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Women consider long-term birth control now that Trump victory looms over reproductiv

minnie616

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Women who are thinking about long term birth control should see their doctor while insurance will still cover it with no co- pay. If the ACA is dismantled the out of pocket up front cost is about $800- $1,000.

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...Among those concerned were women who, worried about what the next four years could bode for reproductive health, pondered a lasting prophylactic measure. In the months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office, some advocates answered, consider long-term intrauterine devices or implanted contraceptive rods.

It was a concern echoed in headlines of Elle, Glamour, Jezebel, Vogue, New York magazine and others. Writer Sophia Benoit told the Intercept that some two dozen women took her up on a Twitter offer, posted just before midnight Nov. 8, to discuss intrauterine devices.

“I recommend the IUD right now especially because it’s long term, which with 20 million+ Americans potentially losing their health insurance and potentially right to an abortion, is important,” Benoit said.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...trump-victory-looms-over-reproductive-health/
 
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Yes, yes, people who want free stuff should get their free stuff while it's still free.
 
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Staying with your issue-centric mentality I see.

How about not wearing make-up as a form of birth control? Or abstaining if you can't afford a child?
 
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WCH said:
Staying with your issue-centric mentality I see.

How about not wearing make-up as a form of birth control? Or abstaining if you can't afford a child?
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How about married women like my daughter who wish to space her children but should not use be pills for medical reasons?
 
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Gonzo Rodeo said:
Yes, yes, people who want free stuff should get their free stuff while it's still free.
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It's not free. They pay for health insurance and the health insurance covers the cost with no co- pay.
 
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Gonzo Rodeo said:
Yes, yes, people who want free stuff should get their free stuff while it's still free.
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Health insurance isn't free.
 
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minnie616 said:
It's not free. They pay for health insurance and the health insurance covers the cost with no co- pay.
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Deuce said:
Health insurance isn't free.
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Without a copay, that means women not using it are paying for it, as well as men who can't even take it.

Are there any other special categories of copay-free treatments you can think of?
 
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minnie616 said:
It's not free. They pay for health insurance and the health insurance covers the cost with no co- pay.
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Thanks to the extravagant and unnecessary coverage mandated by the ACA.
 
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Deuce said:
Health insurance isn't free.
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It is if you're an illegal immigrant.
 
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minnie616 said:
How about married women like my daughter who wish to space her children but should not use be pills for medical reasons?
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My oldest told her husband no more sex until he got a vasectomy. It happened rather quickly.
 
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Gonzo Rodeo said:
Without a copay, that means women not using it are paying for it, as well as men who can't even take it.

Are there any other special categories of copay-free treatments you can think of?
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Without co- pay means the insurance is covering the cost.

Here are some preventive services for adults that are covered with no co-pay.
There are more.
Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm one-time screening for men of specified ages who have ever smoked
Alcohol Misuse screening and counseling
Aspirin use for men and women of certain ages
Blood Pressure screening for all adults
Cholesterol screening for adults of certain ages or at higher risk
Colorectal Cancer screening for adults over 50
Depression screening for adults
Type 2 Diabetes screening for adults with high blood pressure
Diet counseling for adults at higher risk for chronic disease

Obesity screening and counseling for all adults
Sexually Transmitted Infection (STI) prevention counseling for adults at higher risk

Syphilis screening for all adults at higher risk
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WCH said:
My oldest told her husband no more sex until he got a vasectomy. It happened rather quickly.
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That's fine when you do not want any more children. Not so great when just wanting to wait 3 or 4 years before having another child....perhaps you the part where I said spacing the children.
 
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minnie616 said:
Without co- pay means the insurance is covering the cost.

Here are some preventive services for adults that are covered with no co-pay.
There are more.
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You listed a bunch of screenings and one treatment - asprin, which is available over the counter and cheaper than dirt.

Can you think of any other copay-free treatments?
 
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minnie616 said:
That's fine when you do not want any more children. Not so great when just wanting to wait 3 or 4 years before having another child....perhaps you the part where I said spacing the children.
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I don't think you should space them.
 
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WCH said:
I don't think you should space them.
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That's your opinion. Doctors recommend spacing especially for certain types of medical conditions.
 
