DNC chair Donna Brazile passed a debate question to Hillary Clinton’s campaign in Mar

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

[FONT=&quot]Strong evidence has emerged to suggest that Democratic National Committee interim chair Donna Brazile passed a debate question to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign officials before a CNN town-hall forum in March.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Although it’s not clear how Brazile got ahold of the question in the first place, one plausible source is her former CNN colleague Roland Martin, who is now an anchor and reporter for News One. Martin was one of the moderators for that March town-hall event — and asked the question that Brazile apparently passed to the Clinton camp in advance.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Brazile has repeatedly denied obtaining questions in advance from CNN and has suggested that her leaked emails to Clinton campaign officials may have been forged or altered by Russian hackers. But she has not directly denied receiving questions from Martin or News One.

[/FONT]http://www.salon.com/2016/10/28/dnc-chair-donna-brazile-passed-a-debate-question-to-hillary-clintons-campaign-in-march-evidence-suggests/

We all remember that interview with Brazile by Megyn Kelly after the last debate where Brazile accuses Kelly of being worse than a "thief in the night" for asking her to explain this situation....Now, it is clear by the reporting of this obviously not right wing in any way outlet that SHE DID in fact do this....NOW what are you libs going to say about it?

TheDemSocialist · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
We all remember that interview with Brazile by Megyn Kelly after the last debate where Brazile accuses Kelly of being worse than a "thief in the night" for asking her to explain this situation....Now, it is clear by the reporting of this obviously not right wing in any way outlet that SHE DID in fact do this....NOW what are you libs going to say about it?

If found to be true she should step down from her position as interim chairperson of the Democratic National Committee

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

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TheDemSocialist said:
If found to be true she should step down from her position as interim chairperson of the Democratic National Committee

How many will you all have to go through this cycle before you find a non corrupted one....:lamo

TheDemSocialist · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
How many will you all have to go through this cycle before you find a non corrupted one....:lamo

Uh, what?

ocean515 · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
We all remember that interview with Brazile by Megyn Kelly after the last debate where Brazile accuses Kelly of being worse than a "thief in the night" for asking her to explain this situation....Now, it is clear by the reporting of this obviously not right wing in any way outlet that SHE DID in fact do this....NOW what are you libs going to say about it?

What I find remarkable for a Salon article was this statement that appeared farther down in the article:

DNC chair Donna Brazile passed a debate question to Hillary Clinton?s campaign in March, evidence suggests - Salon.com

Her claims have been further undermined by researchers who have used publicly available email verification tools to confirm that the WikiLeaks-sourced message is authentic

So, the WikiLeaks email has been verified as authentic using available tools.

But I thought they were all fraudulent and the result of Russia trying to manipulate a national election.

Puts a kink in the defend meme Hillary invented and sent out to the troops to dodge the revelations of deceit, fraud, and collusion documented in the emails.

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

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TheDemSocialist said:
Uh, what?

I wrote in English.....lol

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

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ocean515 said:
What I find remarkable for a Salon article was this statement that appeared farther down in the article:

DNC chair Donna Brazile passed a debate question to Hillary Clinton?s campaign in March, evidence suggests - Salon.com

Her claims have been further undermined by researchers who have used publicly available email verification tools to confirm that the WikiLeaks-sourced message is authentic

So, the WikiLeaks email has been verified as authentic using available tools.

But I thought they were all fraudulent and the result of Russia trying to manipulate a national election.

Puts a kink in the defend meme Hillary invented and sent out to the troops to dodge the revelations of deceit, fraud, and collusion illustrated in the emails.

YES! that is the money quote....Good catch.

nota bene · Oct 28, 2016

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According to the Salon article, "Brazile has repeatedly denied obtaining questions in advance from CNN and has suggested that her leaked emails to Clinton campaign officials may have been forged or altered by Russian hackers. But she has not directly denied receiving questions from Martin or News One."

So somebody needs to ask her.

ocean515 · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
YES! that is the money quote....Good catch.

A remarkable statement considering the source.

Why would an outlet connect to George Soro's and Company's Progressive Machine go to such lengths to confirm the legitimacy of WikiLeaks emails?

I'm guessing it has something to do with Sanders and the DNC's collusion with the Hillary Campaign.

TheDemSocialist · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
I wrote in English.....lol

Can you clarify this claim? "How many will you all have to go through this cycle before you find a non corrupted one...."

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

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TheDemSocialist said:
Can you clarify this claim? "How many will you all have to go through this cycle before you find a non corrupted one...."

Sure. Y'all fired DWS already, now her replacement is just as corrupt...delicious I tell ya.

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Surrealistik · Oct 28, 2016

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Related:

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

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Funny how we don't see the usual suspects jumping to Donna's defense.....

j-mac · Oct 28, 2016

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Surrealistik said:
Related:

She had that breathlessness sound of a liar when she was talking....delicious....

