Republicans may be on verge of losing U.S. Senate majority: aides

TurtleDude said:

who knows but guess what-if the lying bitch wins the election, the GOP will gain a ton in 2018

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I'm thinking a complete GOP crash-and-burn could be the best thing that could happen to them. Let the Dems in, then when their programs fail... and they will... the GOP will emerge stronger (hopefully with new leadership) and dominate for several years.

Until they get too big for themselves, too, of course, which will eventually happen.

Mac77 said:

Parroting the virtues of Der Fuhrer or the Dear Leader is also a trait of a fascist cabal.

Even hitler had to throw a few journalists in jail where they were never seen again before the rest of the german media learned to do as they were told

In in America the fascists became journalists first and were waiting for obama when he decided to run of president

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It's a vice, not a virtue.

If we can take the training wheels off your bike, we have a wide variety of of journalists. Most of the ones with fascist leanings are on the Right, which you would expect. This is not because the Left is better, it's mostly because the Left has been suppressed for over a century, and that is ongoing.

To be frank, I doubt you understand fascism, or how to parse out the extent a source is fascistic.

Just another day in paradise..

late said:

It's a vice, not a virtue.

If we can take the training wheels off your bike, we have a wide variety of of journalists. Most of the ones with fascist leanings are on the Right, which you would expect. This is not because the Left is better, it's mostly because the Left has been suppressed for over a century, and that is ongoing.

To be frank, I doubt you understand fascism, or how to parse out the extent a source is fascistic.

Just another day in paradise..

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I have already summed up the state of liberal journalism in America which is modeled on fascist and marxist dictatorships and is little more than an auxillary of the democrat party.

Your personal snark directed at me has done nothing to refute thst

shrubnose said:

The Republican Party's two-year run in the majority of the U.S. Senate is at serious risk and may well end on Nov.8,senior congressional aides said on Wednesday,blaming Donald Trump as a drag on down-ballot Republican candidates.

With 13 days to go before elections,several Senate aides from both parties privately warned of trouble for Republicans.

Read the article here: Republicans may be on verge of losing U.S. Senate majority: aides | Reuters

Trump may cause the GOP to lose seats that it would have held with a different candidate.We'll have to wait and see how this turns out.

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We'll see. Maybe they will or maybe they won't. It is more likely that they will not.

shrubnose said:

Or lose a ton.It could go either way.It depends on what happens or doesn't happen.

We'll just have to wait and see.

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What if - just imagine it, Trump wins the Presidency and the house and senate remain in the control of the Republicans. I think it could happen!

Mac77 said:

I have already summed up the state of liberal journalism in America which is modeled on fascist and marxist dictatorships and is little more than an auxiliary of the democrat party.

You personal snark directed at me has done nothing to refute that.

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I can remember communism, and I visited a communist country once, Hungary.

I think I will upgrade my doubt and say that I don't think you are capable of parsing out the extent to which a source is anti-democratic.

But lets start with a little education. Nondemocratic countries have some things in common. Obviously the people are suppressed. But the first step in consolidating power is to kill off your political rivals. That also kills politics. So when Trump says he wants to jail Hillary, that's a common tactic for oligarchs kept in power through crony capitalism. Putin is an example of that, although he seems to be drifting towards totalitarian dictator. It says a lot about Trump that he likes the guy so much.

So... saying journalism is modeled on dictatorships is odd because after they kill of their political rivals, the second thing they do is suppress the press. No pravda in izvestia and no izestia in pravda, as the old joke goes (No truth in the news, and no news in the truth, Pravda and Izvestia were newspapers in the USSR).

Put simply, you are wrong.

shrubnose said:

Believe whatever you want to believe.

If the GOP runs more candidates like Trump it will get the same kind of results.

:lol:

That should be obvious to anyone whose brain is working.

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I'm not picking on you - I promise. But I have to point out something. The GOP picked Donald Trump because they wanted a change. And really, it isn't the old GOP making the pick this time around. It is the new GOP. People are discrediting what that new GOP looks like. It use to be the college only, somewhat wealthy to upper middle class white collar workers who were extremely conservative. What you have today in the GOP (the group that elected Trump as their nominee) are still educated some with college and others with a trade. They are still conservative but maybe not as narrow minded so they are tolerant of what others outside of their viewpoints see and feel. They are hard working middle and sometimes lower class Americans who know that nothing in life is free. They aren't afraid of capitalism because they aren't afraid to work hard and take risks. They don't want people to come here illegally but do appreciate and recognize the need for a diverse America. They want all education to be excellent and affordable but they don't feel that giving it away is the right thing to do. Things that are given to people end up becoming devalued. They are the previously Democratic voters who said "oh hell no to the lying corrupt Clintons." They are the people that will get off their butts and not only attend rallies to hear their candidate speak but they will also do more than just listen. They will vote. So, if you think the GOP has changed - you are correct. It has changed for the better and it is going to make the old Democrats and the old Republicans rethink their strategies.

America works best when it is reflective of the views of the majority. Most of us fall in the center of the line -I've said this over and over and even as a Democrat. It is time the far left and the far right start realizing this.

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late said:

I know you said it. And it was funny, but it's not something one can take seriously.

I can remember communism, and I visited a communist country once, Hungary.

I think I will upgrade my doubt and say that I don't think you are capable of parsing out the extent to which a source is anti-democratic.

But lets start with a little education. Nondemocratic countries have some things in common. Obviously the people are suppressed. But the first step in consolidating power is to kill off your political rivals. That also kills politics. So when Trump says he wants to jail Hillary, that's a common tactic for nontotalitarian rulers. Oligarchs kept in power through crony capitalism is a classic example, Putin is an example of that, although he seems to be drifting towards totalitarian dictator. It says a lot about Trump that he likes the guy so much.

