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Email shows federal immigration bosses in OT push to swear in new citizens 'due to election' | Fox News
[FONT=&quot]An internal Obama administration email shows immigration officials may be literally working overtime to swear in as many new “citizen voters” as possible before the Nov. 8 presidential election, a powerful lawmaker charged Thursday.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The email, from a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services field office chief and part of a chain of correspondence within the agency, urges the unnamed recipient to swear in as many citizens as possible “due to the election year.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“The Field Office due to the election year needs to process as many of their N-400 cases as possible between now and FY 2016,” reads the email, which was disclosed to FoxNews.com by Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., who chairs the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[/FONT]

Yeah, **** America, we need votes from non-citizens! - Democrat Party
 
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Of course they are. That's how organized crime works.
 
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you missed the point
they will be citizens who are eligible to vote

that is a routine action by a federal agency this time of year with the oct 1 fiscal new year looming
'use it or lose it' is also a truism about federal budgets
would not surprise me that there were budgeted but unused overtime hours available to be spent
and the agency spent them doing the agency's naturalization work
don't see a problem
 
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Yeah, its not as though they're rushing because there's an anti-immigrant fascist running with a good chance of taking office thanks to the election.

You declare disgust that people that are here and working and doing a lot more to earn citizenship than you ever did are trying to become citizens before the very real prospect your fascist candidate is going to deport them not because they've actually done anything wrong but just because you want to make America white again.

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Re: Email shows federal immigration bosses in OT push to swear in new citizens 'due t

Yeah, its not as though they're rushing because there's an anti-immigrant fascist running with a good chance of taking office thanks to the election.

You declare disgust that people that are here and working and doing a lot more to earn citizenship than you ever did are trying to become citizens before the very real prospect your fascist candidate is going to deport them not because they've actually done anything wrong but just because you want to make America white again.

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I'm sorry, Mr. Socialist, I cannot take your comment seriously.
 
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What are Republicans worried about? Trump is going to win the Hispanic vote. No?
 
Re: Email shows federal immigration bosses in OT push to swear in new citizens 'due t

you missed the point
they will be citizens who are eligible to vote

that is a routine action by a federal agency this time of year with the oct 1 fiscal new year looming
'use it or lose it' is also a truism about federal budgets
would not surprise me that there were budgeted but unused overtime hours available to be spent
and the agency spent them doing the agency's naturalization work
don't see a problem
And seems you conveniently overlook/miss the other point, that it says it is because its an election year. Right? But most importantly, if so that would kind of nix all your points, seems to me.

“The Field Office due to the election year needs to process as many of their N-400 cases as possible between now and FY 2016,”
 
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What are Republicans worried about? Trump is going to win the Hispanic vote. No?



NPR did a segment yesterday on this. Latinos in general are more religious than Caucasians. The more religious one is the more likely they are to support republicans.

The segment had a few interviews of people absolutely trashing Trump but still plan on voting for him. The reason why was because of Hillary's stance on abortion and homosexual marriage conflict with their religion.


It would be a hoot if all these new citizens are the determining factor of a Trump victory. It would show how out of touch politicians are.
 
Re: Email shows federal immigration bosses in OT push to swear in new citizens 'due t

Yeah, its not as though they're rushing because there's an anti-immigrant fascist running with a good chance of taking office thanks to the election.

You declare disgust that people that are here and working and doing a lot more to earn citizenship than you ever did are trying to become citizens before the very real prospect your fascist candidate is going to deport them not because they've actually done anything wrong but just because you want to make America white again.

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Illegally crossing our Southern Border is doing something wrong. As for the Democrats, of-course theyre trying to flood this Nation with as many uneducated, unskilled illegals as they can.

Not only do they need new voters, they need naive voters with very limited educations.

Those people are a lot easier to lie to and are more receptive to the destructive and disastrous Socialist initiatives that people like you buy into.
 
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I'm sorry, Mr. Socialist, I cannot take your comment seriously.

That's because you do not seem to be mentally competent enough to take any comment that differs from your own opinion seriously, ever.
 
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NPR did a segment yesterday on this. Latinos in general are more religious than Caucasians. The more religious one is the more likely they are to support republicans.

The segment had a few interviews of people absolutely trashing Trump but still plan on voting for him. The reason why was because of Hillary's stance on abortion and homosexual marriage conflict with their religion.


It would be a hoot if all these new citizens are the determining factor of a Trump victory. It would show how out of touch politicians are.

Trump is never going to win the hispanic vote, much less an election. Only you have the power to end the delusion making it possible for you to think that he could.
 
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you missed the point
they will be citizens who are eligible to vote

that is a routine action by a federal agency this time of year with the oct 1 fiscal new year looming
'use it or lose it' is also a truism about federal budgets
would not surprise me that there were budgeted but unused overtime hours available to be spent
and the agency spent them doing the agency's naturalization work
don't see a problem

Nope. Not really how the Government works, and most definitely not what the memo said. They are authorizing the overtime in order to process as many applications as possible before the election. Late fiscal year is almost always tight on funding for OT and loose on funding for acquisitions. The two funding streams don't cross.

OT is also not really a "use it or lose it" situation. Agencies are funded by hours and positions and they don't have a surplus of hours unless they have unfilled positions... and they don't lose the positions because of a turn in the FY, so they really don't HAVE to spend OT, and usually advise against it because per position hours are usually so tight. The budget for acquisitions, is usually swagged by 15% every year and there is always an end of FY push to spend it all so they can justify adding another 15% to the budget in the next FY.

