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FBI, DOJ roiled by Comey, Lynch decision to let Clinton slide by on emails, says insi

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Napoleon said:
No. In a nutshell, the FBI investigated and found no applicable crime to charge her with.
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that is why he spent a half hour or so laying out all the evidence they had against her.:lamo
there was plenty to charge her with.
 
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Anthony60 said:
You'd have to have blinders on to come to that conclusion. The entire point is that they had plenty to charge her with a crime, and just said no at the very end, wasting all the hard work by the agents and hurting the integrity of the agency.
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as I said liberals will give any excuse they can think of to give a pass to these people.
just look at rangel. the entire house of democrats came to his defense over his blatant
tax issue and everything else.

if I would have pulled what he pulled I would have been in jail. same goes for Clinton.
 
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Napoleon said:
Why? Because he stole top-secret material.
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By bringing it home. Same thing Hillary did. Only difference is that his were actually more secure because papers can't get hacked.
 
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ludin said:
as I said liberals will give any excuse they can think of to give a pass to these people.
just look at rangel. the entire house of democrats came to his defense over his blatant
tax issue and everything else.

if I would have pulled what he pulled I would have been in jail. same goes for Clinton.
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When the voters decide to let people like Clinton and Rangel commit crimes and send a clear signal that they will look the other way and still vote for them, what do you get? You don't get quality people in office, you get low life law breakers that know they can get away with anything.
 
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ludin said:
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/st...secuted-officer-shouldnt-discharged/86797536/

what about his guy? he sent 1 email because coms wouldn't work through his private email warning a base of a possible attack. probably saved a ton of lies and is now
being prosecuted for sending classified data through a private email server.

LOL the very same thing that Clinton did. only instead of hundreds and thousands of emails it was 1.
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The article you provided doesn't mention anything regarding prosecution. Instead:

Brezler has filed a lawsuit in a U.S. district court challenging a board of inquiry’s December 2013 recommendation that he be discharged for sending the email from his personal account and taking classified documents back home from Afghanistan so he could write a book. The Marine Corps has agreed not to discharge Brezler until October while his lawsuit moves forward. The federal judge in the case has vowed to hear arguments by then.
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Furthermore:

Rachel VanLandingham, who teaches at Southwestern Law School in Los Angeles, called Bowe’s argument “a nice Hail Mary pass,” but added that she feels the issues in the two cases are vastly different. The FBI was looking into whether Clinton had committed criminal wrongdoing, whereas the board of inquiry’s recommendation was an administrative action, she said.

Boards of inquiry make their decisions based on a preponderance of evidence, while the burden of proof for convicting someone of committing a federal crime is beyond a reasonable doubt, VanLandingham said. That means it is easier to administratively discharge a service member than it is to successfully prosecute someone in federal court, she said.
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Looks like you provided a hail mary pass on your own. Did you even read the article you so desperately put forth? :lol:
 
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Kal'Stang said:
By bringing it home. Same thing Hillary did. Only difference is that his were actually more secure because papers can't get hacked.
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You are reaching, and pretty far i might add. Cars can get stolen, windows broken, which is far more likely than a server getting hacked. Mr. Robot is a television series... it takes more effort and carelessness for a server to be hacked than you are willing to admit.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
1: The FBI does NOT get to interpret or re-interpret ANY law. Their job is to enforce the law. Nothing more. Nothing less.

2: NSA contractor accused of taking classified information Say again? Comey stated that the law requires "malicious intent" for this case to be tried. Tell me Napoleon, this guy in the article claims he had no intent to give the classified information that he had to anyone and he loves his country and would not do anything to harm it. Why is HE being charged? Going by Comey's statement he should never have been arrested. Much less facing a trial. And yet.....
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Yeah, that is the 800 pound Gorilla in the room. The FBI chose to not recommend indictment because they felt that the action, while it clearly violated the law, would not result in a conviction because of legal precedent (that Comey invented from whole cloth). That isn't the job of the FBI.
 
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Kushinator said:
You are reaching, and pretty far i might add. Cars can get stolen, windows broken, which is far more likely than a server getting hacked. Mr. Robot is a television series... it takes more effort and carelessness for a server to be hacked than you are willing to admit.
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You have no clue, obviously, about IT security, so stop pretending like you do.
 
