund them can push their own agendas with no accountability or transparency.

Or even better... the parent can keep the child free from the taint of the outside world completely, simply by keeping them at home, sheltered from humanity, and with a worldview circumscribed by a single individual, with all of the limitations that entails.

ocean515 said:

Right.

So the point you're promoting is to allow public schools to teach propaganda unchallenged or else the children will be criminals.

Why are threats always used to force the agenda?

With the opportunity for parents to choose, public schools will either be forced to return to their original mandate, or close down. That will be on their backs, and I am hopeful they are forced to view that crossroad.

Children should not be force fed the politics of any adults, regardless of political ideology. Schools are for learning, not social engineering.

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You should move here and bitch about the Texas legislature rewriting our textbooks.

No threats, just facts. Schools without money have rather unruly classrooms. Every year they push another class of criminals into the streets.

You don't just want to get the SF teacher's union to change their lean. You want to punish them for it. Good luck on that one, haha!

You ever been to The City?

RickJames3000 said:

Sure! Much better to have them indoctrinated in Private Schools where the corporations and other organizations that fund them can push their own agendas with no accountability or transparency.

Or even better... the parent can keep the child free from the taint of the outside world completely, simply by keeping them at home, sheltered from humanity, and with a worldview circumscribed by a single individual, with all of the limitations that entails.

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The difference between public and private is this as a parent I choose the curriculum in a private setting I wish my child to have, whereas the public school curriculum is decided by whomever and I as a parent have no choice, and hence why they are inferior.

Side note homeschooling provides superior educational results, to public schools.

Mithros said:

There's also the first amendment. I don't agree with what the teachers are doing, but your response is deeply troubling.

The first response of authoritarian governments, fascists, and dictators is to immediately arrest anyone who speaks out against the government. And then you don't want the government to deal with them, you want to also look into the DNC because.. idk... hatred?

Remember the Bundy standoff? Armed militants forcibly and illegally taking over government property, literally pointing assault weapons at government agents???? Did anyone say, hey, the justice department needs to investigate the RNC???? NO.

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Little bit of an overreaction on your part.

First, the First Amendment doesn't protect speech meant to incite those hearing the speech to do harm to others.

Second, I didn't say to investigate the Democratic Party, I said that given the ties between the union and Democratic Party that it should be dealt with by the Justice Department. Meaning very simply, that a group which is trying to do harm through others could be a danger to our political system and given that group's close tie to one of our major political parties and therefore by inference that any investigation into this shouldn't be accomplished by Department of Education, nor the Department of Labor, nor the National Labor Relations Board, nor any other federal agency other than the Department of Justice.

Third... The Bundy's? You equated the anarchical nutjob Bundy family that has no power, to labor unions that have unquestionable control over major parts of the Democratic Party? Since when did the Bundy's finance political campaigns to the level of the unions, or that the Bundy family has hundreds of thousands of members across the country campaigning for Republicans like unions do for Democrats, or have they protested against sitting Governors and many, many other Democrats in government the way unions have against sitting Republican Governors and many, many other Republican government officials?

Seriously? The Bundy's?

Fourth, it is unquestionable that the union by it's own words and intended results of it's actions is using it's power to undermine the properly elected legitimate government of the United States of America by inciting rebellion and insurrection. Did you even read the law at the links I gave? I tend to not think you did. Please read the first link and then compare what it says to what the OP article says that the union is actually doing. Any fair reading of both cannot legitimately come to any other conclusion other than that they are related one to the other.

Fifth, the Bundy's? I know I've said that already, but I thought it important enough that it bears repeating.

Edit: I forgot to address your accusation that I would post such a thing out of hatred. No, it isn't hatred. It's patriotism and the oath I took decades ago to protect and defend the Constitution.

PirateMk1 said:

The difference between public and private is this as a parent I choose the curriculum in a private setting I wish my child to have, whereas the public school curriculum is decided by whomever and I as a parent have no choice, and hence why they are inferior.

Side note homeschooling provides superior educational results, to public schools.

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You don't choose a curriculum in a private setting. The organization that runs the school does. You can choose between curricula when you are comparing the options in your area, perhaps... but there is absolutely nothing ensuring that the promised curriculum will be delivered.

I was going to request a citation substantiating your "side note", but decided that it would be unfair to expect you to find something that simply doesn't exist.