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Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting[W:226]

Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

TheDemSocialist said:
This is what happens when the people become so enraged and angry at a justice system that is clearly failing them.
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from preliminary reports, the justice/legal system is well serving them

the police officers were at that apartment complex to serve a warrant upon someone else

those officers had a legitimate concern when observing someone in a vehicle in possession of a hand gun

they approached that armed person and commanded him to drop his weapon

he did not. he failed to heed the lawful command of a police officer

the police rightfully believed ill intent by the victim due to his refusal to drop the weapon

now to your point about the victim possessing a second amendment right. unless we determine that he was a felon or otherwise deprived of his right to bear arms, then we can conclude he did possess said right to bear arms. however, that right comes with an expectation of responsible behavior while possessing a gun. the victim did not act responsibly. instead, he ignore the lawful directive of the police to drop that weapon. that he did not act as a responsible gun owner is why he is now dead
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

soot said:
I've seen no indication or claims by police that he was brandishing it, threatening anyone with it, actively engaged in shooting at anyone with it.

You'd think that if he was pointing it at a police officer or doing anything that was even remotely threatening they would have fallen all over themselves to include something like that in the numerous official and unofficial statements that they've made.

He was simply in possession of it.

I understand that the police ordered him to drop it, or so I've read.

But if he was legally in possession of a legal firearm and the police aren't able to articulate how exactly he was posing a threat to anyone I fail to see the justification for the shooting or, as far as it goes, where they had legal grounds for even interrogating him as a suspect in anything.

If an American citizen is simply exercising his right to bear arms and not actively presenting any kind of threat to anyone what right do the police have to even look at the guy twice?

I don't care that the police "ordered" him to drop it before immediately shooting him dead.

Maybe he didn't hear them.

Maybe he was absorbed in his own thoughts and not paying attention to them.

Maybe he didn't think they were talking to him because he knew he wasn't breaking any laws.

If police officers feel so threatened by average Americans simply exercising their Constitutional rights then maybe they aren't fit to serve as police officers.
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Maybe they should wait till he shoots someone so they an be criticized for not acting soon enough.




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Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

blackjack50 said:
The inner city is poisoned. It has been for generations. This has a lot to do with the quality of life of inner city youth. You think police response is the same to a poor area that has no gangs? It isn't. If you want to delve into why police "respond a certain way," then you need to look at the culture of the community they police. The law enforcement is a product of that environment.
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Thanks, but I already know exactly why police 'respond in a certain way'.
It is easy to have a well paid professional department of good guys in suburbia or Hollywood Hills. Not the case in broken inner city Detroit.
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Utterly irrelevant to what I posted.

Sorry, but there is exactly zero evidence at this point to indicate it had to do with drugs or gangs. If you have that evidence, by all means cite it
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

jonny5 said:
Yet more people taking advantage of a situation to enrich themselves, while claiming to be protesting police abuse. How long until another ambush of police happens like in Texas? Where innocent people are killed in the name of black lives mattering? BLM does not endorse this, but it sure isnt helping by organizing protests which turn into riots. And the media certainly isnt helping by spreading this false narrative that police are bad, and return violence will be highlighted and celebrated.
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So your OP really isn't about the possibility of another innocent black man being shot?
 
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ludin said:
strawman arguments are strawman arguments. this is a strawman and an appeal to emotion.
why can't you address what I said instead of making something up I didn't say?
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I asked a question. I didnt make anything up.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
So your OP really isn't about the possibility of another innocent black man being shot?
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During a riot? I guess its kind of about that.
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

blackjack50 said:
Maybe they should wait till he shoots someone so they an be criticized for not acting soon enough.
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Yeah, we really should get in to that kind of thought policing!

Cops should just wander around killing people before they have a chance to commit crimes!
 
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I watches these animals burn a truck live in the wee hours of this morning..

Animals..

Great ammo for Trump.. Many new Trump voters..
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

soot said:
I've seen no indication or claims by police that he was brandishing it, threatening anyone with it, actively engaged in shooting at anyone with it.

You'd think that if he was pointing it at a police officer or doing anything that was even remotely threatening they would have fallen all over themselves to include something like that in the numerous official and unofficial statements that they've made.

He was simply in possession of it.

