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NCAA to move 7 championships from North Carolina due to HB2 law

A state not allowing cities to violate private property rights isn't worth any kind of fuss; it should just be the norm.
 
JasperL said:
Well, no, that's not their only job. They also host multi-$million events, like the NCAA men's and women's basketball tournaments. It's a big business. Annual revenues exceed $1 billion.
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Yep not to play politics. We are not a thought police society even though we are becoming one.
 
AGENT J said:
Ill say the same thing I'd said earlier:

I don't really disagree but since its really OTHERS that make this political what solution do you suggest?
If we believe the NCAA this is about protecting their staff(and others) by making sure venues operate in the same parameters in which the NCAA operates itself.
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My suggestion. NCAA should accept the State Laws (as long as the laws do not violate the Constitution). Yes, I know some laws are being challenged in the courts.
 
Sucks to suck North Carolina
 
chromium said:
please, this is just like any other civil rights boycott, not remotely similar to buying a politician for promises of profitable legislation. At least if you're gonna make an accusation like that, find some proof of such a link
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Dark money in Arizona.

Roberts: Roll call: Who supported expanding dark money in Arizona?

Back to the OP.

The NCAA is supporting social change that is against what the elected representatives of NC voted on an passed. Now if the courts over turn the NC law, then the move by the NCAA is mute. Hosting the events is an economic event. The NCAA knows that.

Let the courts , not the NCAA make the decision. There are some who disagree with some laws CA has passed regarding guns. Should the NCAA withdraw events if they disagree with the laws?

If the NCAA is so concerned, then they should not allow any event take place in the State, including regular season games. The Universities should be kicked out of the NCAA. After all, the State does not comply to what the NCAA wants as far as social/cival rights.
 
JayDubya said:
A state not allowing cities to violate private property rights isn't worth any kind of fuss; it should just be the norm.
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Well, you obviously must oppose the CRA, which is fine, but the state doesn't actually have a problem with violating private property rights when it comes to race, religion, etc. because they changed the law to again allow state lawsuits for discrimination against those covered by the CRA. The state just doesn't believe LGBT deserve the same protections as Christians/Jews/blacks/etc. and prohibited cities and counties from having a different opinion and in the process repealed Charlotte's decision to extend protections to LGBT.

Also, those who disagree with you are also free to make business choices accordingly, which is all that happened here.
 
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ludin said:
Yep not to play politics. We are not a thought police society even though we are becoming one.
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They decided where to spend their money by hosting events, and their college members and corporate partners obviously decided they'd rather do it in a state other than NC. Since when do conservatives or libertarians oppose that in principle?
 
Excon said:
1. The NCAA needs to stay out of politics.
2. I hope there is cause to sue as no University should be harmed for the actions of the State.
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So, you are for the free market...until you disagree with it.
 
Dang, and I was just starting to enjoy college football again. Oh well, this frees up my Saturdays.
 
I strongly disagree with semi public institutions using their management position to enforce political policy.

Then there is the "hush hush" issue of illegally giving money to athletes, not to mention padding grades, which they all do. And lastly, make the beginning efforts to start a new regional NCAA that can lead to a college "Super Bowl".

And start the movement anew to force colleges to give players a cut of royalties. These guys play the game, and the college sells the merchandise, and the players don't get a nickle. The colleges are raking millions based on players "work" and not paying them. It's athletic slavery, by George!

NC should lead the charge to see that players own their name and likeness, not the college. They are not the college's slaves. They are our kids.

"Players Royalties Matter!"

The NCAA has officially outlived it's usefulness.
 
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JasperL said:
They decided where to spend their money by hosting events, and their college members and corporate partners obviously decided they'd rather do it in a state other than NC. Since when do conservatives or libertarians oppose that in principle?
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they are playing politics and thought policing. something that should be frowned on by everyone.
 
Don't see what the problem with this is. The door swings both ways
 
chuckiechan said:
And start the movement anew to force colleges to give players a cut of royalties. These guys play the game, and the college sells the merchandise, and the players don't get a nickle. The colleges are raking millions based on players "work" and not paying them. It's athletic slavery, by George!

NC should lead the charge to see that players own their name and likeness, not the college. They are not the college's slaves. They are our kids.

