Donald Trump: 'The shackles have been taken off me***'[W:85]***

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Quag said:

Trump won the nomination because too many republicans decided it would be better to send a message to the party that they were unhappy than to win the white house.

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This. And look what it got them.

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Dragonfly said:

So if you say you hate McDonalds, but you keep going to McDonalds and eating their food, you think that's the best way to get McDonalds to change?

By the way - The GOP is every bit "a party of elite scumbags".
They are, in every way, no different than the Dems.

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Well, as I have said, then I don't want to hear any of you complain when Hillary continues our decline to irretrievable levels...You had your chance, and chose to narcissistic superiority, over defeating socialistic take over.

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Praxas said:

you guys picked Trump so you have only yourselves to blame. I don't care to hear a single peep out of you period for that.

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"You guys" who? It really makes me wonder if you people read anything at all....I voted Cruz in my primary....I thought that Trump was a joke candidate....But, he is the party's nominee like it or not....The choice is out there....Not a great one, but a clear one for sure.

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j-mac said:

Well, as I have said, then I don't want to hear any of you complain when Hillary continues our decline to irretrievable levels...You had your chance, and chose to narcissistic superiority, over defeating socialistic take over.

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No, you can blame the idiots that voted in Trump as your nominee. Maybe if Trump supporters didn't nominate such an egotistical, misogynist, sexual assault bragging idiot, Republicans might have actually won the election. that's all on Trump supporters.

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j-mac said:

"You guys" who? It really makes me wonder if you people read anything at all....I voted Cruz in my primary....I thought that Trump was a joke candidate....But, he is the party's nominee like it or not....The choice is out there....Not a great one, but a clear one for sure.

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And you backed an idiot horse, that's on you.

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j-mac said:

Well, as I have said, then I don't want to hear any of you complain when Hillary continues our decline to irretrievable levels...You had your chance, and chose to narcissistic superiority, over defeating socialistic take over.

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I haven't, and won't pick Hillary or Donald.

AND - I didn't pick either in the primaries. I am not a registered D or R.

It's not MY fault at all.

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Objective Voice said:

Please explain that portion in bold.

How exactly are moderate Republicans and Progressive/Liberal Democrats destroying this country?

I ask because I keep reading and/or hearing that from Conservative Republicans without the evidence.

Last I checked you're still free to:

- Go wherever you want without the need to show your validation papers at state border crossings.
- Buy what you want (certain restrictions apply, of course, i.e., bomb making material or certain weapons)
- Say what you want (short of yelling "FIRE" in a crowded room or threatening the life of someone particularly the POTUS; that will always get you in trouble no matter which side of the political isle you're on).
- Cast your vote in all local, state and federal elections as long as you meet eligibility requirements (i.e., age, citizenship).
- Participate in or learn any trade of your desire.
- Participate in the free market system either as a consumer or a capitalist (investor).
- Volunteer to serve your country either in its Armed Services or some other form of public service.
- Go from rags to riches virtually overnight depending on how dedicate you are to your dream and how much work you put towards achieving same.

The United States of America is still the richest, freest and most democratic country on the planet. How exactly is it being degraded or destroyed from within?

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Ok, so in your eyes there won't be a problem until you see a Stalinist Communist state take hold? I've got news for you, by then it would be too late....The decline of society never comes in a full swoop, but rather baby bites, until one day you wake up, and those things that you tick off there are in place....

Do we have the chance to save from going down that road? I believe at this point, yes, but barely.

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Praxas said:

No, you can blame the idiots that voted in Trump as your nominee. Maybe if Trump supporters didn't nominate such an egotistical, misogynist, sexual assault bragging idiot, Republicans might have actually won the election. that's all on Trump supporters.

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And you backed an idiot horse, that's on you.

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Dragonfly said:

I haven't, and won't pick Hillary or Donald.

AND - I didn't pick either in the primaries. I am not a registered D or R.

It's not MY fault at all.