JumpinJack · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
We all remember that interview with Brazile by Megyn Kelly after the last debate where Brazile accuses Kelly of being worse than a "thief in the night" for asking her to explain this situation....Now, it is clear by the reporting of this obviously not right wing in any way outlet that SHE DID in fact do this....NOW what are you libs going to say about it?

As I've said before, the problem with unverified sources is that they're unverified. We don't have the emails to see them. We only have replicas of them on a site, that were put there by a partisan party, originating from probably a Russian source. One email, for example, supposedly criticizes Catholics by a person on Clinton's team. It turns out that the supposed author of that email is Catholic herself, so would not have sent such an email. I don't know, but assume, that a person can leave the headers and data for an email intact, but alter some of the words in the text of the email. Example (and I don't know if this would work):

j-mac said:
j-mac said:

We all remember that interview with Brazile by Megyn Kelly after the last debate where Brazile stated plainly and repeatedly that she didn't receive any of the questions for the town hall debate beforehand. Kelly said that she agreed; she knew personally that Ms. Brazile had not received any of the questions, so could not have passed them on to anyone.

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Note: The second quoted passage above is altered by me and is not the actual post. The first quote is the actual post.

cpwill · Oct 28, 2016

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JumpinJack said:
As I've said before, the problem with unverified sources is that they're unverified. We don't have the emails to see them. We only have replicas of them on a site, that were put there by a partisan party, originating from probably a Russian source. One email, for example, supposedly criticizes Catholics by a person on Clinton's team. It turns out that the supposed author of that email is Catholic herself, so would not have sent such an email.

Um. That person's participation in Catholic activities is discussed in the email - and if you think Catholics won't criticize their Church, I can only assume you don't know many of them.

Thus far, as far as I'm aware, not a single one of those emails has been demonstrated to be falsified, several independent security experts have verified that the ones they have seen have been untampered with, and no one has come forward (again, that I am aware) to argue that they didn't send the emails, or that they didn't write them the way they are presented.

Brazile sent the question.

cpwill · Oct 28, 2016

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j-mac said:
Sure. Y'all fired DWS already, now her replacement is just as corrupt...delicious I tell ya.

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JumpinJack · Oct 28, 2016

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cpwill said:
Um. That person's participation in Catholic activities is discussed in the email - and if you think Catholics won't criticize their Church, I can only assume you don't know many of them.

Thus far, as far as I'm aware, not a single one of those emails has been demonstrated to be falsified, several independent security experts have verified that the ones they have seen have been untampered with, and no one has come forward (again, that I am aware) to argue that they didn't send the emails, or that they didn't write them the way they are presented.

Brazile sent the question.

Not a single one of those emails has been demonstrated to be accurate and unedited.

When someone produces a supposed "document," it is up to the one producing the document to verify its authenticity.

The Catholic supposed author made a statement that she is Catholic and did not recognize the email. You obviously think she is lying. But it's up to the producer of the supposed email that it is that author's and is real and unedited. It is impossible to prove an email is false, if there is no email like that in the first place.

This is why we in the U.S., require the producer of a document to prove its legitimacy, and not the other way around.

I guess we could do it like in the old days: Require an accused person to prove she's not a witch, rather than the accuser have to prove she is.

Harshaw · Oct 28, 2016

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JumpinJack said:
Not a single one of those emails has been demonstrated to be accurate and unedited.

When someone produces a supposed "document," it is up to the one producing the document to verify its authenticity.

The Catholic supposed author made a statement that she is Catholic and did not recognize the email. You obviously think she is lying. But it's up to the producer of the supposed email that it is that author's and is real and unedited. It is impossible to prove an email is false, if there is no email like that in the first place.

This is why we in the U.S., require the producer of a document to prove its legitimacy, and not the other way around.

I guess we could do it like in the old days: Require an accused person to prove she's not a witch, rather than the accuser have to prove she is.

You're kind of mixing concepts there.

JumpinJack · Oct 28, 2016

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Harshaw said:
You're kind of mixing concepts there.

No, I'm not. We haven't seen the documents, and they have not been verified. They have merely been put on a site by someone who wants Trump to win, probably hacked by a Russian source (Putin wants Trump to win), so there is motivation to falsify records, if they can. No one has seen the originals. No one has verified them.

You believe them because you want to. That doesn't make them real. Maybe some are real and some are not.

But think about this happening to anyone other than HRC, to someone you like...this is a dangerous precedent to believe something a foreign unfriendly power puts on a website to interfere with an American presidential election. No true American would automatically believe such things, regardless of the content or who the supposed authors are.

This is why an accuser has the burden of proof, and the producer of a document has the burden of proof of its being real and unedited.

Here is Obama's Kenyan birth certificate:

This was passed around by Republicans in emails and forums. Everyone accepted it as real. But it's fake. It's pretty easy to fake a document. (There are several things that show it's fake. The person who did the false certificate was apparently stupid.)

Harshaw · Oct 28, 2016

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JumpinJack said:
No, I'm not. We haven't seen the documents, and they have not been verified. They have merely been put on a site by someone who wants Trump to win, probably hacked by a Russian source (Putin wants Trump to win), so there is motivation to falsify records, if they can. No one has seen the originals. No one has verified them.

