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I'm not at all surprised my point was missed.
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You are right about the planned parenthood clinic who murdered people, specifically prenatal and even postnatal babies.
According to international plan parenthood federation {IPPF), just last year alone plan parenthood slaughterhouses had slaughtered 964,325 prenatal human babies including some born alive. Imaging the great number of murders they committed worldwide over the decades when abortion became legalized and still going without any end in sight.
So, tell me, who are the terrorists here? The ones who try to save innocent babies' lives or the ones who murder them day in and day out?
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There is no such thing as Christian domestic terrorism because Christian Bible doesn't teach Christ's followers to go out to slaughter, behead and kidnap innocent unbelievers in the name of Yahweh or Jesus simply for unbelief and conquer their lands with violent bloodshed until all religion is for Yahweh. But, followers of islam do according to the doctrine and teaching of the quran and ahadith which they follow.
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Uh, I think you forgot the /sarcasm tag. (Cause some people might seriously agree with that.)
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Yes, cultural Christians who don't follow the teaching of Jesus have done that. On the other hand muslims who devoutly follow the quranic injunction and command of allah will do exactly that: violence against infidels as demanded by allah and mohammed.
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You are purposely wrong, of course.
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From the link:
"According to an affidavit, the were a part of a group called the Kansas Security Force and the Crusaders.
'These are militia groups whose members support and espouse sovereign citizen, anti-government, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant extremist beliefs,' read the affidavit.
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Of course if these men were muslims we won't be hearing about their names for a while unless we do some google digging from non-media sources. Also, the authority would not be so quick to issue an affidavit to identify the islamic affiliation no matter how often the jihadists told us about the religious motive. All we ever heard were that the motives were unclear, nothing to do with islam, islam is a religion of peace and they are still searching for the motive or what causes them to commit terrorism.
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This is the reality of what we are facing, folks. These men who had enough of the islamic violence coming from the muslims and muslim refugees who our country take them in, provide them with safe haven, accommodation and unearned welfare benefit only to be repaid with hostile ingratitude and violence against our defenseless citizens. This is a reactive response to the constant threat of terrorism from the adherents of islam which our govt are dead set to import them en mass. We ain't see nothing yet, the worst is yet to come. This is actually the agenda of the NWO global elites who pull the strings of western govt. And of course, the blame is always upon the non-muslim western infidels who speak out about the truth. Just look at what's happening in Europe:
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Finally!...right??...lol
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I hope they get locked up for a good long time.
That said, this is a outlier. Most terror attacks are by Muslims. Since 911, the only massive one I can think of from a Honky is Brevik in Norway. The remainder... around the world... from The Religion of Peace.
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LOL, this must be a joke right? Rumsfeld quoting Joshua 1:9 that says "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest" and this is cruelty and violence?
Really?
About the Book of Joshua in the OT, you're just confused without any understanding. This is so because you aren't a Christian who pray for God's Holy Spirit for guidance and understanding of His Word.
In Joshua 1:18, the death sentence for the Israelite armies disobeying Joshua, who was the chief commander, is a military code applicable only to the Israelites of the epoch in time when they were involved in wars. It didn't apply to non-Israelite inhabitants of other surrounding tribes living in the region. In the U.S. we also have death penalty code for the military involving desertion or disobeying a superior commissioned officer's orders:
The U.S. Military Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center
I'm pretty sure all other nations have such death penalty in their military codes for in times of war.
As to Joshua 3:7, you are wrong. Unlike mohammed who conquered every tribe and every land that he and his companions came upon, the Biblical God did not command Joshua to "drive out all the inhabitants of the lands through which they passed" as you falsely claimed. In Deut 2:3-9 and 18-22 God specifically warned the Israelites not to disturb the inhabitants of the lands through which they passed that weren't marked for destruction or given to their possession.
This is what the LORD said:
Deut 2:3-9
3 Ye have compassed this mountain long enough: turn you northward.
4 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:
5 Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.
6 Ye shall buy meat of them for money, that ye may eat; and ye shall also buy water of them for money, that ye may drink.