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*sigh* I can't believe what this election has become....In many ways we have become a nation of spoiled brats throwing temper tantrums over not getting the candidate WE want in place, so we are kicking over the game board and stomping out....It is childish....Did, those who were pissed off at the current state of the government, and voted for Trump because he provided the "middle finger vote" doom the country? Did, they bring us to the point where the country faces losing our constitutional moray's and ruling by EO on everything?

There are some simple questions that every voter should ask themselves on the issues, not the circus....

1. Do I think that the current direction of the country is going in the right direction? I think the answer on that is NO, and 69% of Americans agree with me.

2. Do I think that Hillary Clinton will bring change, or status quo, or worse? I think she will bring worse....

3. Is Hillary Clinton corrupt? Hell YES.

4. Will the demo candidate do any better on any of the real issues facing our country? I think not.

5. Do any of the other candidates have any chance at all of affecting the election other than swinging a plurality in one direction or another? NO, and I'll make this as clear as I can....A VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE 3RD PARTY CANDIDATES OR NO VOTE AT ALL IS A VOTE TAKEN AWAY FROM DEFEATING A LYING CORRUPT CRIMINAL IN HILLARY CLINTON.

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j-mac said:

*sigh* I can't believe what this election has become....In many ways we have become a nation of spoiled brats throwing temper tantrums over not getting the candidate WE want in place, so we are kicking over the game board and stomping out....It is childish....Did, those who were pissed off at the current state of the government, and voted for Trump because he provided the "middle finger vote" doom the country? Did, they bring us to the point where the country faces losing our constitutional moray's and ruling by EO on everything?

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The ones kicking over the game board are those supporting Trump.

There are some simple questions that every voter should ask themselves on the issues, not the circus....

1. Do I think that the current direction of the country is going in the right direction? I think the answer on that is NO, and 69% of Americans agree with me.

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And Hillary will take it into a better direction than Trump will. BTW 69% of the population doesn't mean that 69% think Trump will take us into the right direction.

2. Do I think that Hillary Clinton will bring change, or status quo, or worse? I think she will bring worse....

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You're opinion.

3. Is Hillary Clinton corrupt? Hell YES.

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both Trump and Hillary are corrupt, honesty isn't on the table this election.

4. Will the demo candidate do any better on any of the real issues facing our country? I think not.

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Well I think they will and given the polling so do many others. So much in fact that not only the presidency will remain Dem but Congress might turn all Dem as well.

5. Do any of the other candidates have any chance at all of affecting the election other than swinging a plurality in one direction or another? NO, and I'll make this as clear as I can....A VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE 3RD PARTY CANDIDATES OR NO VOTE AT ALL IS A VOTE TAKEN AWAY FROM DEFEATING A LYING CORRUPT CRIMINAL IN HILLARY CLINTON.

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Trump has lied throughout this election cycle and his complete and lack of respect for women proves to me he is not qualified to be president. Over 50% of the U.S. population is female and a president that disrespects women in such a pattern as Trump has does not deserve the office of the presidency. He has proven he has ZIP foreign policy expreience and proven more than once that his ideas would be DANGEROUS. A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE TO DESTROY THE U.S. (See, I can do all caps too)

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Praxas said:

The ones kicking over the game board are those supporting Trump.



And Hillary will take it into a better direction than Trump will. BTW 69% of the population doesn't mean that 69% think Trump will take us into the right direction.



You're opinion.



both Trump and Hillary are corrupt, honesty isn't on the table this election.



Well I think they will and given the polling so do many others. So much in fact that not only the presidency will remain Dem but Congress might turn all Dem as well.



Trump has lied throughout this election cycle and his complete and lack of respect for women proves to me he is not qualified to be president. Over 50% of the U.S. population is female and a president that disrespects women in such a pattern as Trump has does not deserve the office of the presidency. He has proven he has ZIP foreign policy expreience and proven more than once that his ideas would be DANGEROUS. A VOTE FOR TRUMP IS A VOTE TO DESTROY THE U.S. (See, I can do all caps too)

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Well, you have already shown that as an "Independent" You'd never vote for ANY republican....So, what's the difference?

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j-mac said:

Well, you have already shown that as an "Independent" You'd never vote for ANY republican....So, what's the difference?

