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Trump Faces Growing Tension with Key Republicans Over National Security Issues

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Some Republicans are voicing concerns and opposition to the national security and foreign policy agenda of the new Trump Whitehouse:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1b2f40-ab2f-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html

President-elect Donald Trump, who clashed with leading Republicans throughout his campaign, faced growing tumult in his national security transition team on Monday as key members of his own party appeared to question his views and personnel choices.

Former congressman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), a respected voice on national security thought to be a leading candidate to run the CIA, was among those pushed out of the team over the past two days, two individuals with direct knowledge said, in a series of moves that have added to the anxiety across the upper ranks of U.S. intelligence agencies.
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Also on Tuesday, perhaps the most influential Republican on national security matters, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), weighed in on Trump’s efforts to work with Russian President Vladi*mir Putin, saying any efforts to “reset” relations with Russia are unacceptable.

McCain, the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman who had a difficult relationship with Trump during the campaign, issued a statement blasting Putin as “a former KGB agent who has plunged his country into tyranny, murdered his political opponents, invaded his neighbors, threatened America’s allies and attempted to undermine America’s elections.’’
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Sorry, McCain, but if you wanted to shape the Whitehouse, you should have beaten Barack Obama in 2008. Too many of these various naysayers on national security had come out against Trump during the election and endorsed Hillary. Now they're nervously biting their fingernails over what's going to happen to their precious agendas built up during the Obama years, when these agendas haven't delivered enough to American voters.
 
sanman said:
Some Republicans are voicing concerns and opposition to the national security and foreign policy agenda of the new Trump Whitehouse:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1b2f40-ab2f-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html



Sorry, McCain, but if you wanted to shape the Whitehouse, you should have beaten Barack Obama in 2008. Too many of these various naysayers on national security had come out against Trump during the election and endorsed Hillary. Now they're nervously biting their fingernails over what's going to happen to their precious agendas built up during the Obama years, when these agendas haven't delivered enough to American voters.
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They can go **** themselves.
 
reinoe said:
They can go **** themselves.
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Especially since it looks like large numbers of national security experts have decided to give the Nation the finger and refuse to work so long as we have Trump in charge.

Which might be a good thing with as crap as their work has long been, but the principle of the matter bothers me.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Especially since it looks like large numbers of national security experts have decided to give the Nation the finger and refuse to work so long as we have Trump in charge.
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Excellent. That will save a few bucks.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Especially since it looks like large numbers of national security experts have decided to give the Nation the finger and refuse to work so long as we have Trump in charge.

Which might be a good thing with as crap as their work has long been, but the principle of the matter bothers me.
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Based on the national security fiascos this country's endured over the last fifteen years or so, I'll take a finger from these experts over their advice any day. Actually, they have been giving us the finger--and the bill to go with it. Too bad we can't dig up The Three Stooges and put them in charge of national security. I'm certain they'd do a better job. Curly could be Director of National Intelligence, Larry National Security Advisor, and Moe Secretary of Defense. They'd get those Ayatollahs, Putin, and Kim Jong Un slapped into shape in no time. ;)

 
How refreshing to see the board's Trump-supporters demonstrate that they believe their opinions carry more weight than the qualifications of former national security advisers. I guess that's reflective of the man himself. I guess we should just be glad to have access to so many foreign policy armchair quarterbacks. That's surely a better strategy than letting the experts with the experience, education, and training handle it.

The reality is that the Trump team itself is so incompetent that they didn't even realize what the executive branch entailed. I guess it's not really fair to blame y'all.

Team Trump Struggling to Fill National-Security Jobs - The Daily Beast
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Especially since it looks like large numbers of national security experts have decided to give the Nation the finger and refuse to work so long as we have Trump in charge.

Which might be a good thing with as crap as their work has long been, but the principle of the matter bothers me.
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Oh for God's sake. Who are these assholes who care so much about their country they are giving us the finger after a lawful election? You are either spouting hyperbolic nonsense or these "experts" are traitors.

Name them. Show proof.
 
MaggieD said:
Oh for God's sake. Who are these assholes who care so much about their country they are giving us the finger after a lawful election? You are either spouting hyperbolic nonsense or these "experts" are traitors.

Name them. Show proof.
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Or they just don't want the Trump-stain on their resumes when 2020 rolls around.
 
MaggieD said:
Oh for God's sake. Who are these assholes who care so much about their country they are giving us the finger after a lawful election? You are either spouting hyperbolic nonsense or these "experts" are traitors.

Name them. Show proof.
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Intelligent folks who recognize Trump as the worthless moron that he really is.
 
SMTA said:
Intelligent folks who recognize Trump as the worthless moron that he really is.
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Why don't you keep your one liners to yourself and let the poster I was addressing backup his post?
 
MaggieD said:
Why don't you keep your one liners to yourself and let the poster I was addressing backup his post?
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Brevity in communication is best.

The truth always ruffles the feathers of closed minded people.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1066553303 said:
Remember, Hillary was an "expert" too.
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Good point. That's one of the many reasons she had my vote.
I'll be hoping, along with everyone else, that Trump finds some way to pull it together. There haven't been any signs so far that he (or his team) have any idea what to do now that they have "won". If his bumbling doesn't result in catastrophe, he will have exceeded my expectations for his presidency.
 
