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Fbi now releasing documents about bill clinton and marc rich[W:314]

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reinoe said:
If Comey wanted to influence this election he would have recommended charges against Hillary Clinton because she is obviously guilty.
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You're pretending to be obtuse, or at least I hope you're pretending. Comey wouldn't have to recommend charges in order for the authority behind his announcements to have catastrophic consequences for the election. Unless you're saying that you're only just now checking in on the internet and you've been on a beach since before Friday. If that's the case, then read the OP.
 
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Redbeard said:
Then had to go to L Lynch to secure warrants to read those emails as all they had was the megadata (headers).
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Lynch does not issue warrants, and I believe the word you want is metadata.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Lynch does not issue warrants, and I believe the word you want is metadata.
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You are correct Meta. Thank you.

It was my understanding he needed to consult her.
 
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Jack Hays said:
The article I posted does not include that information. As I said earlier, it doesn't matter. Here's an excerpt from my link at #16.

The claim that Comey’s actions violated a Justice Department policy is just wrong. There is no policy — and never has been — that the department avoid any action that could affect an election. Rather, the policy has been twofold. First, prosecutors should not take any action for partisan reasons, i.e., for the purpose of affecting an election. Second, where the timing of an otherwise bona fide investigative or prosecutive step could affect the outcome of an election, those actions should be deferred absent a strong public interest that justifies taking the action before the election. Sometimes this requires difficult judgments. Here, it did not. Indeed, if anything would have “violated” Justice Department policy, it would have been to remain mute and fail to correct the record.
Finally, it must be remembered that this whole situation could have been avoided if those in the Clinton camp had provided all pertinent information to the FBI to begin with. They were looking for early resolution of the matter, and it was in their interest to be as thorough as possible in supplying information to the government. Whether through an innocent oversight or not, they failed to do this. To the extent the timing of Comey’s correction of the record is difficult for Clinton, it is a self-inflicted wound.
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Again, spamming the thread with nonsense. Either read the OP or go away.
 
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If the documents relating to Marc Rich amount to nothing, then what's the problem?
 
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Cardinal said:
From the article:



Obviously, if you are just happy to see the Clintons (and most importantly Hillary Clinton specifically by implication) have the appearance of impropriety attached to them, then you're going to love this.

If you're an objective outsider, however, Comey's actions don't look kosher. In fact, as with Assange, Comey's actions of late look extremely personally motivated.
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Wait you consider yourself an objective outsider? That's laughable.
 
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Cardinal said:
First Comey publicly announces that the FBI is looking into more emails without establishing that any of them are significant or imply anything negative about Clinton herself. Now this, and seemingly apropos of nothing at all. It's time to consider the very real possibility that Comey is using the authority of his office to influence the election. And if Comey isn't breaking the Hatch Act (which I consider unlikely at this point), he certainly is probing the borders of it as closely as possible.
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No he didn't.
 
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reinoe said:
If Comey wanted to influence this election he would have recommended charges against Hillary Clinton because she is obviously guilty.
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What is she guilty of?
 
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Cardinal said:
Again, spamming the thread with nonsense. Either read the OP or go away.
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There is no information in the OP to answer your question either.
 
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If Comey and the FBI did have these emails weeks ago abd just now decided release the information along with waiting so long to release this FOIA rwquwst, then he should be investigated. It seems Comey is trying to use his office to help protect Clinton. He should of allowed It out so it could be gone over and inform voters of the potentially unethical or illegal dealings of Clinton.

Shame on him from trying to hide information critical of Clinton and how she and her staff routinely mishandled information they had access to.
 
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Chillfolks said:
If Comey and the FBI did have these emails weeks ago abd just now decided release the information along with waiting so long to release this FOIA rwquwst, then he should be investigated. It seems Comey is trying to use his office to help protect Clinton. He should of allowed It out so it could be gone over and inform voters of the potentially unethical or illegal dealings of Clinton.

Shame on him from trying to hide information critical of Clinton and how she and her staff routinely mishandled information they had access to.
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FBI agents found the documents weeks ago. They did not brief Comey until last week.
 
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Cardinal said:
Are you saying the the FBI received and responded to one FOIA request in the last year?
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The FBI defended its actions in a statement Tuesday evening.
"The FBI's Records Management Division receives thousands of FOIA requests annually which are processed on a first in, first out basis," the bureau said. "By law, FOIA materials that have been requested three or more times are posted electronically to the FBI's public reading room shortly after they are processed. Per the standard procedure for FOIA, these materials became available for release and were posted automatically and electronically to the FBI's public reading room in accordance with the law and established procedures."
The release was posted on Twitter by @FBIRecordsVault, an account that posts material from FOIA requests on subjects of public interest.
Prior to Sunday, the account hadn't tweeted since October 2015. A law enforcement official told CNN that the Twitter account is an automatic feed and the tweets are not done manually. The official said the feed was down for a year until Sunday, when it was fixed and then began tweeting automatically.
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FBI releases docs from 2001 Marc Rich probe days before election - CNNPolitics.com

In most circumstances a review of multiple articles on a given topic answers a lot of questions one might have if they only read one article.
 