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I would have voted for Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich over Hillary so nice try there. Do you always get like this when you are losing?

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Praxas said:

I would have voted for Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich over Hillary so nice try there. Do you always get like this when you are losing?

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Get like what? Point out where you may be misled? And "losing" will be determined in Nov. Not now.....

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j-mac said:

*sigh* I can't believe what this election has become....In many ways we have become a nation of spoiled brats throwing temper tantrums over not getting the candidate WE want in place, so we are kicking over the game board and stomping out....It is childish....Did, those who were pissed off at the current state of the government, and voted for Trump because he provided the "middle finger vote" doom the country? Did, they bring us to the point where the country faces losing our constitutional moray's and ruling by EO on everything?

There are some simple questions that every voter should ask themselves on the issues, not the circus....

1. Do I think that the current direction of the country is going in the right direction? I think the answer on that is NO, and 69% of Americans agree with me.

2. Do I think that Hillary Clinton will bring change, or status quo, or worse? I think she will bring worse....

3. Is Hillary Clinton corrupt? Hell YES.

4. Will the demo candidate do any better on any of the real issues facing our country? I think not.

5. Do any of the other candidates have any chance at all of affecting the election other than swinging a plurality in one direction or another? NO, and I'll make this as clear as I can....A VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE 3RD PARTY CANDIDATES OR NO VOTE AT ALL IS A VOTE TAKEN AWAY FROM DEFEATING A LYING CORRUPT CRIMINAL IN HILLARY CLINTON.

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Don't sigh....you're just as much a part of the problem as anyone.

The majority of people in American have "not liked the direction of the country" for decades now.
Yet the (vast) stupid majority keep repeating the same mistakes every election cycle. They keep voting for the incumbents.

You think putting an R into something is going to change it. It won't. The R's and the D's are the problem. Not the solution.

Continually electing R's and D's is the definition of insanity.

Every single thing you stated about what Hillary might do, or how it might effect the nation can just as easily be said about Donald. In fact it IS being said about Donald.

People stopped voting for the person they like ages ago. Every election I can think of going back into the 80's has been about the lessor of two evils.
You still end of with "evil" no matter what.

Voting R or voting D still gets you evil. No different that taking a pneumatic nail gun and choosing between nailing your right foot to the ground or your left foot. Either way it'll hurt like hell, and force you to walk in circles getting nowhere.

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Dragonfly said:

Don't sigh....you're just as much a part of the problem as anyone.

The majority of people in American have "not liked the direction of the country" for decades now.
Yet the (vast) stupid majority keep repeating the same mistakes every election cycle. They keep voting for the incumbents.

You think putting an R into something is going to change it. It won't. The R's and the D's are the problem. Not the solution.

Continually electing R's and D's is the definition of insanity.

Every single thing you stated about what Hillary might do, or how it might effect the nation can just as easily be said about Donald. In fact it IS being said about Donald.

People stopped voting for the person they like ages ago. Every election I can think of going back into the 80's has been about the lessor of two evils.
You still end of with "evil" no matter what.

Voting R or voting D still gets you evil. No different that taking a pneumatic nail gun and choosing between nailing your right foot to the ground or your left foot. Either way it'll hurt like hell, and force you to walk in circles getting nowhere.

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Yeah? Well, I voted for Perot in 1992 look where that got me....It put Slick Willie in office....So, until you 3rd party supporters can show me that you have an actual viable alternative that can win, don't bother me with that 'throw my vote away so I can be smug, and superior too' crap.

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j-mac said:

Ok, so in your eyes there won't be a problem until you see a Stalinist Communist state take hold? I've got news for you, by then it would be too late....The decline of society never comes in a full swoop, but rather baby bites, until one day you wake up, and those things that you tick off there are in place....

Do we have the chance to save from going down that road? I believe at this point, yes, but barely.

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In other words, "Let's decree the coming apocalypses so that when the apocalypses happens I can say, 'See...told you so!'" :roll:

Way to :spin: the slippery slope argument in full blow-out mode.

