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Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

Simpleχity;1064807492 said:
Iran-flagged ship targets U.S. Navy with laser

As another Vienna nuclear-deadline comes and goes, these clowns are painting US warships with laser designators.

And the US aint? Come on get freaking real here. The US is fly drones and spy planes over Iran, violating their air space and territory on a daily basis and no one mentions this.. and yet Iran targets maybe one of the US ships and it is all "OMFGS"? Talk about partisan bull**** outrage and hypocrisy.
 
And the US aint? Come on get freaking real here. The US is fly drones and spy planes over Iran, violating their air space and territory on a daily basis and no one mentions this.. and yet Iran targets maybe one of the US ships and it is all "OMFGS"? Talk about partisan bull**** outrage and hypocrisy.

I mention that all the time, but it's just dismissed as America hatred. Maybe you'll have better luck Pete.
 
Maybe the sanctions should be reinstated and be done with this rogue state once and for all

Iran is simply attempting to achieve at the negotiating table what they can't militarily. I agree. Just stop playing patty cake with these assholes and be done with them. There is no need for military action if the people in DC only had a brain.
 
I mention that all the time, but it's just dismissed as America hatred. Maybe you'll have better luck Pete.

Yea and pigs fly and Santa Claus is real. Most Americans dont understand how their nation violates other nations on a daily basis with drones, hacking, kidnapping, and killings, but when suddenly their personal information is stolen or their military is "painted" then it is all "payback time, lets bomb them" bull****... and we in the rest of the world are not allowed to react to their abuses against us. Hypocrisy at its best.
 
Maybe the sanctions should be reinstated and be done with this rogue state once and for all

Cmon now.....if we do that, then we wont have our Iranian cheerleaders out with their pom poms. Wont be able to afford their uniforms.
 
Maybe the sanctions should be reinstated and be done with this rogue state once and for all

Greetings, F&L. :2wave:

Have they already lifted them? I was under the impression that wasn't going to happen till later. Wouldn't surprise me though if they were!
 
They tried that with shooting down their civilian airliners back in 1988. Lockerbie six months later was their answer

You think that the airliner was the same thing? Didn't they even get compensate the passengers' estates? If I recall that was at a much higher rate than probably usual in Iran or Germany for that matter. But you really think Lockerbie was a tit for tat action?
Anyway. If that is what they do, escalate and make a demonstration that scares the world. Be very open about it ans explain that it is plain deterrent. Unless we get the UN to guarantee international security robustly, we will have to resort to that type of thing within about 10 years anyway. So why not save ourselves the cash and do it now? The advantage would be that like after Iraq2 the membership of the UN would be more willing to do things they are otherwise reluctant to commit to, as the 2005 r2p norm change showed.
 
Meh, why stop there. I would tell them if it happens again. I will remove a city off of their map for each time they act like they want to do something.

What can they do about it but whine and cry.

I think that it may come to that in one country or another within 10 years or so. But I think I would wait for a real strike before openly obliterating anything other than a military installation that was a clear and present danger to an asset.
 
You think that the airliner was the same thing? Didn't they even get compensate the passengers' estates? If I recall that was at a much higher rate than probably usual in Iran or Germany for that matter. But you really think Lockerbie was a tit for tat action?
Anyway. If that is what they do, escalate and make a demonstration that scares the world. Be very open about it ans explain that it is plain deterrent. Unless we get the UN to guarantee international security robustly, we will have to resort to that type of thing within about 10 years anyway. So why not save ourselves the cash and do it now? The advantage would be that like after Iraq2 the membership of the UN would be more willing to do things they are otherwise reluctant to commit to, as the 2005 r2p norm change showed.

Russia and China will likely be vetoing any further military adventurism that the US comes asking permission for. That's going to be the consequences of abusing prior permissions.
 
Iran is simply attempting to achieve at the negotiating table what they can't militarily. I agree. Just stop playing patty cake with these assholes and be done with them. There is no need for military action if the people in DC only had a brain.

Heya HB. :2wave: Its a new day and age.....we can order one online for them. It would be artificial, even look just like theirs. :2razz:
 
I think that it may come to that in one country or another within 10 years or so. But I think I would wait for a real strike before openly obliterating anything other than a military installation that was a clear and present danger to an asset.

Yeah I don't see it happening to Russia, China, N. Korea, or Pakistan. So guess who that leaves out in the cold. :mrgreen:
 
Russia and China will likely be vetoing any further military adventurism that the US comes asking permission for. That's going to be the consequences of abusing prior permissions.