I understand that the police ordered him to drop it, or so I've read.

But if he was legally in possession of a legal firearm and the police aren't able to articulate how exactly he was posing a threat to anyone I fail to see the justification for the shooting or, as far as it goes, where they had legal grounds for even interrogating him as a suspect in anything.

If an American citizen is simply exercising his right to bear arms and not actively presenting any kind of threat to anyone what right do the police have to even look at the guy twice?

I don't care that the police "ordered" him to drop it before immediately shooting him dead.

Maybe he didn't hear them.

Maybe he was absorbed in his own thoughts and not paying attention to them.

Maybe he didn't think they were talking to him because he knew he wasn't breaking any laws.

If police officers feel so threatened by average Americans simply exercising their Constitutional rights then maybe they aren't fit to serve as police officers.
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Or maybe it just goes to show that having a bunch of Wyatt Eerps running around in public with guns isn't such a good idea after all. Having a Constitutional right doesn't mean you have no obligation to use it responsibly. If the police tell you to drop your gun then do it or don't complain about the consequences that follow for not doing it.
 
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ludin said:
No one told him to drop the gun from the report I read.
Another report said he was told to drop the gun.

The police refuse to release the body camera footage.

Getting in and out of your car with a gun is not a threat and it is 100% constitutional and legal to do so
whether the police are present or not.

if he was told to drop the gun and didn't that is fine. Put the video evidence out there.
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Someone needed to tell him to unhand the gun? Really?
 
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Orly? said:
I watches these animals burn a truck live in the wee hours of this morning..

Animals..

Great ammo for Trump.. Many new Trump voters..
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My favorite part was when Scott's brother said all white cops are devils.
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

TheDemSocialist said:
This is what happens when the people become so enraged and angry at a justice system that is clearly failing them.
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Thos is what happens when someone illegally waves a gun at police officers.
 
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jonny5 said:
I asked a question. I didnt make anything up.
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yes you are.
 
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apdst said:
Someone needed to tell him to unhand the gun? Really?
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show me where it is illegal to get a gun out of your car.
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

ludin said:
show me where it is illegal to get a gun out of your car.
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It's illegal to brandish a gun at police officers. There's no jurisdiction in The United States where it is.
 
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Napoleon said:
Or maybe it just goes to show that having a bunch of Wyatt Eerps running around in public with guns isn't such a good idea after all.
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Wyatt Earp was a cop.

I agree that having a few less of them running around with guns, and transferring responsibility for self defense on to the individual, wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Having a Constitutional right doesn't mean you have no obligation to use it responsibly.
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Agreed.

Please share whatever evidence it is that you think you have which demonstrates that Keith Lamont Scott was irresponsible in his 2nd Amendment rights.

If the police tell you to drop your gun then do it or don't complain about the consequences that follow for not doing it.
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What if you don't hear the command?

What if you've got earbuds in your ears and you're listening to music?

What if you're distracted or preoccupied and you're not really paying attention?

What if you know you're not doing anything illegal and you don't think the cop is talking to you?

What if you've got a collectible or otherwise very expensive firearm and you know that dropping it on to the pavement could cause damage that will turn a $3000 handgun in to a $500 paperweight?

What if, what if, what if...

I can think if plenty of reasons that a guy might not drop a gun immediately.
 
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Hillary Live 2 minutes ago

The protest in Charlotte last night..........LMOA

The bimbo can't recognize a riot when she see's one, how the hell is she going to fix it?
 
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I'm getting confused. is this the one that(turns out) was shot by a black cop or the one where they found PCP in the guy's car and had already try to tazer him without success? I get my fake outrage stories mixed up some times.
 
Re: Charlotte faces aftermath of protests ignited by fatal police shooting

RetiredUSN said:
Hillary Live 2 minutes ago

The protest in Charlotte last night..........LMOA

The bimbo can't recognize a riot when she see's one, how the hell is she going to fix it?
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She wants the riots.
 
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I thought Keith Lamont Scott was a gentlemanly scholar reading a book, when thug police officers descended on him with blazing guns?

Oh well, let's go set some **** on fire!
 
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apdst said:
She wants the riots.
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Riots= votes for Trump :)

The more people burn and loot, the closer Hillary gets to the boot.
 
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