"Players Royalties Matter!"

The NCAA has officially outlived it's usefulness.
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This is not true. NCAA allows for a small stipend. also they are paid the average college athletes receives about 60+ thousand dollars a year in compensation for playing football.
So they are getting decently compensated

A court has already ruled that they get to keep their name and likeness and image.
 
ludin said:
This is not true. NCAA allows for a small stipend. also they are paid the average college athletes receives about 60+ thousand dollars a year in compensation for playing football.
So they are getting decently compensated

A court has already ruled that they get to keep their name and likeness and image.
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I didn't know that. Good for them!

What sports are included?
 
Samhain said:
Don't see what the problem with this is. The door swings both ways
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Indeed it does. The NCAA has forgotten that sport is a diversion that we watch to get away from the BS the rest of the world throws at us. Now that they are just another source of BS I will choose a different diversion.
 
Excon said:
I hope there is cause to sue as no University should be harmed for the actions of the State.
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Who is going to sue? That's like universities suing the NCAA for moving bowl games, or sponsors suing the NCAA for not re-upping contracts.

You are grasping at straws.
 
beefheart said:
So, you are for the free market...until you disagree with it.
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I think you are confused. That is not the free market, it is an Association holding a member responsible for the actions of their state.
 
Kushinator said:
Who is going to sue? That's like universities suing the NCAA for moving bowl games, or sponsors suing the NCAA for not re-upping contracts.

You are grasping at straws.
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Grasping? iLOL Hilarious.
Hoping that there is a cause to sue is not grasping.
 
ludin said:
they are playing politics and thought policing. something that should be frowned on by everyone.
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So, businesses can choose where to host events so long as they do not consider discrimination laws? Is that the principle at work here? Or maybe, they are free to choose where to host events if you agree with their rationale?

And anti-discrimination laws are not about "thoughts" but actions.
 
Excon said:
Grasping? iLOL Hilarious.
Hoping that there is a cause to sue is not grasping.
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Hoping such a thing is feasible is indeed grasping. And now that you mention it, it is hilarious!

Do expound; who will be suing and what exactly will they be suing for? :lol:
 
chuckiechan said:
I didn't know that. Good for them!

What sports are included?
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That is what is set for football.
I don't know about other sports.

that 60k includes free room and board, tuition, books, trainers, gym etc ...
the stipend is about up to 3,600 but there are regulations on it.
 
JasperL said:
So, businesses can choose where to host events so long as they do not consider discrimination laws? Is that the principle at work here? Or maybe, they are free to choose where to host events if you agree with their rationale?

And anti-discrimination laws are not about "thoughts" but actions.
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their job is to govern student athletics not politics or thought policing.

Nope it is thought policing period. so I guess you support thought police and we should punish
everyone that doesn't think a certain way. hmmm not the America I know.
 
jmotivator said:
Dang, and I was just starting to enjoy college football again. Oh well, this frees up my Saturdays.
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LOL, I'm sure you were a BIG fan if you're going to forego watching football over this issue.... :roll:

Besides, the NCAA has a lot of very serious problems in my view, including, for example, how they whitewashed problems at UNC, story here, and somehow managed to only find big problems with WOMEN'S basketball, but left the men's team essentially unscathed over a massive university wide program to hand out grades to elite athletes to keep them eligible.

Point is if this (the NCAA effectively supporting LGBT rights) is what has you upset with the NCAA to the extent you'll boycott college sports, I have to think you're not paying attention or have your priorities out of whack.
 
ludin said:
This is not true. NCAA allows for a small stipend. also they are paid the average college athletes receives about 60+ thousand dollars a year in compensation for playing football.
So they are getting decently compensated
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Decently compensated?

You know who is getting decently compensated? The athletic directors and coaches at these schools.

Make no mistake, amateur college athletics is a multi-billion-dollar for-profit industry.
 
Kushinator said:
Decently compensated?

You know who is getting decently compensated? The athletic directors and coaches at these schools.

Make no mistake, amateur college athletics is a multi-billion-dollar for-profit industry.
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that is why most schools run in the red. You forget that those millions that football brings in fund all the
non-revenue sports like the tennis team and the soccer team and the softball team the baseball team
etc ...

yes 60+k a year is a decent compensation.
 
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