Trump's 'rigged election' rhetoric could inspire voter intimidation, say experts

Somerville said:

Nice to see you qualified your statement with the adverb - lately - as history tells us of multiple cases of black voter intimidation in the past.

The Philadelphia incident has been played out to some extreme levels by the usual right wing blowhards. Philadelphia police told one BP to go away, as noted in your Wiki link, by 10AM. The other BP member was a registered poll watcher in the district which was a majority African American precinct, a reliably Democratic leaning neighbourhood - not a logical place for intimidating "crackers"

The other funny is your use of Wikipedia for support when every day I can read how unreliable and liberal biased the site is.

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Eric Holder ok'd thugs making an appearance at polling houses. Of you don't like it, thank him.

apdst said:

Eric Holder ok'd thugs making an appearance at polling houses. Of you don't like it, thank him.

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Really? Provide us with some proof of your statement. The Philadelphia incident has already been beat to death - give us another example.

apdst said:

Not nearly as dangerous as the leftist militants in America. How many black lies matter riots have there been compared to Tea Party riots? Have there been any Tea Party riots?

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Black Lives Matter doesn't have any power. They don't have backers worth billions. They're a loud but non-influential group that will probably not exist 18 months from now. As for violent rioters and looters, those people aren't political, and it's doubtful they even vote. And of those that do vote, I'd wager a C-note that it makes up a single digit percentage.

On the other hand, the Tea Party has a lot of power. They have backers giving them tens of millions of dollars and they hold lots of high positions in the government, which they have used to obstruct legislation for the stated purpose of obstruction. Rather than helping the American people to improve the quality of their lives by proposing improvements and alternatives to something like the ACA, they have simply gotten in its way and hamstrung it at every turn in order to make it as ineffective as possible.

That's power. That's having the ability to influence the daily quality of life for Americans. And they have worked hard to make the quality of life worse in order to gain more political power.

So at the end of the day, BLM really doesn't matter because they have no real influence and they never will. Meanwhile, the Tea Party does have real power and they have been able to exercise it to the detriment of all Americans.

PeteEU said:

If the Russians tamper with the election it will be to get Trump elected.. so..

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I don't blame them. Hillary is a half crazy hawk, looking for a way to protect her international donor system. They bought power, and now they want to collect. Trump brings economic activity which will cause an increase in energy demand, which is a plus for Russia, and a negative for China.

Opopanax said:

Black Lives Matter doesn't have any power. They don't have backers worth billions. They're a loud but non-influential group that will probably not exist 18 months from now. As for violent rioters and looters, those people aren't political, and it's doubtful they even vote. And of those that do vote, I'd wager a C-note that it makes up a single digit percentage.

On the other hand, the Tea Party has a lot of power. They have backers giving them tens of millions of dollars and they hold lots of high positions in the government, which they have used to obstruct legislation for the stated purpose of obstruction. Rather than helping the American people to improve the quality of their lives by proposing improvements and alternatives to something like the ACA, they have simply gotten in its way and hamstrung it at every turn in order to make it as ineffective as possible.

That's power. That's having the ability to influence the daily quality of life for Americans. And they have worked hard to make the quality of life worse in order to gain more political power.

So at the end of the day, BLM really doesn't matter because they have no real influence and they never will. Meanwhile, the Tea Party does have real power and they have been able to exercise it to the detriment of all Americans.

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When was the last time Tea Partiers rioted?

Somerville said:

Really? Provide us with some proof of your statement. The Philadelphia incident has already been beat to death - give us another example.

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I already did. Its in the link I provided.

VanceMack said:

Its funny. Trump says 'rigged election' and you **** yourself. Obama and Hillary are both expressing concerns over election tampering...but you are still ****ting yourself over Trumps comments...comments which apparently Obama and Hillary agree with.

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The new Black Panthers stood outside a polling place with weapons and liberals could care less.

Somerville said:

and Trump supporters would never, ever do any such thing because they are such civilised folks :roll:

WATCH: Trump Supporters Attack Two Men For Quietly Sitting with Protest Signs

Video: Trump protester sucker-punched at rally in North Carolina

Trump protester sucker-punched by supporter in brutal video of Tucson rally

here's an example from a 'radical leftie' web site (that's sarcasm by the way, just saying clearly as some can be a bit clueless)

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Meanwhile, Democrat voters...



It's like the violent Occupy protests just flit out of your mind for some reason... :roll:

Not to mention attacks on Trump supporters...

jmotivator said:

The new Black Panthers stood outside a polling place with weapons and liberals could care less.

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Liberals "could (not) care less" about an imaginary incident, you know, the one which exists only in the minds of the Obama-haters. Then there is what actually took place on that voting day in a Philadelphia precinct; one New Black Panther with a billy club in hand was told to leave by Philadelphia police. IF you take the time to view videos from the time Shabazz was on site you will see voters walking past him without seeming to care. ALL of the tales come from one rightie reporter on site.

chuckiechan said:

I can't understand why we can't develop a fool proof ballot counting system.

They say the Russians might tamper with the election, so what? If we don't care, why should they?

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There is no such thing as "foolproof".

"It isn't the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes that count."

apdst said:

I already did. Its in the link I provided.

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Have you bothered to read the wiki article, it's kind of long and has some poly syllabic words included?