7 For the Lord thy God hath blessed thee in all the works of thy hand: he knoweth thy walking through this great wilderness: these forty years the Lord thy God hath been with thee; thou hast lacked nothing.
8 And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Eziongaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab.
9 And the Lord said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.
4 And command thou the people, saying, Ye are to pass through the coast of your brethren the children of Esau, which dwell in Seir; and they shall be afraid of you: take ye good heed unto yourselves therefore:
5 Meddle not with them; for I will not give you of their land, no, not so much as a foot breadth; because I have given mount Seir unto Esau for a possession.
6 Ye shall buy meat of them for money, that ye may eat; and ye shall also buy water of them for money, that ye may drink.
7 For the Lord thy God hath blessed thee in all the works of thy hand: he knoweth thy walking through this great wilderness: these forty years the Lord thy God hath been with thee; thou hast lacked nothing.
8 And when we passed by from our brethren the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, through the way of the plain from Elath, and from Eziongaber, we turned and passed by the way of the wilderness of Moab.
9 And the Lord said unto me, Distress not the Moabites, neither contend with them in battle: for I will not give thee of their land for a possession; because I have given Ar unto the children of Lot for a possession.
Deut 2:18-22
18 Thou art to pass over through Ar, the coast of Moab, this day:
19 And when thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession.
20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
21 A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the Lord destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:
22 As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day:
19 And when thou comest nigh over against the children of Ammon, distress them not, nor meddle with them: for I will not give thee of the land of the children of Ammon any possession; because I have given it unto the children of Lot for a possession.
20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
21 A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the Lord destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:
22 As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day:
Unlike the allah of islam, mohammed and his followers, who were commanded to slaughter, rape, loot and conquer every infidel lands, from the middle east to North Africa, part of Europe, Persia, Central Asia and India, not because of their wickedness, but because of their unbelief until all religion is for allah, the Biblical God only commands the Israelites to destroy the wicked giant tribe in Canaan and only Canaan. They weren't told to slaughter, rape and loot their way through the whole world to force people to submit to Mosaic laws or their religion.
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If you genuinely read the bulk of the whole Bible with an unbias mind you will find that the Biblical God is a God of justice, righteousness and mercy. Though some parts of the OT that may touch on events that seemingly are description of cruelty and violence that confound a reader, there are reasons behind them can be understood if you read the Bible with the guidance of the Holy Spirit when you pray for it as Christian.
"Ask, and it shall be given you" (Matt 7:7)
Of course no one is able to fully understand what's in God's mind, whose ways are not our ways, but reading through the Bible we know that the Biblical God is reasonable and righteous. Therefore, given that God is omnipotent and omnipresent, we trust God that He knows what evil lies ahead of us and our posterity in the far future if the present evil is not completely destroyed as He commanded the Israelites. Case in point, the evil isis and other violent islamic jihadi groups raping and shedding innocent blood in the most violent and cruel ways imaginable in middle east right now. These could be the spawn from the seeds of the devil from ancient times that weren't exterminated. Thus leading to present woes.
So now we're having to deal with the evil at every moment globally. If we had nipped them in the bud at the early stage of isis formation or better yet did away with the fundamental islamic ideology after WWI & WWII when islam was basically defanged to almost subdued to its weakest moment while the west was at its epic strength, the world would be much better off now.
Now, let's go back to the Book of Joshua. The reason God commanded Joshua to exterminate the Amorites is because they were wicked giants from the seeds of the Nephilim as mentioned in Gen 6:4-5.
This is what the LORD said:
Gen 6:4-5
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
The Amorites weren't the only tribe that were described as giants. The Bible recounted others like the Anakims, the Emims, the Horims, etc.
Numbers 13:33 described the size of these giants:
"And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight."
The word "giants" here in Hebrew נְּפִלִים Nĕphiliym (H5303) is the same word used in Gen 6:4 for Nephilim. The remnant of the giants as described in the Book of Deuteronomy is called רְפָאִים repha'ym. It's the same word used in Gen 15:20 "Rephaims", which refers to the gigantic stature of the inhabitants.