I have never in all my years working in and around federal government seen a memo asking people to work overtime on a project that has no deadline. In this case they have self imposed an imaginary deadline of the election. It's right there in the memo.
 
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Trump is never going to win the hispanic vote, much less an election. Only you have the power to end the delusion making it possible for you to think that he could.

I don't know who will win and neither do you. The best we have are opinions.

I myself have not fully decided on who will get my vote. I know who will not get it. Chances are I will not be voting for anyone I support. My vote will be against one if not both major candidates
 
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Of course you don't.

These people are accepted as citizens through the normal, incredibly lengthy immigration process. Why do you want to stop them from voting?
 
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That's because you do not seem to be mentally competent enough to take any comment that differs from your own opinion seriously, ever.

You just joined this site, you don't know me. This is our first interaction.
 
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And seems you conveniently overlook/miss the other point, that it says it is because its an election year. Right? But most importantly, if so that would kind of nix all your points, seems to me.

“The Field Office due to the election year needs to process as many of their N-400 cases as possible between now and FY 2016,”

and that FY2016 ends 09/30/16; in a week
while the office has an overtime budget available to it, spend that budget getting the office's work done
not a thing odd about that
 
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You just joined this site, you don't know me. This is our first interaction.

And thus far you're remarkably consistent.
 
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NPR did a segment yesterday on this. Latinos in general are more religious than Caucasians. The more religious one is the more likely they are to support republicans.

The segment had a few interviews of people absolutely trashing Trump but still plan on voting for him. The reason why was because of Hillary's stance on abortion and homosexual marriage conflict with their religion.


It would be a hoot if all these new citizens are the determining factor of a Trump victory. It would show how out of touch politicians are.

Blacks are pretty conservative on abortion, too....but they're not voting for Trump. And while Hispanics are conservative on social issues too...I think their priorities at the ballot box are still education and economic opportunities.
 
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and that FY2016 ends 09/30/16; in a week
while the office has an overtime budget available to it, spend that budget getting the office's work done
not a thing odd about that
That, indeed, would be the description of a regular year, nothing special what is always done. That is NOT what was emphasized here in this case.

You've premised it, so what is their regular year's budget, where are they at now and how much is left over for OT?
 
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Blacks are pretty conservative on abortion, too....but they're not voting for Trump. And while Hispanics are conservative on social issues too...I think their priorities at the ballot box are still education and economic opportunities.
I was in public school education in Florida, a state with high Hispanic citizen and immigration figures. I can assure you that education is not high on the priority list of most Hispanic families... so where are you getting your information on that assertion?

Myself, am pretty sure that usually economic opportunities are high on everyone's list. Why would a sensible person vote for what is essentially a continuation of the lackluster Obama economy?
 
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I was in public school education in Florida, a state with high Hispanic citizen and immigration figures. I can assure you that education is not high on the priority list of most Hispanic families... so where are you getting your information on that assertion?

Myself, am pretty sure that usually economic opportunities are high on everyone's list. Why would a sensible person vote for what is essentially a continuation of the lackluster Obama economy?

Perhaps, Cuban Hispanic priorities are different than Hispanics from Mexico and Central America. Hispanics don't always vote as a block. But for Hispanics in California, perhaps even nationally, education and economic opportunities seem to be their priorities.

Why would a sensible person vote for a party that tanked the economy, wants to abolish public education and deport their families?
 
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Why would a sensible person vote for what is essentially a continuation of the lackluster Obama economy?

Why would a decent person call the economy a Black president has us in with significant job growth and a real turn around a 'lackluster economy' when the last 3 Republican presidents have all left the economy in far worse states?

Its clearly not because of the state the economy is in. It must be some other factor that skews your assessment of the economy.
 
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Perhaps, Cuban Hispanic priorities are different than Hispanics from Mexico and Central America. Hispanics don't always vote as a block. But for Hispanics in California, perhaps even nationally, education and economic opportunities seem to be their priorities.

Why would a sensible person vote for a party that tanked the economy, wants to abolish public education and deport their families?
We could argue about this all day regarding the economy, but the fact remains that until the Dems took back control of the House the economy, that had tanked after 9 11 had recovered. With spending on wars agreed and voted upon by BOTH parties, including the current criminal running on the Dem side, and the cataclysm of all three houses, both houses of Congress and the White House under the control of Dems, the system was showing no signs of recovery until the Republicans took back control of both houses.

Dems da facts.

Florida hasn't just Cuban Hispanics... I taught for 17 years and very few of my students were of Cuban descent, although we had many of Puerto Rican descent. Cuban families, probably more than all other Hispanic groups generally, have a desire for education, along with hard work and effort... a real desire to get ahead. Most of our Hispanics came from Mexico, Central and South America, many many from Venezuela and Colombia. But good numbers from Ecuador, Peru, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Argentina and Chile. We also had a ton of students from Brazil, technically not Hispanic but definitely Latin American.

Particularly my Mexican students and their parents, in general, were not much interested about education and many of the students not at all enthused with being in the US. I worked after school for several years in a special program to assist these students acclimate, learn the language... so I have personal experience, however anecdotal but fairly consistent trend wise over several years in Central Florida.
 
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