You believe them because you want to. That doesn't make them real. Maybe some are real and some are not.

But think about this happening to anyone other than HRC, to someone you like...this is a dangerous precedent to believe something a foreign unfriendly power puts on a website to interfere with an American presidential election. No true American would automatically believe such things, regardless of the content or who the supposed authors are.

Where did I say I "believed" anything?

NeverTrump · Oct 29, 2016

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j-mac said:
We all remember that interview with Brazile by Megyn Kelly after the last debate where Brazile accuses Kelly of being worse than a "thief in the night" for asking her to explain this situation....Now, it is clear by the reporting of this obviously not right wing in any way outlet that SHE DID in fact do this....NOW what are you libs going to say about it?

I don't like this Brazile person one bit. She is a political hack of the worst kind. However, I wonder what the whole entire circumstances of this thing is and how people are portraying it. To me, it sounds like the Brazile only emailed the campaign a question that was used in a Town Hall debate in March. NOTE: This is not the Presidential debate. I am still trying to figure out if this is actually legal to do. The DNC and the campaign are allowed to collude with each other, if anything this is probably a grey area. A little bit worse than talking points from that the party suggests that the candidates use.

But the way this is being portrayed in various media outlets has people acting like the DNC gave Clinton all the answers to the questions as well as all the questions before each and every debate that she has ever participated in. Obviously, that's not true because her numbers are tanking! Even saying exactly what the DNC told her to, can't please the DNC??? Yeah it's not as big as people are making it out to be, but it's still an interesting look into out the DNC operates.

eohrnberger · Oct 29, 2016

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ocean515 said:
What I find remarkable for a Salon article was this statement that appeared farther down in the article:

DNC chair Donna Brazile passed a debate question to Hillary Clinton?s campaign in March, evidence suggests - Salon.com
Her claims have been further undermined by researchers who have used publicly available email verification tools to confirm that the WikiLeaks-sourced message is authentic

So, the WikiLeaks email has been verified as authentic using available tools.

But I thought they were all fraudulent and the result of Russia trying to manipulate a national election.

Puts a kink in the defend meme Hillary invented and sent out to the troops to dodge the revelations of deceit, fraud, and collusion documented in the emails.

It would appear to be further deceit to accuse the WikiLeaks emails as coming from a Russian state source.

Democrats Say WikiLeaks Is a Russian Front, U.S. Intelligence Isn’t So Sure

UPDATE
I left Julian after midnight. He is fit, well, sharp and in good spirits. WikiLeaks never reveals or comments upon its sources, but as I published before a fortnight ago, I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is not any Russian state actor or proxy that gave the Democratic National Committee and Podesta material to WikiLeaks. The claim is nonsense. Journalists are also publishing that these were obtained by “hacking” with no evidence that this was the method used to obtain them.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/arch...eally-upset-foreign-office-security-services/

Craig Murray is a personal friend of Julian.

eohrnberger · Oct 29, 2016

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JumpinJack said:
As I've said before, the problem with unverified sources is that they're unverified. We don't have the emails to see them. We only have replicas of them on a site, that were put there by a partisan party, originating from probably a Russian source. One email, for example, supposedly criticizes Catholics by a person on Clinton's team. It turns out that the supposed author of that email is Catholic herself, so would not have sent such an email. I don't know, but assume, that a person can leave the headers and data for an email intact, but alter some of the words in the text of the email. Example (and I don't know if this would work):

Note: The second quoted passage above is altered by me and is not the actual post. The first quote is the actual post.

Sorry Jack. The WikiLeaks emails aren't likely from a Russian state source.

Democrats Say WikiLeaks Is a Russian Front, U.S. Intelligence Isn’t So Sure

UPDATE
I left Julian after midnight. He is fit, well, sharp and in good spirits. WikiLeaks never reveals or comments upon its sources, but as I published before a fortnight ago, I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is not any Russian state actor or proxy that gave the Democratic National Committee and Podesta material to WikiLeaks. The claim is nonsense. Journalists are also publishing that these were obtained by “hacking” with no evidence that this was the method used to obtain them.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/arch...eally-upset-foreign-office-security-services/

Craig Murray is a personal friend of Julian.

ocean515 · Oct 29, 2016

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eohrnberger said:
It would appear to be further deceit to accuse the WikiLeaks emails as coming from a Russian state source.

Democrats Say WikiLeaks Is a Russian Front, U.S. Intelligence Isn’t So Sure

Craig Murray is a personal friend of Julian.

The thing that should cause penalty flags to be thrown was Hillary's full scale boogie during the final debate.

Out of the blue, after little to no comment for days, comes this massive "blame it on Russia" meme, with righteous indignation, and furious incredulity. From that obvious smoke filled room plan, the meme suddenly became Hillary's MSM byline.

It's so transparent it's shocking there are people going through their every day lives, yet completely unable, or unwilling, to admit it.

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