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Million sign petition for new EU referendum

reinoe said:
Rig the rules so that you can get the result you want. She must be campaigning to get a job on Hillary's campaign staff.
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Try writing that so the rest of the forum can make sense of it. We are not hearing the voices in your head that would have resulted in that post being coherent.
 
Serenity said:
I guess if you don't have faith in or respect for the younger generation overall you may feel like that.
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Well, it's true I don't have much faith in some of the youth of today. But, more importantly, I was once 18-24 years old. ;)
 
jimbo said:
Let 'em sign petitions if it makes them feel better. In politics you don't get a do over.
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That's ironic, considering the fact that the foundation of the Brexit movement was a "do-over".
 
The UK is bankrupt.
It has been bankrupt since WWI and definitely after WWII.
It did not complete repayment to US for loans for WW1-2 until December 2006.
Thatcher's policies looked good on paper because North Sea oil was just coming on stream.
North Sea oil is now empty.
Britain will be the first major Western power to collapse and Japan the second. Followed by North America very shortly afterwards. Within 25 years maximum.
 
Cardinal said:
The Petitions Committee will be making that determination, not you.

I'm not confident they will send it to the House of Commons, but I don't think it's impossible either. I don't think it's beyond the pale that the UK will have taken the weekend to blink really, really hard.
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True. I'm more like the Trumpster. I see no reason to meddle in somebody else's business.
 
jimbo said:
True. I'm more like the Trumpster. I see no reason to meddle in somebody else's business.
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He did, however, congratulate their country on seceding. In Scotland.
 
Serenity said:
75% of 18- to 24-year-olds voted to remain in the European Union.
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countryboy said:
Yet more compelling evidence that this was a good move.
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Serenity said:
I guess if you don't have faith in or respect for the younger generation overall you may feel like that.
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If you educate your kids well, instill values & responsibility, and provide a good environment and peer groups for them, you might be surprised by their maturity & common sense. I trust my college-age son's judgement over maybe 80-85% of those in this forum! And this place has it's share of old timers!

You reap what you sow!
 
Cardinal said:
He did, however, congratulate their country on seceding. In Scotland.
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He congratulated the winners. In the UK.

Would you have felt better if he had flown to London prior to issuing his congratulations?
 
jimbo said:
He congratulated the winners. In the UK.

Would you have felt better if he had flown to London prior to issuing his congratulations?
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It's millennials and their parent's generation who have to live with the consequences.
 
Cardinal said:
I can understand that, but it seems that if if England did a reversal the markets would settle down again and more UK citizens would move forward with a refreshed idea of what the EU was actually doing for them.
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There was around a 60% increase in the foreign born population in the UK over the span of a little more than a decade. Could you imagine if the immigration population in the U.S. went from 42 million to 68 million in around 10 years how much that would freak out the country? That is why Trump is calling this decision "taking back their country." The problem is that if Scottland and Ireland break off to stay with the EU then the immigration trends will probably continue and now the British will have to pay to partake in the EU market. They will have gained absolutely nothing and will ultimately paying quite the alimony. In essence, this is just like a regular divorce.



Footing part of the bill? Did that overwhelm the net benefits of unfettered access to the rest of Europe's markets and free, unfettered travel?
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In the U.S. if you live in a state like New York you think nothing about your tax dollars going to pay for things like food stamps in Louisiana. It doesn't quite work that way in the EU. Wealthier countries like the UK may take issue with footing the bill for welfare in Spain, and may forgo benefits like visa free travel to avoid it.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I was under the impression that the Scots strongly wanted to stay in the EU?
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The gist of the comic is that the Scots will break away from the union they have with the UK in order to stay with the EU.
 
CriticalThought said:
The gist of the comic is that the Scots will break away from the union they have with the UK in order to stay with the EU.
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That does look like a possibility. But the Parliament does not have to permit them to leave should they vote to do so. And would that trigger a U.K. civil war? Scary times.
 
From Euro Zone to Dead Zone
“If there is anyone who is responsible for the Brexit, it is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama,” he said. “They destroyed Libya. They turned over Libyan weapons to [Islamic State], al-Qaida and [Nusra Front]. It was their war in Syria, where many of these weapons ended up, which created the massive exodus of refugees into Europe. This exodus exacerbated nationalism and anti-immigrant sentiment. Clinton and Obama are also responsible for a huge exodus of Ukrainians. This is all a response to American war policy in the Middle East and the Ukraine. In central Europe, with the expansion of NATO, Washington is meanwhile demanding that governments spend billions on weapons rather than on recovering the economy.”
Chris Hedges: 2008 All Over Again - Truthdig
 
RogueWarrior said:
Yes
And now the pathway to being in the EU would be to separate from the UK.
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I wonder though if they aren't watching the push for separation votes in France, German, the Netherlands, et al? If the EU breaks apart, I would think Scotland would feel more secure as part of the U.K.
 
Gaztopian said:
That's ironic, considering the fact that the foundation of the Brexit movement was a "do-over".
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Actually it was not. UK join with no referendum in 1973. In 1976 they voted to stay or go at that point. UK has always held the right to walk away at anytime based on referendum.
 
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