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jmotivator said:
Yeah, that is the 800 pound Gorilla in the room. The FBI chose to not recommend indictment because they felt that the action, while it clearly violated the law, would not result in a conviction because of legal precedent (that Comey invented from whole cloth). That isn't the job of the FBI.
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IMO an elephant is too small for this particular instance. It's more like the sun sitting right in your living room instance.
 
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jmotivator said:
You have no clue, obviously, about IT security, so stop pretending like you do.
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Great response!
 
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Kushinator said:
Great response!
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You still know nothing about IT security, and your attempted analogy is still stupid as a result.
 
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Kushinator said:
You are reaching, and pretty far i might add. Cars can get stolen, windows broken, which is far more likely than a server getting hacked. Mr. Robot is a television series... it takes more effort and carelessness for a server to be hacked than you are willing to admit.
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Half of American adults hacked this year

Hackers have exposed the personal information of 110 million Americans -- roughly half of the nation's adults -- in the last 12 months alone.

That massive number, tallied for CNNMoney by Ponemon Institute researchers, is made even more mind-boggling by the amount of hacked accounts: up to 432 million.
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90% of companies say they've been hacked: Survey

In a recent survey (download PDF) of 583 U.S companies conducted by Ponemon Research on behalf of Juniper Networks, 90% of the respondents said their organizations' computers had been breached at least once by hackers over the past 12 months.

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The Ponemon survey comes at a time of growing concern about the ability of companies to fend off sophisticated cyberattacks. Over the past several months, hackers have broken into numerous supposedly secure organizations, such as security vendor RSA, Lockheed Martin, Oak Ridge National Laboratories and the International Monetary Fund.
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PREETTTY sure that you can combine cars getting stolen and windows being broken and STILL not come close to how often hacks have been made. In other words I don't think you realize just how often things get hacked in this computer age.
 
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Kushinator said:
The article you provided doesn't mention anything regarding prosecution. Instead:
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Actually it does if you would have read the article but well you don't read and only read what you want.
Yes Clinton did the same thing. She kept classified data at home.

Looks like you provided a hail mary pass on your own. Did you even read the article you so desperately put forth? :lol:
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yep I read the article you evidently didn't, or as usual only read what you wanted.

There is no difference in what they did. yet one is being punished and the other isn't.

equal protection under the law applies.
 
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Kushinator said:
You are reaching, and pretty far i might add. Cars can get stolen, windows broken, which is far more likely than a server getting hacked. Mr. Robot is a television series... it takes more effort and carelessness for a server to be hacked than you are willing to admit.
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the irony of this post is lost on y ou.

Umm no it isn't. No it doesn't take more effort.
The amount of effort it takes is based on the security of the server.

The fact is that the Clintons home server was not very secure.
 
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Kushinator said:
You are reaching, and pretty far i might add. Cars can get stolen, windows broken, which is far more likely than a server getting hacked. Mr. Robot is a television series... it takes more effort and carelessness for a server to be hacked than you are willing to admit.
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Way too broad of a statement.

Whose server it is may well have something to do with the likelihood of it getting hacked. Though I am a techno illiterate, I imagine that many people interested in hacking into Hillary's private server have enough resources to mount a very concentrated effort. This level of resources may, to a large extent, negate the careless requirement.
 
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jmotivator said:
You still know nothing about IT security, and your attempted analogy is still stupid as a result.
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Look i get it, you and your team is in full fledged desperation mode. Sure, anything is possible, but the claim was that physical data was more secure in a vehicle. That's simply not true.

In the end, it doesn't matter. HRC has this election locked up... not because she is the best candidate for POTUS, but because she isn't Donald Trump. You know, the asshat who won the GOP primary.

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Cryptic said:
Way to broad of a statement.

Whose server it is may well have something to do with the likelihood of it getting hacked. Though I am a techno illiterate, I imagine that many people interested in hacking into Hillary's private server have enough resources to mount a very concentrated effort against it. This level of resources may, to a large extent, negate the careless requirement.
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Absolutely! There are reports that those who received emails from her were compromised. My point was that a person taking physical documents outside of a controlled environment poses a type of security risk that far exceeds that of online intrusion. That person could have given them to anyone, and there would be no evidence to the contrary.

It works both ways.
 
