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Certainly lots of adulterers are just wanting to get some on the side. But I have also known people who were in loveless marriages and just longed for physical contact. On top of that they didn't want to divorce until their children were grown and out of the house. Life can get complicated.

Kobie said:

I guess being "morally bankrupt" means your personal info is fair game!

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Only if you have the twisted logic that its ok to do illegal things to bad people.

Ashley Madison's data breach is everyone's problem .....

Collecting and retaining user data is the norm in modern web businesses, and while it's usually invisible, the result for Ashley Madison has been catastrophic. In hindsight, we can point to data that should have been anonymized or connections that should have been less accessible, but the biggest problem is deeper and more universal. If services want to offer genuine privacy, they have to break away from those practices, interrogating every element of their service as a potential security problem. Ashley Madison didn't do that. The service was engineered and arranged like dozens of other modern web sites — and by following those rules, the company made a breach like this inevitable.

The most obvious example of this is Ashley Madison's password reset feature. It works just like dozens of other password resets you've seen: you enter in your email, and if you're in the database, they'll send a link to create a new password. As developer Troy Hunt points out, it also shows you a slightly different message if the email really is in the database. The result is that, if you want to find out if your husband is looking for dates on Ashley Madison, all you have to do is plug in his email and see which page you get.

But while Ashley Madison made a bad, painful error by openly retaining that much data, it’s not the only company that’s making that mistake. We expect modern web companies to collect and retain data on their users, even when they have no reason to. The expectation hits every level, from the way sites are funded to the way they're engineered. It rarely backfires, but when it does, it can be a nightmare for companies and users alike. For Ashley Madison, it may be that the company didn't truly consider privacy until it was too late.....snip~

Ashley Madison's data breach is everyone's problem | The Verge


As you can see it does present a bigger problem.....when it comes to leaving a digital footprint. Access to you is access to others. Even on other social sites that don't have anything to do with dating and or hook up sites. All from setting up their systems the same way.

BrewerBob said:

Certainly lots of adulterers are just wanting to get some on the side. But I have also known people who were in loveless marriages and just longed for physical contact. On top of that they didn't want to divorce until their children were grown and out of the house. Life can get complicated.

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Only for people with the IQ of a rock or those who are unable to deal with the consequences of thier actions

Zinthaniel said:

The joys of living in a black and white world ... oh wait.

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some people take their vows seriously

others, apparently not

and imo if you want to stray, get the hell out of the marriage

never a GOOD reason for infidelity

Scrabaholic said:

Ashley Madison - an online cheating site - has been hacked - Jul. 20, 2015

Hacking is wrong and I hope they find him/her/them. However, I don't have much, if any, sympathy for the clients.

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I guess what surprises me is anyone in 2015 thinking any of the information they post online is secure. If I was thinking of using the site, I'd just assume that my name was subject to disclosure to my wife and others and behave accordingly.

Crovax said:

Only for people with the IQ of a rock or those who are unable to deal with the consequences of thier actions

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I am happy you have such a simple life. I hope it continues that way.

JasperL said:

I guess what surprises me is anyone in 2015 thinking any of the information they post online is secure. If I was thinking of using the site, I'd just assume that my name was subject to disclosure to my wife and others and behave accordingly.

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Right? And even if it wasn't hacked what is to stop the person you met on there from blackmailing you?

BrewerBob said:

Certainly lots of adulterers are just wanting to get some on the side. But I have also known people who were in loveless marriages and just longed for physical contact. On top of that they didn't want to divorce until their children were grown and out of the house. Life can get complicated.

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If you handle the divorce right the kids will be fine, but it does no favors for anyone to stay together.

Cardinal said:

Again...generally true. But people can be trapped in marriages for one reason or another. It happens.

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If that the case then they have nothing to worry about. If their conscience is clear there is no issue. Karma's a bitch, isn't it? But hey, there is no God, morality is subjective, blah blah blah.

BrewerBob said:

Right? And even if it wasn't hacked what is to stop the person you met on there from blackmailing you?

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Or my wife breaking into my computer, or phone, or hiring someone to do it, etc. Not that she'd have a problem now... we have the same passwords...

I guess I'm a little torn on the whole thing. As I said, expecting privacy from a cheating website seems a bit naive, and if revealing the affairs matters to your marriage, you're lying on a regular basis to your spouse. So in many ways the users have made a choice to lie and cheat and hopefully recognized and accepted the big potential downsides of that, and as a general rule blaming someone else for revealing your lies isn't gong to merit a lot of sympathy from me in most cases.

I can see the exceptions, though. Others have mentioned a few, and I'm guessing a lot of users put their name out there and haven't done anything with it but maybe liven up their dreary days responding to emails from interested members of the opposite sex. I can see how it might be a sort of therapy even short of an actual affair. Etc. So I'm sure if I got the list I'd trash it and then take what meager steps I have to permanently shred the trash. But it's still a tough group of victims to get very concerned about.

tech30528 said:

If that the case then they have nothing to worry about. If their conscience is clear there is no issue. Karma's a bitch, isn't it? But hey, there is no God, morality is subjective, blah blah blah.

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There consciences are clear when their names get released?

About 10 years ago my wife asked me if I was cheating on her. I asked her, "Why in the hell would I want two women bitching at me?"

Cardinal said:

Again...generally true. But people can be trapped in marriages for one reason or another. It happens.

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Being "trapped" in a marriage is no excuse for adultery. It only ends in hurt for everyone involved. The only good of it is the temporary funsies for the adulterer, which does nothing to alleviate the awful marriage situation. Only separation will do that.

If someone wants to commit adultery, there's no shortage of excuses, that's for sure. (Some posters imply it's men who do it, and while most may be men, women commit adultery, too. Husbands would be surprised.)

While hardly a group easy to sympathize with (nor do I), it also doesn't mean their information should be unwillingly leaked because someone disagrees with their actions.

Especially considering it's addresses and potentially credit card numbers (the demand didn't explain if the "transactions," would just be like receipts or actually have information like the full CC #), sexual fantasies which A) Should be no ones damn business unless the person wants them to know and B) You know damn well people are going to get fired because if/when it's leaked because the boss disagrees with their BDSM or foot or any number of fetishes.

Even if we ignore the people using the site or that they deserve it, what about the employee documents they are going to release? Do now the people working for the company also somehow deserve it? Hell, reading Krebs, it sounds like the company thinks it was a former employee or contractor so is that person going to release their own details to also punish themselves for doing work for the company (I doubt it).

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I have very very strong feelings on putting people information out in the open against their will, if you couldn't tell.

JumpinJack said:

Being "trapped" in a marriage is no excuse for adultery. It only ends in hurt for everyone involved. The only good of it is the temporary funsies for the adulterer, which does nothing to alleviate the awful marriage situation. Only separation will do that.

If someone wants to commit adultery, there's no shortage of excuses, that's for sure. (Some posters imply it's men who do it, and while most may be men, women commit adultery, too. Husbands would be surprised.)

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While you're almost certainly correct in the majority of cases, I can't consider myself enough of an authority to make such a blanket assessment for everyone.

Zinthaniel said:

The joys of living in a black and white world ... oh wait.

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Marriage vows usually don't include non-monogamous relationships. Just sayin...

Μολὼν λαβέ;1064849791 said:

Marriage vows usually don't include non-monogamous relationships. Just sayin...

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Marriage vows are black and white - life, the world, and the many nuanced circumstances you must navigate through or not.

I've never been married nor have I cheated, but I'm not going to sit her and pretend that there is absolutely no circumstance that would lead some, justifiably, to stray away from their vow. It happens. That is how life works. So I reserve my judgment of anybody case by case.