In Deut 3:11 the Og King of Bashan is described as follows:
"For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man."
Therefore these are giants or remnants of giants as the Bible described them. They were wicked tribes that commit every imaginable evil continually. In Canaan they sacrificed infants as burnt offerings to their pagan deities, among them was the moon god known as Sin. And we know that the allah of islam is actually a pagan moon god before mohammed hijacked it and the pagan kabaah, together with its pagan rituals, as his own and repackage it as islam. That's why the islamic allah requires massacre of human sacrifice before taking a captive for ransom. To wit, sura 8:67:
"It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. "
So, the evil the ancient Israelites failed to destroy completely as per God's command ultimately comes back to haunt us globally with the islamic terrorism and the NWO of the elites from the secret society just as their forebears had ultimately destroyed the ancient Israelites..
However, God was going to judge the Amorites of their wickedness long before Moses was even born and long before the Israelites had even existed. When God promised Abraham of the promised land, He told him exactly just that. This is what God said:
Gen 15:16
"But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full."
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Unlike the quran that dehumanizes us infidels or Jews and Christians simply for unbelief or disbelief in accepting mohammed's islamic doctrine, calling us "vilest of animals" (sura 8:55) and "worst of creatures" (sura 98:6) for not buying his snake oil message, while at the same time praising the muslims as "the best of peoples, evolved for mankind" (sura 3:110), the Bible, however, gave the reason why the Amorites and other giant tribes in Cannaan were to be exterminated:
Deut 9:4-6
4 Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the Lord thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the Lord hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord doth drive them out from before thee.
5 Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
6 Understand therefore, that the Lord thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.
5 Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
6 Understand therefore, that the Lord thy God giveth thee not this good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.
So, it was for their wickedness that God judged the gaint tribes of Canaanites and not because of their unbelief in the God of the Israelites or for their refusal to submit to the Israelites' way of life under the Levitical laws. Neither was it done because of the righteousness of the Israelites.
I can't go into every bit of your points from the Bible because it's getting too lengthy to the point of boring people to death. But, here is a link where I had previous address some of the issues relating to the OT here:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/relig...nalty-blasphemy-prophet-3.html#post1066410318
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1.6 billion Muslims in the world (thats more than the population of the west) and yet an overwhelming number of them are peaceful. Seems to be no different than other religions in the world.
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Ohhhh so there exists a threshold under which pillaging, raping, and slaughtering is okay! Lemme jog your memory for a bit as to what you are condoning by those words:
The Brick Testament
"21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. 22 But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot's house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her. 23 And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel. 24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD." Joshua 6:21-24
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I'm just waiting to see the Trump bumper stickers on their cars....it is pretty certain that Trump lost 3 votes. He is really having a bad week.
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This silly unsubstaintiated broad mantra is getting ancient already. Many of these so-called "1.6 billion Muslims in the world" live in the hell holes of the islamic enclaves of the M.E. and other thrid world islamic lands. If you're a minority non-muslims living in Pakistan or other islamic countries, you won't be regurgitating and singing the silly islamic mantra when you life is always at the hands of the muslim majority. If you have some disagreement or if they covet your property, they can easily come up with a trumped-up charges, like blasphemy, against you and your whole infidel village will be attacked and burnt down. As long as you stay quiet, obey, don't build your house of worship and submit like a dhimmie that you are supposed to be then everything would peaceful. But, there's no guarantee. You know, your infidel life and property will always be at risk whenever some dude across the globe decided to draw a mohammed cartoon or burn a quran. The a sea of "peaceful" mobs will come for a "peaceful" visit at your infidel land.
Yeah sure, no difference than the religion of buddhism, hinduism, etc.
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Where's the raping? These were wicked race of people of the Nephilim and Rephaim stocks. It's funny that you take issue with Judeo-Christian God destroying evil from this earth but you've no qualm whatsoever with the savage violence committed by isis and other islamic jihadi groups against innocent men, women and children.