I am afraid that the SC is becoming rapidly redundant. In a case like the targeting a military vessel you would not go to the SC to ask. You would obliterate it on the spot.

If the country retaliated in some way, the SC again is no longer of any help. And as it does not guarantee the security of the members and especially populations, it is more a danger to world peace than the help it was in the post 1950 era. Nobody is saying this out loud yet, but that was the reason for the 2005 shift in focus, which has faded somewhat now. And if we cannot get the UN filling the policing job, there will be major war in any event within thirty five or so years. That is almost inescapable and diplomacy cannot prevent it indefinitely, though, there are some dinosaurs that think it possible.
 
I am afraid that the SC is becoming rapidly redundant. In a case like the targeting a military vessel you would not go to the SC to ask. You would obliterate it on the spot.

If the country retaliated in some way, the SC again is no longer of any help. And as it does not guarantee the security of the members and especially populations, it is more a danger to world peace than the help it was in the post 1950 era. Nobody is saying this out loud yet, but that was the reason for the 2005 shift in focus, which has faded somewhat now. And if we cannot get the UN filling the policing job, there will be major war in any event within thirty five or so years. That is almost inescapable and diplomacy cannot prevent it indefinitely, though, there are some dinosaurs that think it possible.

To the bolded lol, yeah about as rapidly as they've been telling the US no more gratuitous wars. As to the rest of the sentence, obviously not, for that's not what happened.

And as to the importance or relevance of the UNSC, it sure has been stated out loud, by George Bush too. Remember when he told the UN to get beside us or get behind us?
 
To the bolded lol, yeah about as rapidly as they've been telling the US no more gratuitous wars. As to the rest of the sentence, obviously not, for that's not what happened.

And as to the importance or relevance of the UNSC, it sure has been stated out loud, by George Bush too. Remember when he told the UN to get beside us or get behind us?

Actually he said that the UN should enforce, what the SC had formulated in the Resolution must be done. Lacking that it would be redundant. Which it was then and is now rapidly becoming in general. This is very bad in a way, but it is also inevitable. A regulator that does not enforce its regulation is worse than no regulator at all, because it confuses the issues.
 
Actually he said that the UN should enforce, what the SC had formulated in the Resolution must be done. Lacking that it would be redundant. Which it was then and is now rapidly becoming in general. This is very bad in a way, but it is also inevitable. A regulator that does not enforce its regulation is worse than no regulator at all, because it confuses the issues.

The UN has no enforcement arm.
 
It is only a matter of time before someone fires, Iran seems to want to just as much as the US does.

Iran seems to want to just as much as the US does: no offense: but that is the classical sentence you could hear from any rapist.
 
Iran seems to want to just as much as the US does: no offense: but that is the classical sentence you could hear from any rapist.

Spare me the no offense bull ****, it is exactly what you wanted to convey.
 
I missed the part where I said the U.S. always tells the truth.

Isn't great that the leftists here are so quick to take Iran's side and be against our country? God, one wonders what the hell goes on in those minds, if anything of substance.

Yeah, Iran is the one fighting for truth and freedom, we are just a bad actor in bothering a poor, innocent, good natured country like Iran. They are just a force for good, and we are getting in the way. Jeez.
 
Isn't great that the leftists here are so quick to take Iran's side and be against our country? God, one wonders what the hell goes on in those minds, if anything of substance.

Yeah, Iran is the one fighting for truth and freedom, we are just a bad actor in bothering a poor, innocent, good natured country like Iran. They are just a force for good, and we are getting in the way. Jeez.


Cmon now Anthony.....they wear White Hats, and Pray a lot. :2razz:
 
Greetings, F&L. :2wave:

Have they already lifted them? I was under the impression that wasn't going to happen till later. Wouldn't surprise me though if they were!



I do believe all this started with Obama giving back several hundred billion in sanctioned funds. And the oil is now flowing to Europe again so they are happy
 
The UN has no enforcement arm.

That is part of the problem that it could, however, get around, if we all agreed on a robust and dependable method.
 
But you really think Lockerbie was a tit for tat action?

Do you really believe it was just a coincidence in the very same year ...... really ?

Anyway. If that is what they do, escalate and make a demonstration that scares the world. Be very open about it ans explain that it is plain deterrent. Unless we get the UN to guarantee international security robustly, we will have to resort to that type of thing within about 10 years anyway. So why not save ourselves the cash and do it now? The advantage would be that like after Iraq2 the membership of the UN would be more willing to do things they are otherwise reluctant to commit to, as the 2005 r2p norm change showed.

Painting something with a laser RF isn't any kind of security threat to anyone however much the US would like to talk it up as such
 
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