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JumpinJack said:
The Post misses the point entirely. It seems that Comey MAY have sent the letter on the off chance that some emails one of his staff told him about MAY be relevant to the closed investigation...after he thought about it for several weeks.

The issue is not whether Comey should have notified Congress of a probe, the issue is the timing.

I've read that the FBI had those emails weeks ago.

I've read that Comey doesn't know if those emails are pertinent or significant to the closed investigation.

I've read that Comey may not have even read those emails himself.
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Looks like you've read a bunch of stuff heavy on speculation and light on facts. There is no "timing" issue as Hillary has been under investigation for a while. Maybe she should have not been so unethical and followed all the laws and regulations so this wouldn't have been an issue.
 
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Cardinal said:
Are you saying the the FBI received and responded to one FOIA request in the last year?
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Here is the web site for the vault. There have been a lot of responses to FOIAs in the last year from the FBI.
https://vault.fbi.gov/
 
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JumpinJack said:
The Post misses the point entirely. It seems that Comey MAY have sent the letter on the off chance that some emails one of his staff told him about MAY be relevant to the closed investigation...after he thought about it for several weeks.

The issue is not whether Comey should have notified Congress of a probe, the issue is the timing.

I've read that the FBI had those emails weeks ago.

I've read that Comey doesn't know if those emails are pertinent or significant to the closed investigation.

I've read that Comey may not have even read those emails himself.

So the letter he did was vague, and the timing is outrageous, IF he waited weeks before sending the letter and IF the emails aren't significant to the investigation. Are we talking about HRC intentionally sending Weiner classified information? (Ha...didn't happen) Or are we talking about her assistant merely mentioning HRC in an email to her husband?

If he did wait weeks, he has some 'splainin' to do. If he hadn't read the emails himself, he has some 'splainin' to do. If the emails aren't pertinent to the investigation, he has even more 'splainin' to do.

However, if he personally read the emails and determined they were relevant (the letter says they may not be pertinent or significant), and if he rec'd them the day before the letter, then I would agree that he did the right thing. As of this time, that does not seem to be the case.

On the flip side, why would he be investigating Trump and his team for connections with Russia and not send a CYA letter on THAT? How wrong it would be for Trump to be elected, only to find after the fact that Trump and his team were involved in Russia's cyberhacking of Americans.

Swords are supposed to cut both ways.
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Where have you "read" these things?
 
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Jack Fabulous said:
It was certainly presented that way in the Newsweek article.
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The Newsweek article was accurate. You can see the FBI vault twitter feed here. https://twitter.com/fbirecordsvault.

So based on this and the fact that Comey publicly announces the FBI is looking into more emails without establishing that any of them are significant or imply anything negative about Clinton herself, all just days prior to the election, does Comey's action seem odd to you?
 
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Cardinal said:
Read the article. As with the last announcement, nothing concrete, revelatory or even implicating has been released here.
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Then what's the problem?
 
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Seriously, what's the theory here?

That Comey intended to interfere with the election by posting documents revealing nothing of any relevance or interest?
 
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Jack Fabulous said:
Just saw a report about this.

According to the FBI, the release of these documents are in accordance with a FOIA request for the information.
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Sure, it was because of a FOIA request but we mustn't forget it also satisfied a FOWCHE request (Freedom Of Watching Carville's Head Explode).
 
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JumpinJack said:
On the flip side, why would he be investigating Trump and his team for connections with Russia and not send a CYA letter on THAT? How wrong it would be for Trump to be elected, only to find after the fact that Trump and his team were involved in Russia's cyberhacking of Americans.
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They already came out saying nothing is behind the Trump Russia conspiracy. Do you expect them to look at your conspiracy theory again for some reason?
 
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Cardinal said:
The Newsweek article was accurate. You can see the FBI vault twitter feed here. https://twitter.com/fbirecordsvault.

So based on this and the fact that Comey publicly announces the FBI is looking into more emails without establishing that any of them are significant or imply anything negative about Clinton herself, all just days prior to the election, does Comey's action seem odd to you?
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You are asking me to make a determination on the appropriateness of this release based solely on its characterization by a source that has already determined that it was not appropriate.

I'm going to need a little more than that.
 
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