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Black Male Murders White Police Officer -Where's The Outrage?

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MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.


If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer. Want to throw out some guesses?
 
1. the perpetrator will be persecuted to the extent of the law. there is no need for outrage because he will punished (unlike Zimmerman, etc...)

2. we don't know the facts. the cop could have started the situation. also, Black Men have a right to be afraid of white policemen and act accordingly. this homicide might have been justified if the Man feared for his life

3. To quote Leonard Pitts: "I have four words for any white Americans who feel themselves victimized. Cry me a river."
 
rhinefire said:
MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.
If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer. Want to throw out some guesses?
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Is this controversial somehow?
If it's not controversial, what's there to debate about?
 
rhinefire said:
MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.


If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer.
Want to throw out some guesses?
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My guess is that the guy who did this will be caught and pay a heavy price for this.
 
Harman said:
1. the perpetrator will be persecuted to the extent of the law. there is no need for outrage because he will punished (unlike Zimmerman, etc...)

2. we don't know the facts. the cop could have started the situation. also, Black Men have a right to be afraid of white policemen and act accordingly. this homicide might have been justified if the Man feared for his life

3. To quote Leonard Pitts: "I have four words for any white Americans who feel themselves victimized. Cry me a river."
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And we wonder why racism is still around... a judgement of others exclusively on their skin color proudly used right here for us all to see.
 
Why should there be more outrage if a murder (or any violent crime) victim is a LEO or if the perp is black and the victim is not? This is much like a dog bites man story which is usually newsworthy only if the dog is a pit bull and the victim is a child.

Nobody doubts that police, who encounter criminals on a regular basis, may find themselves in very dangerous situations - that is precisely why they receive special training and are supplied with all manner of special equipment at taxpayer expense. The idea that murder (or violent crime) is newsworthy only if either the victim, the perp or the motive is "special" in some way speaks to just how common murder (or violent crime) is.
 
That's sad. I especially feel bad for the officer's family. At least when it is an officer who is killed the odds of the killer receiving justice are high.
 
rhinefire said:
MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.


If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer. Want to throw out some guesses?
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Why mention it, when people do, what they have been conditioned to do?
 
Harman said:
1. the perpetrator will be persecuted to the extent of the law. there is no need for outrage because he will punished (unlike Zimmerman, etc...)

2. we don't know the facts. the cop could have started the situation. also, Black Men have a right to be afraid of white policemen and act accordingly. this homicide might have been justified if the Man feared for his life

3. To quote Leonard Pitts: "I have four words for any white Americans who feel themselves victimized. Cry me a river."
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1) We do not punish those found not guilty in a court of law.

2) The cop definitely "started the situation" via a traffic stop. Likely that the shooter had drugs, open warrants or some other reason to want to execute the LEO for ruining his perfect day.

3) What gives anyone the right to deny a crime victim respect or empathy based on their race?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Is this controversial somehow?
If it's not controversial, what's there to debate about?
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Some folks think that a criminal committing a crime is comparable to a LE committing a crime, even though, one you expect and the other you don't. ;)
 
rhinefire said:
MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.


If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer. Want to throw out some guesses?
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The colors of the people involved are irrelevant, just like they were in the Michael Brown story, but the race baiters will be race baiters. Your post is as bad as they idiots on the left who brought up race. If I never read "He was white!" or "The black person..." again I'll die a ****ing happy woman.

May that poor officer rest in peace and may the sonofabitch who ended his life get raped with a splintery broom.
 
rhinefire said:
MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.


If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer. Want to throw out some guesses?
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The sort of false equivalency that you're making is rooted in a resentment of the Black Lives Matter movement. You know exactly why there isn't "outrage" over this incident, but you choose to feign ignorance and ask the question anyway because, for some reason, you resent that people are addressing the injustice of anti-blackness and brutality within police forces around the country.
 
rhinefire said:
MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Tennessee police officials say an officer has been fatally shot during a traffic stop in Memphis.
Memphis Police Director Toney Armstrong says police received a call at about 9:15 p.m. Saturday about an officer being shot. Armstrong says the officer was conducting a traffic stop when he was shot multiple times. The officer died at a hospital.
Armstrong did not identify the officer, pending notification of next of kin.
Armstrong says police have not made an arrest and the suspect is on the run. He said police are using all available resources to find the shooter.
It is the third Memphis officer to be fatally shot since July 2011. Armstrong said officers are grieving, adding that "this is just a reminder of how dangerous" the job is.


If you don't see the fact that the murderer is black then look it up. The officer was an Iraq war vet, father and on the force for five years. I wonder how the murderers biography compares to the slain officer. Want to throw out some guesses?
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1) Conservatives are race baiters.
2) How many citizens have been killed by police in Memphis since July 2011?
 
BrewerBob said:
That's sad. I especially feel bad for the officer's family. At least when it is an officer who is killed the odds of the killer receiving justice are high.
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Do you actually see this (bolded above) as a good thing? That alone screams "just us" rather than justice - which I find to be a very, very bad thing. The idea of having special victims and special perps contradicts equal protection of the law.


Your statement is dangerously close to:

At least when the crime victim is rich and white (or not poor and black?) then the odds of arrest and conviction increase.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Do you actually see this (bolded above) as a good thing? That alone screams "just us" rather than justice - which I find to be a very, very bad thing. The idea of having special victims and special perps contradicts equal protection of the law.


Your statement is dangerously close to:

At least when the crime victim is rich and white (or not poor and black?) then the odds of arrest and conviction increase.
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Yes, I find bringing murderers to justice a good thing. Of course I do think we should strive for that same level of justice for everyone.
 
US Conservative said:
Cops lives matter, leftists.
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Well there are dumb posts, and then again there are ones like you that leave a person reaching for a more descriptive term. And then you bring in partisan politics.
 
BrewerBob said:
Yes, I find bringing murderers to justice a good thing. Of course I do think we should strive for that same level of justice for everyone.
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Now you are changing your tune. Initially you were celebrating the idea that the crime victim being a police officer increases the odds of justice by saying:

At least when it is an officer who is killed the odds of the killer receiving justice are high.
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That obviously implies that "the odds" are lower for non-officer victim's receiving justice.
 
Only Black Lives Matter.
 
That's how Cons see it, hence strawman threads like this, all butthurt because their pet preference isn't special. The original slogan was saying that Black lives matter too, not that others don't. Others (Such as policemen!) are perceived as mattering more, while blacks are disposable. The protests were saying "No more! Our lives have equal value."
 
If theres anyone the justice system gives a free pass to, it's cop killers. :roll:
 
Because we expect that, on occasion, police officers will be attacked and possibly killed in the line of duty. We do not expect that innocent citizens will be attacked, and killed, to the extent that we have seen in this country. Particularly when this problem seems especially severe within a specific community (the black community). One is a tragedy, the other is not only a tragedy--it is alarming.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Now you are changing your tune. Initially you were celebrating the idea that the crime victim being a police officer increases the odds of justice by saying:



That obviously implies that "the odds" are lower for non-officer victim's receiving justice.
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Not celebrating. I am just less concerned about the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. And the odds ARE lower for non-officer victims receiving justice. That isn't fair by any means but it is reality.
 
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