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Trump Lays Out Immigration Policy in Major Speech

It's a common strategy to start out shooting way beyond what you really want because it gives you room to walk back to your actual goal. It makes it seem as if you're giving concessions without actually doing so.

Right. Just like the rest of the politicians out there that make empty promises.
 
OK, so far, nobody has had the cajones to respond to his proposals...which tells me quite a lot about the calibre of the lemmings.

Uh you are a lemming for believing him. What don't you get about that? My response is that I don't believe anything he says. In fact, in four years I predict Trump will write a tell all book about how he played the system and the Republicans at their own game and go back to being a Democrat. It will be called, "How I beat the system," By Donald J Trump and it will be sold at bookstores everywhere for $40 just so he can pay off his campaign and staffers.
 
Wait, so we're going to pay Mexico so they will pay for the border wall? Wouldn't we still end up paying for the wall in that scenario?

Well, whatever it is, I want to hear it from Trump. He's gotta have some sort of idea how he's going to convince Mexico to pay for it.

Well when the Mexican president said no during their meeting he folded faster than a paper bag. Trump is even more spineless than Obama.
 
What the heck does that have to do with anything I was talking about???
I was talking about how much Trump lies to us. Not what Hillary's policies are/may be. You never even pointed to one single lie that she told in this post. If that was your point you failed! Horribly, but then I remember you support Trump. Talking to Trump supporters is hilarious. You make really bad points.

I established a premise in post #31. The first sentence is a question. You answered my question with a question. And you say I failed? Try again, Wizard!
 
I established a premise in post #31. The first sentence is a question. You answered my question with a question. And you say I failed? Try again, Wizard!

First off, Trumpodo. I was responding to mytrump's post #28. Not yours. You were the one that posted all that nonsense about Hillary out of the blue, and never answered what it had to do with my response to Mytrump.
 
Uh you are a lemming for believing him. What don't you get about that? My response is that I don't believe anything he says. In fact, in four years I predict Trump will write a tell all book about how he played the system and the Republicans at their own game and go back to being a Democrat. It will be called, "How I beat the system," By Donald J Trump and it will be sold at bookstores everywhere for $40 just so he can pay off his campaign and staffers.

Still no response. Why am I not surprised.
 
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What would you call trump?:2wave:

The Winner!
 
OK, so far, nobody has had the cajones to respond to his proposals...which tells me quite a lot about the calibre of the lemmings.

Dude. YOU are the lemming.
 
Right. Just like the rest of the politicians out there that make empty promises.

*shrug* Sure. I'm just saying it's a real thing. The ultimate goal is to secure the border. If you get that done, it doesn't matter what you said before.
 
Are you saying that Trump now has a strategy? When did that materialize? Up until now it appears to the objective onlooker as if he's been pulling ideas out of his arse. :thinking

I won't argue with you there. Who knows? I do, however, think it's naive to think he not shrewd.
 
I think he's a liar and a con-artist and I don't believe a word of what he said tonight. How is that not a response?

So, with an attitude like that, can you give us three or four reasons why anybody would care what you think?
 
Are you saying that Trump now has a strategy? When did that materialize? Up until now it appears to the objective onlooker as if he's been pulling ideas out of his arse. :thinking

Spoken like a true Wizard. Don't give up your day job. Politics might not be a good fit.
 
There are a lot of people who don't understand that the game of politics is best played by men. Cowards, commies, and sissies need not apply.

Utter nonsense, I think compared to Margaret Thatchers (someone I do not really like or should I say really not liked) most US presidential candidates were wimps. Just because someone does not have testicles does not mean that she does not have "political balls".

Only people who think in an outdated manner think that politics is best played by men. Because in the centuries that men have been "playing the game of politics" has been such a wonderful success. Global warming, 2 world wars, hundreds of non-world wars, nuclear weapons, pogroms, the holocaust, massacres in Bosnia, the slaughter of Mao/Pol Pot/Stalin, the hundreds of evil dictators, etc. etc. etc. etc. Yes, men playing the game of politics has been a sensational success.:roll:
 
From Trump's speech:



No they won't. Mexico already said they wouldn't pay for it. And how could Trump possibly convince/force Mexico to pay for a giant border wall that isn't even in their own interest?

His entire immigration plan depends on Mexico paying for that border wall, so without it his entire plan is pretty much bunk.

I didnt get to see it yet Ill have to watch it later but he didnt really say that again did he? LMAO
 
Utter nonsense, I think compared to Margaret Thatchers (someone I do not really like or should I say really not liked) most US presidential candidates were wimps. Just because someone does not have testicles does not mean that she does not have "political balls".

Only people who think in an outdated manner think that politics is best played by men. Because in the centuries that men have been "playing the game of politics" has been such a wonderful success. Global warming, 2 world wars, hundreds of non-world wars, nuclear weapons, pogroms, the holocaust, massacres in Bosnia, the slaughter of Mao/Pol Pot/Stalin, the hundreds of evil dictators, etc. etc. etc. etc. Yes, men playing the game of politics has been a sensational success.:roll:

Thank you, Peter King! You've taken a huge weight off my shoulders. I'll run right out and vote for Hillary.
 
Utter nonsense, I think compared to Margaret Thatchers (someone I do not really like or should I say really not liked) most US presidential candidates were wimps. Just because someone does not have testicles does not mean that she does not have "political balls".

Only people who think in an outdated manner think that politics is best played by men. Because in the centuries that men have been "playing the game of politics" has been such a wonderful success. Global warming, 2 world wars, hundreds of non-world wars, nuclear weapons, pogroms, the holocaust, massacres in Bosnia, the slaughter of Mao/Pol Pot/Stalin, the hundreds of evil dictators, etc. etc. etc. etc. Yes, men playing the game of politics has been a sensational success.:roll:

Who even gives a damn what gender the candidates are? It doesn't matter. Gender isn't something I take into consideration when I'm deciding who to vote for. Same thing goes for a candidate's ethnicity, or their hair color.

The only thing I give a **** about is whether they can do the job or not.
 
From Trump's speech this evening:


♦ One: We will build a wall along the Southern Border.

♦ Two: End Catch-And-Release

♦ Three: Zero tolerance for criminal aliens.

♦ Four: Block Funding For Sanctuary Cities

♦ Five: Cancel Unconstitutional Executive Orders & Enforce All Immigration Laws

♦ Six: We Are Going To Suspend The Issuance Of Visas To Any Place Where Adequate Screening Cannot Occur

♦ Seven: We will ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported.

♦ Eight: We will finally complete the biometric entry-exit visa tracking system.


♦ Nine: We will turn off the jobs and benefits magnet [E-Verify].

♦ Ten: We will reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers.


Sounds good to me. And, frankly, it sounds a WHOLE lot better than anything Hillary has to offer.

share with us how eliminating being able to distinguish those who are not legal using the E verify system will help eliminate undocumented workers and the jobs made avaialble to them
 
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