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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Burning a flag isn't really speech. It's an action and those veterans reacted. I don't like violence much either. People should stay out of your personal space I reckon.

    But think about it, do these politicals even know what they want? These people spend their lives psychologically bullying any one whos vulnerable, goodhearted and sensible. I think they got their just desserts.
    What people are "bullying" who?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    Burning a flag isn't really speech. It's an action and those veterans reacted. I don't like violence much either. People should stay out of your personal space I reckon.
    An action is certainly free speech. You have a right to act like a jackass in public. You have a right to do a whole of actions thanks to free speech. Flag Burning has happened to be an action that is ruled as free speech whether the bikers like it or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    But think about it, do these politicals even know what they want? These people spend their lives psychologically bullying any one whos vulnerable, goodhearted and sensible. I think they got their just desserts.
    No, the protesters most certainly did not get their just desserts. They didn't attack anybody, they didn't harm anyone for speaking out against them or what they stand for. They were attacked and forced into silence by a group of stupid men and the fact you don't want to speak out against that but rather victim blame is rather telling of your character.

    But you know what, lets say you're right. Burning a flag totally warrants hairy men in leather jackets slapping you around. Do you think a Muslim is in the right to slap a person around if that individual mocked Mohammad? Do you think a gay man or woman can attack a priest for preaching that homosexuality is a sin? Where do you draw your moral line against free speech?
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    Violence is a funny thing. Being bullied and getting my butt kicked when I was a fat kid was not fun and cause a lot of scars. When I learned to use my weight and size to stop bullies from kicking my butt it was a good thing. It is like anything else. It can be terrible or it can be a most useful tool. Karma can be a bitch. I guess you have to experience it to understand it. When someone says "all violence is bad" I recognize someone that has led a very sheltered lice or a person that has chosen to roll over and accept what is being done to them. The only fight I have ever lost in my life was the one that I started and I deserved that one. I am excluding the times I got my butt whipped when I didn't stand up for myself.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup. Had some next door.
    Let me assure you I, alive as a hippie during this time, never burned a flag, never spit in the face of a soldier, never protested our military and showered daily. Me and my hippie friends also held a job, bought houses and had families. I guess all stereotypes don't always work.

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    If the C.S.A survived the Civil War it was doomed to start a new one between the Confederate States. They would have seceded from the C.S.A. lol
    Yup, most likely. Frankly, that's evident just from each of the different states' declarations of secession.

    Some of them, like Mississippi and Texas, waxed high and mighty about the "nobility" of slavery and white domination of lesser races, before diving into Constitutional and economic manners. Some others, like Georgia and South Carolina, gave slavery passing mention, but mostly stuck to economics, or legal and political grievances concerning property rights, trade, and alleged Northern tyranny. Virginia, for its own part, didn't even mention slavery at all.

    It's fairly clear that, economically, socially, and ideologically speaking, every state in the Confederacy wasn't "on the same page," so to speak, where the issue was concerned. While it's possible that economic developments might have simply rendered the plantation system too inefficient to be profitable after a certain point, the transition was always going to be rough (they had it written into their Constitution that no law against slavery could be passed, for God's sakes).

    Frankly, even if it was done away with, it's exceedingly likely that the South might have simply wound up with a system like South African Apartheid. Hell! The Segregation that existed in our own timeline was basically akin to what South Africa possessed already.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

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    I will add you to the list of fascists.
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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    An action is certainly free speech. You have a right to act like a jackass in public. You have a right to do a whole of actions thanks to free speech. Flag Burning has happened to be an action that is ruled as free speech whether the bikers like it or not.



    No, the protesters most certainly did not get their just desserts. They didn't attack anybody, they didn't harm anyone for speaking out against them or what they stand for. They were attacked and forced into silence by a group of stupid men and the fact you don't want to speak out against that but rather victim blame is rather telling of your character.

    But you know what, lets say you're right. Burning a flag totally warrants hairy men in leather jackets slapping you around. Do you think a Muslim is in the right to slap a person around if that individual mocked Mohammad? Do you think a gay man or woman can attack a priest for preaching that homosexuality is a sin? Where do you draw your moral line against free speech?
    I just hate politicals.

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unicron View Post
    I just hate politicals.
    I hate religion, but you will never see me advocate or condone violence against religious gatherings. Just because you hate something doesn't mean it should be harmed or attacked.
    The risk I took was calculated but man, am I bad at math.

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What people are "bullying" who?
    Those protesters. Haven't any of you actually met these crazos?

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    Re: Flag burners get attacked by bikers

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Black and white thinking would be profiling all bikers as being bad people.
    No one did that. Read carefully, there's nothing akin to an "all" in my post, and what I posted clearly resembles the criminals that attacked people doing nothing at all that would justify a self-defense plea by the bikers or merited a violent attack by the bikers, hence these bikers are clearly part of the "quite often" referred to when I referred to biker GANGS, not bikers.
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