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Cryptic said:
Way to broad of a statement.

Whose server it is may well have something to do with the likelihood of it getting hacked. Though I am a techno illiterate, I imagine that many people interested in hacking into Hillary's private server have enough resources to mount a very concentrated effort against it. This level of resources may, to a large extent, negate the careless requirement.
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You are smarter than Kushinator. Every intelligence agency worth a damn already is listening in on any known TCP/IP streams going in and out of the homes of foreign leaders. All such sniffers also know the signatures of widely used applications, to allow them to accurately target whatever that target is using on the internet.

I can only imagine the laughter throughout the foreign intelligence services when they realized there was an Exchange server in the Clinton home that was open to the internet.

The only viable and dependable security for a secure network is simple air-gap security, which is what SIPR and higher classified networks use as the first line of defense.
 
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ludin said:
Actually it does if you would have read the article but well you don't read and only read what you want.
Yes Clinton did the same thing. She kept classified data at home.

yep I read the article you evidently didn't, or as usual only read what you wanted.

There is no difference in what they did. yet one is being punished and the other isn't.

equal protection under the law applies.
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First off, Kal'Stang claimed the guy was being prosecuted. Secondly, he took stuff home from Afghanistan to write a book.
 
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Anthony60 said:
FBI, DOJ roiled by Comey, Lynch decision to let Clinton slide by on emails, says insider | Fox News

FBI, DOJ roiled by Comey, Lynch decision to let Clinton slide by on emails, says insider

“Basically, James Comey hijacked the DOJ’s role by saying ‘no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case,’” the Fox News source said. “The FBI does not decide who to prosecute and when, that is the sole province of a prosecutor -- that never happens.

“I know zero prosecutors in the DOJ’s National Security Division who would not have taken the case to a grand jury,” the source added. “One was never even convened.”

What a stain this is on the FBI and our country. This is banana republic crap, it has no place in our country.
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Of course a Grand Jury wasn't convened... you don't bring a case to a Grand Jury just as a 'let's see if it sticks' at least not ideally. You bring a case to the Grand Jury when you think that there is reason for a criminal indictment. Which a full battery of elite attorneys at the Justice Department didn't think was reasonable. I'll take that over anonymous whining aired at Fox News.
 
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ludin said:
The fact is that the Clintons home server was not very secure.
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This is true. However, taking documentation on your person is not very secure either. Which is my point... you guys are just so desperate now.
 
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Kushinator said:
Absolutely! There are reports that those who received emails from her were compromised. My point was that a person taking physical documents outside of a controlled environment poses a type of security risk that far exceeds that of online intrusion. That person could have given them to anyone, and there would be no evidence to the contrary.

It works both ways.
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FALSE! Good grief, give it up already. If every person with access to classified data ALSO had foreign intelligence agents at their homes 24/7/365 trying to break in -- or more likely already in their homes rifling through their drawers and filing cabinets -- then your analogy would make sense, but it's not and you are making yourself look stupid in the process.
 
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Kushinator said:
First off, Kal'Stang claimed the guy was being prosecuted. Secondly, he took stuff home from Afghanistan to write a book.
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it doesn't matter why he took it home or do you not understand that?
the law doesn't say anything about well you are only guilty if you take it home to write a book.

it says not keeping it in a secure location. your home email server is not a secure location.
 
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jmotivator said:
FALSE! Good grief, give it up already. If every person with access to classified data ALSO had foreign intelligence agents at their homes 24/7/365 trying to break, or more likely already in their homes rifling through their drawers and filing cabinets then your analogy would make sense, but it's not and you are making yourself look stupid in the process.
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I am sure that high ranking officials do have access but it is through secure router/vpn networks that make it virtually impossible to get into.
they do not run private emails servers that are not setup that way but instead go through public networks.
 
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Kushinator said:
Look i get it, you and your team is in full fledged desperation mode. Sure, anything is possible, but the claim was that physical data was more secure in a vehicle. That's simply not true.

In the end, it doesn't matter. HRC has this election locked up... not because she is the best candidate for POTUS, but because she isn't Donald Trump. You know, the asshat who won the GOP primary.

:lol:
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Nope, I just have decades of experience in a field that you obviously know nothing about. Your attempt to defend your position with wholly ignorant analogies only make you look stupid.
 
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