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minnie616 said:
Women who are thinking about long term birth control should see their doctor while insurance will still cover it with no co- pay. If the ACA is dismantled the out of pocket up front cost is about $800- $1,000.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...trump-victory-looms-over-reproductive-health/
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OMG -- whatever did women do before Obamacare? It must have been hell.
 
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Josie said:
OMG -- whatever did women do before Obamacare? It must have been hell.
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For a lot of girls/women it was.
My daughter had/has PCOS and endometriosis which stated when she was a preteen. She started her periods at age 10. She had irregular periods but very painful and very heavy when she had them. She had to have exploratory surgery at 13 years of age to find out what was casing her severe pain. That's when her GYN specialist discovered the endometriosis and the multiple cysts on her ovaries. She needed to go on a special birth control pills which ran over $70 a month and that was back in the 1990s.
The GYN said the PCOS was so bad if my daughter weren't so young she would recommend taking the ovaries out ...but she wanted to leave them there in case my daughter wanted to become a mom in the future.
 
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minnie616 said:
For a lot of girls/women it was.
My daughter had/has PCOS and endometriosis which stated when she was a preteen. She started her periods at age 10. She had irregular periods but very painful and very heavy when she had them. She had to have exploratory surgery at 13 years of age to find out what was casing her severe pain. That's when her GYN specialist discovered the endometriosis and the multiple cysts on her ovaries. She needed to go on a special birth control pills which ran over $70 a month and that was back in the 1990s.
The GYN said the PCOS was so bad if my daughter weren't so young she would recommend taking the ovaries out ...but she wanted to leave them there in case my daughter wanted to become a mom in the future.
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They don't care. You're trying to get a point across to people who don't really think anyone else exists except themselves and the people they know. We live in a fact free world now, or at best, a world where facts can be chosen or disregarded depending on what fits best.

Like the little bully who picks on other kids until the day comes when another kid punches him back, these people don't really believe bad things happen to other people until it happens to them. Would they just tell their own daughter or their own wife to just get their ovaries removed, or just keep having kids one after the other?

Of course not. They'd do exactly what you/your daughter did and they'd flip out at anyone who told them different. But because it's not them, it's not real.

I wish you the best. :)
 
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Opopanax said:
They don't care. You're trying to get a point across to people who don't really think anyone else exists except themselves and the people they know. We live in a fact free world now, or at best, a world where facts can be chosen or disregarded depending on what fits best.

Like the little bully who picks on other kids until the day comes when another kid punches him back, these people don't really believe bad things happen to other people until it happens to them. Would they just tell their own daughter or their own wife to just get their ovaries removed, or just keep having kids one after the other?

Of course not. They'd do exactly what you/your daughter did and they'd flip out at anyone who told them different. But because it's not them, it's not real.

I wish you the best. :)
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Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.
 
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Isn't keeping the number of unwanted pregnancies low in all of our best interests?
 
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Opopanax said:
They don't care. You're trying to get a point across to people who don't really think anyone else exists except themselves and the people they know. We live in a fact free world now, or at best, a world where facts can be chosen or disregarded depending on what fits best.

Like the little bully who picks on other kids until the day comes when another kid punches him back, these people don't really believe bad things happen to other people until it happens to them. Would they just tell their own daughter or their own wife to just get their ovaries removed, or just keep having kids one after the other?

Of course not. They'd do exactly what you/your daughter did and they'd flip out at anyone who told them different. But because it's not them, it's not real.

I wish you the best. :)
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That is disingenuous reading of the contrary points. To simplify what those of us against certain parts of the ACA are saying, there is an entitlement mentality embedded in programs that "give" people things, no matter how the costs of those things are actually spread out.

Birth control enjoys a unique position right now as a copay-free treatment, which is doubly weird when considering for the vast majority of women, birth control is an elective thing, which is to say it is not medically necessary like, say, insulin. Again, that's for most women - some do need it as a treatment for active symptoms of problems.

But do we think Obama hates diabetics because there is a copay for insulin? No, probably not. So why the special prominence of place for a specific women's issue?
 
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