So... saying journalism is modeled on dictatorships is odd because after they kill of their political rivals, the second thing they do is suppress the press. No pravda in izvestia and no izestia in pravda, as the old joke goes (No truth in the news, and no news in the truth, Pravda and Izvestia were newspapers in the USSR).

Put simply, you are wrong.

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The job of media in a dictatorship is to make the leader look good.

And since the regime is incompetent that means keeping the public ignorant

Thats how obama got elected and how obamacare was passed.

And its working just as well for hillary who enjoys the coordination of 65 major media journalists according to the wiki leaks emails.

Mac77 said:

Thats how Obama got elected, and how Obamacare was passed.

And its working just as well for Hillary who enjoys the coordination of 65 major media journalists according to the wikkileaks emails.

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You exaggerate a lot.

But that's fine, you proved my point, so I'm good.

Henrin said:

How many people still listen to the radio? Oh right, not that many. Where is the younger population going to get news? Oh right, the internet. Controlling messaging is the most important element of politics. Winning elections and getting things done comes second.

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So the Internet is now controlled by the left?

Henrin said:

How many people still listen to the radio? Oh right, not that many. Where is the younger population going to get news? Oh right, the internet. Controlling messaging is the most important element of politics. Winning elections and getting things done comes second.

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It's not about controlling the message. It's about having a message people like. You sound like an authoritarian madman.

poweRob said:

It's not about controlling the message. It's about having a message people like. You sound like an authoritarian madman.

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It is about controlling the message. You need to make it clear to people your message is noble and the other persons party is evil. You need to do this in such a way that it seems like they personally benefit or that they personally feel good about themselves because of it. It is best if you message is built on a prior messages of basic morality and general outlook on life of course. That message however must be controlled first or any message that follows will be harder to convince.

Mac77 said:

I have to give liberals credit for taking over the education system and through it the mainstrem media.

Removing leftists from their positions of dominance in the liberal academic puppy mills - aka university journalism schools - would be very difficult now.

But I agree that conservatives have to try

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Good god. Just because schools teach science instead of the earth being 6000 years old that means science, math and English are all just a part of a gigantic liberal conspiracy.

Henrin said:

It is about controlling the message. You need to make it clear to people your message is noble and the other persons party is evil. You need to do this in such a way that it seems like they personally benefit or that they personally feel good about themselves because of it. It is best if you message is built on a prior messages of basic morality and general outlook on life of course. That message however must be controlled first or any message that follows will be harder to convince.

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Not to express that you disagree with someone but rather to demonize those you agree with as being evil. Your view on this is all that is wrong in America and American politics.

poweRob said:

Not to express that you disagree with someone but rather to demonize those you agree with as being evil. Your view on this is all that is wrong in America and American politics.

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Training people to think a certain way is something societies have always done either with intent or by simply going about their life as they were. We can shape and reshape how people think, how they approach each other, and how they go about their life. The people that go out of their way to do these things are the movers and will reach their goals, while the people that try to avoid it or don't know how to play the game correctly will lose.

radcen said:

I'm thinking a complete GOP crash-and-burn could be the best thing that could happen to them. Let the Dems in, then when their programs fail... and they will... the GOP will emerge stronger (hopefully with new leadership) and dominate for several years.

Until they get too big for themselves, too, of course, which will eventually happen.

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that might make a smidgen of sense but for the fact that federal judges will be around for two decades later

Henrin said:

Training people to think a certain way is something societies have always done either with intent or by simply going about their life as they were. We can shape and reshape how people think, how they approach each other, and how they go about their life. The people that go out of their way to do these things are the movers and will reach their goals, while the people that try to avoid it or don't know how to play the game correctly will lose.

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The more subtle the control the better it is. In US foreign policy the major US media sources have nearly always fallen in line. Removing from the public face those that disagree. The run up to the Iraq war was a prime example, when the former day time talk show host was removed from MSNBC for being against it.

Domestically there is far from the same type of control. The major media outlets are all owned by massive companies with one prime focus of making money. Ideology comes at most second

late said:

That's Fascism trait 11: Disdain for intellectuals and arts.

Keep up the good work, I had no idea this website was for comedy.

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Those who push the decadent dependency of the creeping crud of collectivism are not truly intellectuals. Rather they are pawns for the nanny state.

Chomsky said:

Before we say goodbye to the GOP Senate, I think we should pause to reflect upon its accomplishments.

It will be an extremely short pause ...

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Well, they passed an actual budget, which is something Reid never let them do, for four long years.

TurtleDude said:

that might make a smidgen of sense but for the fact that federal judges will be around for two decades later

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Meh. Crap seems to roll downhill for forever... through countless administrations and both parties. In hindsight I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference.

poweRob said:

Good god. Just because schools teach science instead of the earth being 6000 years old that means science, math and English are all just a part of a gigantic liberal conspiracy.

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He specifically mentions journalism schools, and you bring up young-Earth-creationism? Maybe some remedial English is in order.

Harshaw said:

Well, they passed an actual budget, which is something Reid never let them do, for four long years.

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Alright, fair point.

It was done to look good in a political year, but it got done none-the-less - so good enough.

Chomsky said:

It was done to look good in a political year

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Are you saying that if it weren't a "political year" (whatever that means), they wouldn't have passed a budget?

Harshaw said:

Are you saying that if it weren't a "political year" (whatever that means), they wouldn't have passed a budget?

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Yes, most likely.

And definitely not as straightforwardly.

poweRob said:

Good god. Just because schools teach science instead of the earth being 6000 years old that means science, math and English are all just a part of a gigantic liberal conspiracy.

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Many journalists know nothing about science or math

They are journalists because if you learn to recite the liberal party dogma you dont have to know anything else.