Somerville said:

Have you bothered to read the wiki article, it's kind of long and has some poly syllabic words included?

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Sure. Obviously you haven't. Or, maybe you did and you know I'm right and that's why you're starting with the insults so soon.

Tanngrisnir said:

What's even funnier is that you have to resort to dishonest hyperbole and still haven't made a rational point.

No one is '****ting' themselves except for in your imagination.

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You people are ****ting yourself on the daily and out of both sides of your mouth. Trump says illegal immigration is a problem and we must build a wall and thats racist and divisive. Hillary says the exact same thing and silence. Trump goes to a black church and its pandering Hillary goes to a black church every election cycle and its great community outreach. You **** yourself over Trump lies but you bet your ass you will be running into the booth and pulling that lever for Hillary. This thread is nothing unique...its just another instance of blind leftist hypocrisy.

Somerville said:

Liberals "could (not) care less" about an imaginary incident, you know, the one which exists only in the minds of the Obama-haters. Then there is what actually took place on that voting day in a Philadelphia precinct; one New Black Panther with a billy club in hand was told to leave by Philadelphia police. IF you take the time to view videos from the time Shabazz was on site you will see voters walking past him without seeming to care. ALL of the tales come from one rightie reporter on site.

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So you say it didn't happen, then admit it did. Typical apologetics from the left wing for the threat against their opponents. I guess the right wing can start dispatching people with weapons to the stoops outside polling places and you'd be fine with it? Of course you wouldn't.

And Trump's rhetoric might not, as well. Trump's hair could inspire riots. Alternatively, it might not. The speculation business is profitable if you happen to be an "expert".

apdst said:

Not nearly as dangerous as the leftist militants in America.

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Deflection is all you have.

MaggieD said:

There is no such thing as "foolproof".

"It isn't the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes that count."

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As they say: "Perfect is the enemy of good". Right now, in California my dog can register to vote and vote absentee. And apparently, someone can hack into the central place where votes are tabulated and change the numbers. So even my dog's vote doesn't count!

VanceMack said:

You people are ****ting yourself on the daily and out of both sides of your mouth.

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Yet more Fantasy Land projection on your part. What's got you worked up into such an tizzy?

Trump says illegal immigration is a problem and we must build a wall and thats racist and divisive. Hillary says the exact same thing and silence. Trump goes to a black church and its pandering Hillary goes to a black church every election cycle and its great community outreach. You **** yourself over Trump lies but you bet your ass you will be running into the booth and pulling that lever for Hillary. This thread is nothing unique...its just another instance of blind leftist hypocrisy.

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Please keep your fecal fantasies to yourself. They're most inappropriate for a political discussion board.

Top Cat said:

Deflection is all you have.

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Facts scare you. Don't they. Perhaps you can tell us the last time Tea Partiers rioted? I'll wait.

I think the possibility of a Trump supporter riot is about the same as a Clinton supporter riot. Those are about the same as the possibility that Obama will dissolve congress and instal himself as president for life.


What I think will actually happen is people will go vote for one of the two worst candidates to ever run in my life time. The country will be worse off no matter Who wins. Power will transfer peacefully and everyone will debate how better or worse life would be if only the other turd won.

apdst said:

When was the last time Tea Partiers rioted?

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1. I never said they did.

2. You miss the point completely. The damage that the Tea Party does to Americans on a daily basis is inestimably more than black rioting; that was the point.

The Tea Party gets people to vote against their own interests consistently and in large numbers. How this happens, I don't know. How they've convinced such a significant portion of the American population to support the profits of insurance companies, medical professionals, and manufacturers of medical equipment over the lives and health of their own children and financial well-being is beyond anything the concepts of reason and rationality are meant to encompass.

At least BLM works towards its supporters own interests, regardless of how misguided it may be. They have a simple and understandable goal: preventing unnecessary police violence against black people. How they go about it is certainly questionable and it is certain to fail because other problems exist in the general black community that need to be addressed first. But the goal is an otherwise an attainable and positive one because it attempts to improve the quality of life of the people it purports to represent.

What does the Tea Party offer to anyone except a small but incredibly powerful handful of natural and non-natural persons? And that's modern American conservatism in a nutshell; a thing that offers nothing of any measurable substance to the vast, vast majority of the American people except simplistic black and white answers that warm stunted intellects and stoke the misguided fires of the ignorant while at the same time lining the pockets of the already wealthy.

Maybe you think a yes or no answer to a question should end an argument. Too bad, it doesn't.

Fletch said:

No. Violent protests are a left wing tactic.

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Nonsense. We learned from the Democrats that men in uniforms carrying clubs and threatening people at the polling station aren't intimidating voters.

Liberal politicians make their living with rhetoric, so it's about time the other side catches up.

VanceMack said:

Its funny. Trump says 'rigged election' and you **** yourself. Obama and Hillary are both expressing concerns over election tampering...but you are still ****ting yourself over Trumps comments...comments which apparently Obama and Hillary agree with.

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considering that obmaa fails to prosecute people that not only intimidate people at polling places but those that are also caught in voter fraud.
this is pretty much a non-issue.

RetiredUSN said:

Liberal politicians make their living with rhetoric, so it's about time the other side catches up.

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If conservatives are going to match liberals stride for stride then we don't need conservatives.