Have you ever seen videos of isis beheading a Christian family of men, women and even little children? They posted these bloody videos, including pictures of their proud handy works. I've seen a picture of a headless toddler girl in a skirt dress lying a feet away from her headless mother in a family room and videos of severed heads and disemboweled headless bodies laying around against the walls in rows or hanging on beams. They also engage in trading human organs and cannibalism.
And it's not just the muslim adults doing these, they also taught their children to behead and kill in a savage way with glee and sanctimoniously howling "allahu akhbar" like a bunch of hyenas. Young or old the women aren't pasive either. They destroyed the whole Christian and Yazidi towns where the people still retain the ancient language and tradition, not harming anyone or doing wicked things but simply minding their own business. Many of the towns were of antiquity. They tortured, slaughtered, burnt, crucified and behead the men simply because they were infidels who refused to convert to islam. They raped the women in front of their families and auction them off to the highest bidders. Words cannot describe the extent of evil and horror these islamic jihadists committed upon innocent people, many from outside the region.These islamic jihadists even brutally torture and slaughtered their own in a heinous way if they're suspected of changing their minds on participating in their jihad.
Even the shia, thought to be relatively benign as compared to its sunni cousins, can also sink down to the bottomless pit of barbarity. Just few days ago a video surfaced that shows a bunch of shia jihadists, whom President Obama and Hillary Clinton are supporting, brutally disemboweling a captured sunni muslim, yanked out his heart and liver for a cannibalistic ritual around the corpse like a bunch of starving hyenas. It's gory. I won't post the link as it violates the forum policy but you can google it if you're interested.
Such is the unimaginable evil they are engaging in continually in accords with their islamic indoctrination. But of course you'd be crying foul if we were to utterly destroy them from the face of the earth to save innocent men, women and children from this scourge.
So, to summarize it for you, the Book of Joshua is a biblical narrative of ancient events involving the Israelites and the wicked tribes of Canaan who had gone extinct eons ago. The Canaanites were destroyed not because of their unbelief but because of their unimaginable evil continually just as we have seen in the unimaginable evil isis, boko haram and other islamic jihadis are committing day in and day continually in the M.E., Egypt, Africa, Asia, Southeast Asia, Australia, Europe and America.
The command to kill is only restricted to that time period and only involves the Israelites and a small designated groups of giants who did evil to the full measure. The ancient Israelites and the Canaanites were long gone. They are ancient history. No believers of the Bible in modern times have ever invoked the Bible to kidnap, loot, torture, rape, torture, mass slaughter, or behead other people for any reason let alone unbelief. They certainly don't go out searching for the wicked Amorites or other wicked giants of Canaan since these people were long extinct.
The converse is not true for islam. In islam, the players are not extinct in history. The infidels are always here and so also are the muslims since the 7th century. Likewise the endless conflict.
Most importantly, the commands from allah in the quran are open ended commands that must be followed at all times by all muslims. They are good for all time and space as long as there are muslims and there are infidels, i.e. unbelievers.
Fact is, islam is only religion that divides the world into two camps: the dar al-islam and the dar al-harb. Dar al-islam is the house of islam or peace. Dar al-harb is the house or territory of war and chaos where the infidels reside. As long as there is Dar al-harb, muslims must cause war and chaos in the infidel lands until all religion is for allah. Since the inception of islam in the 7th century, there is always believers of islam, i.e. muslims and non-believers of islam, i.e. infidels throughout the ages up to this date and going. Throughout the history of islam, muslims have been at war with infidels on and off for almost 1,400 years from the dawn o islam.
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They used to be third world countries when the violence of islam reared its head there long before 9/11. Now, they are not much better either, except Singapore. But thanks for taking the time to read.
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You can just stop right there.
I am starting to wonder whether you have even read your own Bible. I don't mean cherry-picked a few verses in the way you like. I mean actually read the damn thing. Because if you had, you would discover verses such as these:
"And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods." Numbers 31:8-9
Oh wait, it gets better:
"And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." v. 15-18
Any question as to whether Moses was outright telling his soldiers to rape the captured girls--not women, girls--is put to rest here.