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Objective Voice said:

In other words, "Let's decree the coming apocalypses so that when the apocalypses happens I can say, 'See...told you so!'" :roll:

Way to :spin: the slippery slope argument in full blow-out mode.

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Simple question....Would you say that America is more free today than in say decades past? And do you see anything in our future that could infringe on our rights?

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tres borrachos said:

What language is this post written in?

My name isn't Hillary, actually.

No, I'm not "twisted".

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Itsa write inna axent... Juneau? I'na two ungry, anna goin-a go to Maddona's.

Jew gonna choin me Hillary?

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j-mac said:

Simple question....Would you say that America is more free today than in say decades past? And do you see anything in our future that could infringe on our rights?

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I'd say America is just as free today as it was 8 years ago.

Yes, some rights have been infringed upon - mostly property rights (i.e., Dakota oil pipeline), but it seems the people most infringed on there are fighting back and just may win.

If you want to claim that the tax penalty in PPACA (bka, ObamaCare) is a form of infringing on one's property rights (i.e., confiscation of money), okay...I'll grant you some leeway there, but not much since few Americans are grossly impacted by the law.

You could try to claim that privacy rights have been infringed on except, the Supreme Court ruled that searching an individual's cellphone during a routine traffic stop is a protect right and the Patriot Act put the brakes on the secret surveillance program Edward Snowden brought to light.

As far as I'm concerned, our nation isn't at that "slippery slope" inflection point that seem to make up many hyperbolic claims. It's great that you're so concerned about it, but I'm afraid we ain't quite there yet. The moment martial law is declared which is different from a curfew during a natural disaster or some crisis of the moment, I'll take your far more seriously on these such matters. Until then...eace

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Objective Voice said:

I'd say America is just as free today as it was 8 years ago.

Yes, some rights have been infringed upon - mostly property rights (i.e., Dakota oil pipeline), but it seems the people most infringed on there are fighting back and just may win.

If you want to claim that the tax penalty in PPACA (bka, ObamaCare) is a form of infringing on one's property rights (i.e., confiscation of money), okay...I'll grant you some leeway there, but not much since few Americans are grossly impacted by the law.

You could try to claim that privacy rights have been infringed on except, the Supreme Court ruled that searching an individual's cellphone during a routine traffic stop is a protect right and the Patriot Act put the brakes on the secret surveillance program Edward Snowden brought to light.

As far as I'm concerned, our nation isn't at that "slippery slope" inflection point that seem to make up many hyperbolic claims. It's great that you're so concerned about it, but I'm afraid we ain't quite there yet. The moment martial law is declared which is different from a curfew during a natural disaster or some crisis of the moment, I'll take your far more seriously on these such matters. Until then...eace

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But that is what I am saying...Do we really have to wait until it is too late? For example...Not really up on the "Dakota oil" thing you mention without more info....But, concerning property rights, take a look at regulation....There have been many stories in the past 8 years about the EPA for example attacking private property owners with outrageous fines, and government suppression.

As for Obamacare, that alone was a huge infringement. The idea that the government can now tell me to subsidize you as if you have a right to my labor, and earnings is on its face unconstitutional, and that takes us to the SCOTUS, who I believe is now politicized and out of control to the point that we don't really have a legislature anymore, not when 9 unelected judges can just wipe aside law, or make up law out of whole cloth.

Should Hillary get in, there is a chance that she could nominate up to 4 Justices to the court, not to mention all of the federal court positions that she will fill, that will tip the balance of liberal power in this country I think forever....We then will loose some of our 1st amendment rights, our 2nd amendment will be gone, and possibly some 5th amendment protections too....I think that is a real possibility.

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j-mac said:

But that is what I am saying...Do we really have to wait until it is too late? For example...Not really up on the "Dakota oil" thing you mention without more info....But, concerning property rights, take a look at regulation....There have been many stories in the past 8 years about the EPA for example attacking private property owners with outrageous fines, and government suppression.

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You'd have to provide a source for such claims other than the rangers in Washington State. I'm pretty much up to speed on that one and believe the rangers are wrong in that case. But if you know of others, do share.

