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Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

Ok, now you're diminishing the importance of applying quality hard work on the diplomatic level, even mocking it by pointing to Hitler, very nice.

Not at all. But talent, as fine as it is for career advancement is a double edged sword and in no way a guarantor of happy times. If the system is geared to periodic wars, the talented will more often than not profit by the chaos, but will not prevent it.
 
You think? Are you sure?

I even disclosed the Iranian top secret weapon the "G54-Top Cursing Laser Gun."

That would be deployed on a merchant ship, ;).
 
Not at all. But talent, as fine as it is for career advancement is a double edged sword and in no way a guarantor of happy times. If the system is geared to periodic wars, the talented will more often than not profit by the chaos, but will not prevent it.

Like I'm going to disagree with you that our wars over the past decades weren't about profit.
 
Like I'm going to disagree with you that our wars over the past decades weren't about profit.

Economics is arguably the prime motivation for humans to organize themselves in groups and build civilizations. Why would I argue with such an elementary statement, other than maybe that it is deceptive in the way you make it.
 
Economics is arguably the prime motivation for humans to organize themselves in groups and build civilizations. Why would I argue with such an elementary statement, other than maybe that it is deceptive in the way you make it.

Wait a minute, I agreed with you so this post makes literally no sense to me????
 
Wait a minute, I agreed with you so this post makes literally no sense to me????

Okay. If you meant it in a very wide sense, I misunderstood you. Sorry.
 
What purpose does this ally serve other than to embroil you in its conflicts with its neighbours ?

They serve as an outpost of western ideals in anotherwise western adverse part of the world. It is a very important and strategic outpost that will be used if there is ever a world conflict over the ME like there was during the cold war. They are our hedge against Russian influence in the ME as well as an expanding Islamic state.
 
They serve as an outpost of western ideals in anotherwise western adverse part of the world. It is a very important and strategic outpost that will be used if there is ever a world conflict over the ME like there was during the cold war. They are our hedge against Russian influence in the ME as well as an expanding Islamic state.

Totally true, the very creation of the state of Israel was a practicality for the West that had no bearing whatsoever on the plight of the Jewish people, a fine expedience.
 
They serve as an outpost of western ideals in anotherwise western adverse part of the world. It is a very important and strategic outpost that will be used if there is ever a world conflict over the ME like there was during the cold war. They are our hedge against Russian influence in the ME as well as an expanding Islamic state.

Its a horrendous liability by whatever measure you choose to judge it by. Whats wrong with your psyche here ? This relationship serves you no strategic, economic, military or most importantly political advantage in any way whatsoever so why do you pursue it with such blind fervour.

Other than it making you a target for every Muslim fanatic going what are you getting out of this ?
 
Its a horrendous liability by whatever measure you choose to judge it by. Whats wrong with your psyche here ? This relationship serves you no strategic, economic, military or most importantly political advantage in any way whatsoever so why do you pursue it with such blind fervour.

Other than it making you a target for every Muslim fanatic going what are you getting out of this ?

We have a central and direct location in order to land troops and military hardware in the event of a conflict in the ME. Only people who don't understand geopolitics would say what you said. I certainly don't have time to educate people on it. All I will say is, read up on cold war geopolitics and educate yourself on the strategic interests both sides were fighting for and why, then you will understand why the US supports Israel. Once you have read and educated yourself on that, you should read the about how geopolitics effected WW1 and WW2 as well as how it determined who emerged as the economic powerhouses after those conflicts. The problem here is that people don't know, or simply choose to ignore the context of past political decisions, as well as how those decisions still effect us today.
 
What purpose does this ally serve other than to embroil you in its conflicts with its neighbours ?

What purpose do you expect them to serve? They are an ally that are continually attacked and threatened by other nations in the middle east. Now, our president is negotiating with one of those nations, releasing billions of dollars to them and allowing them to continue to work toward a nuclear bomb.
 
There's no need for Iran to be an enemy. But toppling their government, arming their enemy with WMD that was used on them, waging economic warfare on them, giving Israel bunker busters to use on them...........I guess you can create yourself quite the enemy. As for Israel, Obama and Carter seem the only two so far willing to hold them at least somewhat accountable.

They are an enemy because they want to be an enemy. "Death to America!" Hmmm, what do they mean by that? Sorry, but if you are an enemy of ours, don't expect nice things from us. Until, that is, moron Obama decided to sell us out to these bastards.
 
Can you back your claim?

Lasers are serious deals kid. Ask me how I know.

Kid? lol... You better be like... 80...

And yes, I've played with some pretty serious sodium argon lasers... And smaller systems meant to blind groups...

And no, it's purely fun speculation based upon this dangerous threat being from a merchant vessel. Also based on these tidbits...

The government is never going to tell you what was really going on.
Çertain vested interests in the media will blow anything out of proportion, sensation sells..

These days, I tend to take everything with a 35 lb grain of salt, a spoonful of sugar and count to a hundred before I react to anything being trumpeted from any commercial media.
 
Kid? lol... You better be like... 80...

And yes, I've played with some pretty serious sodium argon lasers... And smaller systems meant to blind groups...

And no, it's purely fun speculation based upon this dangerous threat being from a merchant vessel. Also based on these tidbits...

The government is never going to tell you what was really going on.
Çertain vested interests in the media will blow anything out of proportion, sensation sells..

These days, I tend to take everything with a 35 lb grain of salt, a spoonful of sugar and count to a hundred before I react to anything being trumpeted from any commercial media.

I see, so your views of your nations relationship with Iran is "fun speculation".

Yeah, thats real fun buddy. Look how fun this is.

Hypernatremia..lolz.
 
I see, so your views of your nations relationship with Iran is "fun speculation".

Yeah, thats real fun buddy. Look how fun this is.

Hypernatremia..lolz.

No no, you misunderstand, I find the hyperbolic paranoid freakouts hilarious...

I find the tragic US meddling in their sovereign affairs for seven decades or so... very serious.
 
Simpleχity;1064807492 said:
Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser



As another Vienna nuclear-deadline comes and goes, these clowns are painting US warships with laser designators.

The American ship should have taken it as an act of aggression fired on the Iranian ship. Not enough to sink it but enough to let them know that it was a joke that was not so funny.
 
I say let Trump start sounding off on the Iranians. Then they wont be the only ones doing the **** talkin.

Give those mopes something to think about.

Hell, put Trump on the team from the State Department. Can you imagine Trump and Kerry together talking to someone? It would be epic boredom and egomania all wrapped up in one. It would drive them nuts. I can see the Iranians wondering what the hell is wrong with "these damn Americans".
 
Hell, put Trump on the team from the State Department. Can you imagine Trump and Kerry together talking to someone? It would be epic boredom and egomania all wrapped up in one. It would drive them nuts. I can see the Iranians wondering what the hell is wrong with "these damn Americans".

Good cop bad cop? Seems like an idea.
 
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