SMTA said:
Intelligent folks who recognize Trump as the worthless moron that he really is.
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Are these the same intelligent folks who've spent fifteen years, 2,292 American lives, and $1 trillion fighting an army of illiterate Pashtun tribesmen, with no end in sight?
 
It's one week after the election! Most the predictions the media/press said over the last year and a half about Trump were wrong.
Not a few times but most of their reporting was garbage! They are starting up where they left off
at the end of the campaign. They are going to flame and slime the transition team with the help of
the losing democrats and the #nevertrumpers.

President elect Trump has out smarted all the losers/talking heads from day one. They have a giant task to accomplish and there
will be bumps along the way but Trump built his companies on one thing success. The bumps will cause adjustments to be made
it's the normal course that will be taken. Screw the media and their doom and gloom reporting. They are doing for one reason.
And we know what that is.
 
The election is over folks and no reality is going to set in. Some here will whine on and on like a bunch of little girls every time trump does not get his way, but the fact of the matter is the GOP reps and leaders were not trump supporters and as such will not be his lapdog. I for one am glad to hear that Congress is planning on keeping trump on a short leash, if he has a good idea, back him and if he has a bad idea, stop him, works for me.
 
RickJames3000 said:
How refreshing to see the board's Trump-supporters demonstrate that they believe their opinions carry more weight than the qualifications of former national security advisers. I guess that's reflective of the man himself. I guess we should just be glad to have access to so many foreign policy armchair quarterbacks. That's surely a better strategy than letting the experts with the experience, education, and training handle it.

The reality is that the Trump team itself is so incompetent that they didn't even realize what the executive branch entailed. I guess it's not really fair to blame y'all.

Team Trump Struggling to Fill National-Security Jobs - The Daily Beast
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It's been a ****ing week, and you expected the jobs to be filled already. :roll: Not only that, some people didn't want to sign up for jobs, because they didn't think he would win. You have no credibility here.
 
Ahlevah said:
Are these the same intelligent folks who've spent fifteen years, 2,292 American lives, and $1 trillion fighting an army of illiterate Pashtun tribesmen, with no end in sight?
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And you think Trump and his team have better experience? Wow
 
American said:
It's been a ****ing week, and you expected the jobs to be filled already. :roll: Not only that, some people didn't want to sign up for jobs, because they didn't think he would win. You have no credibility here.
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Did you read the article?

"One person who met last month with Trump’s national security and homeland security transition team leader said that she confessed that many candidates had flatly rejected attempts to recruit them, believing that Trump was unfit to hold the office of commander in chief."

I don't know why'd you be spouting nonsense about "credibility" while simultaneously refusing to inform yourself. I understand that you are a camp-follower, but it can't hurt to do research and have something to substantiate your opinions.
 
Praxas said:
And you think Trump and his team have better experience? Wow
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Hillary had "experience" and her idea for a transitional government in Libya was to "play it by ear". This is the type of **** I've been railing against. What exactly makes these people "experts"? John McCain was a foreign policy "expert" and he didn't even know that there was no such thing as an Iraq/Pakistan border. George W. Bush "experts" insisted that Iraq was working with Al-Qaeda. You don't need "experts" whose only qualifications for the job is how much stock investments they have with military contracting companies.

Furthermore Obama eventually just had a gigantic want ad for government jobs. I remember because at first I thought it was ridiculous, but then I realized there are thousands of government appointments that have to be made and realized it's prudent. Good God. The people whining about Trump are worse than the people whining about Obama.
 
reinoe said:
They can go **** themselves.
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Exactly. Trump was elected as an anti-Establishment candidate... shouldn't we expect tension from the establishment?
 
RickJames3000 said:
Did you read the article?

"One person who met last month with Trump’s national security and homeland security transition team leader said that she confessed that many candidates had flatly rejected attempts to recruit them, believing that Trump was unfit to hold the office of commander in chief."

I don't know why'd you be spouting nonsense about "credibility" while simultaneously refusing to inform yourself. I understand that you are a camp-follower, but it can't hurt to do research and have something to substantiate your opinions.
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Now many are his friends. :lol: Everyone loves a winner.
 
sanman said:
Some Republicans are voicing concerns and opposition to the national security and foreign policy agenda of the new Trump Whitehouse:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1b2f40-ab2f-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html



Sorry, McCain, but if you wanted to shape the Whitehouse, you should have beaten Barack Obama in 2008. Too many of these various naysayers on national security had come out against Trump during the election and endorsed Hillary. Now they're nervously biting their fingernails over what's going to happen to their precious agendas built up during the Obama years, when these agendas haven't delivered enough to American voters.
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Oh there'll be national security leaks; you watch.
 
RickJames3000 said:
How refreshing to see the board's Trump-supporters demonstrate that they believe their opinions carry more weight than the qualifications of former national security advisers. I guess that's reflective of the man himself. I guess we should just be glad to have access to so many foreign policy armchair quarterbacks. That's surely a better strategy than letting the experts with the experience, education, and training handle it.

The reality is that the Trump team itself is so incompetent that they didn't even realize what the executive branch entailed. I guess it's not really fair to blame y'all.

Team Trump Struggling to Fill National-Security Jobs - The Daily Beast
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Lol !! NOW you people care about National Security ?

And Trumps been President elect for a week and the perennially butt hurt Hillary supporters have already declared his Presidency a failure.

Give the guy at least a few months, Ok ?
 
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