As for Obamacare, that alone was a huge infringement. The idea that the government can now tell me to subsidize you as if you have a right to my labor, and earnings is on its face unconstitutional.

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Hold on there, trigger. If you pay your taxes, the money isn't yours anymore. It now rightfully belongs to the federal government via the U.S. Treasury. The only way YOU make that direct subsidy payment to ObamaCare is if YOU write a check directly to it. Have you written any checks to ObamaCare lately? I get the argument that many people have over "tax and spend" policies, but if you believe that tax dollars are being spent recklessly, vote out the dumbies who write dumb tax policy laws. :shrug: But once those dollars leave your wallet and go to the fed, it's not your money anymore. It's no different than when you pay your electric bill, cable bill, car note, mortgage or simply buy groceries. You've spent it!...or in this case paid the prerequisite tax. Bye-Bye dollar bill!! :2wave: Where it goes from there isn't your problem...at least not directly...unless you make it your problem. So, you want to change this particular tax penalty law, take the fight up with Congress! It's well within your right to do so. Me? I think having a healthy nation is a good thing...makes us a more productive country. And considering how so many people only receive their health insurance through their employers and many people really can't afford insurance otherwise, I'd say these subsidies is money well spent for the cheap cost (re: Medicaid).

And that takes us to the SCOTUS, who I believe is now politicized and out of control to the point that we don't really have a legislature anymore, not when 9 unelected judges can just wipe aside law, or make up law out of whole cloth.

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I think you mean "judiciary". But let's be honest...hasn't it really been that way long before Scolia's death...members of the SC legislating from the bench? Don't just lay that guilt trip on the Obama Administration especially considering most of his judicial changes have come at the lower courts.

Should Hillary get in, there is a chance that she could nominate up to 4 Justices to the court, not to mention all of the federal court positions that she will fill, that will tip the balance of liberal power in this country I think forever....We then will loose some of our 1st amendment rights, our 2nd amendment will be gone, and possibly some 5th amendment protections too....I think that is a real possibility.

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Forever...that's a mighty long time
But I'm hear to tell ya', there's something else
The Afterworld
A life of never-ending happiness
Where you can always see the sun day or night

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'Cause in this life things are much harder than in the Afterworld
In this life, you're on your own

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- Prince, "Let's Go Crazy!"

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Objective Voice said:

You'd have to provide a source for such claims other than the rangers in Washington State. I'm pretty much up to speed on that one and believe the rangers are wrong in that case. But if you know of others, do share.



Hold on there, trigger. If you pay your taxes, the money isn't yours anymore. It now rightfully belongs to the federal government via the U.S. Treasury. The only way YOU make that direct subsidy payment to ObamaCare is if YOU write a check directly to it. Have you written any checks to ObamaCare lately? I get the argument that many people have over "tax and spend" policies, but if you believe that tax dollars are being spent recklessly, vote out the dumbies who write dumb tax policy laws. :shrug: But once those dollars leave your wallet and go to the fed, it's not your money anymore. It's no different than when you pay your electric bill, cable bill, car note, mortgage or simply buy groceries. You've spent it!...or in this case paid the prerequisite tax. Bye-Bye dollar bill!! :2wave: Where it goes from there isn't your problem...at least not directly...unless you make it your problem. So, you want to change this particular tax penalty law, take the fight up with Congress! It's well within your right to do so. Me? I think having a healthy nation is a good thing...makes us a more productive country. And considering how so many people only receive their health insurance through their employers and many people really can't afford insurance otherwise, I'd say these subsidies is money well spent for the cheap cost (re: Medicaid).



I think you mean "judiciary". But let's be honest...hasn't it really been that way long before Scolia's death...members of the SC legislating from the bench? Don't just lay that guilt trip on the Obama Administration especially considering most of his judicial changes have come at the lower courts.





- Prince, "Let's Go Crazy!"

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Sigh, you asked my opinion, and I gave it....And I am not alone....I will address your long post at a later time, right now is dinner time, so, off I go....