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Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours [W: 64]

Why don't poor people just buy more money?

Lol...

The problem isn't that we aren't working enough. The problem is that we (the 99%) are not earning in proportion to our productivity.
 
This only shows how utterly out of touch he is with the reality of people's situations.
 
Um, many businesses cut hours to avoid paying people overtime, benefits etc...
 
In February:

“For several years now, they have been recklessly degrading the value of work, the incentive to work, and the rewards of work. We have seen them cut the definition of a full-time job from 40 to 30 hours, slashing the ability of paycheck earners to make ends meet," he said. "We have seen them create welfare programs and tax rules that punish people with lost benefits and higher taxes for moving up those first few rungs of the economic ladder.”

Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours - ABC News

Error in wording? Yes. Will it be costly? Very possibly. It fits within a common trope about the GOP and conservatives in general: they don't care about the working man.

Is he saying what people accuse him of saying? No. Anyone who has been following his and most Republican races knows that since the passage of the ACA (let alone the crowd that Bush hangs around with), a common talking point has been about an unintended consequence of the ACA's employer requirements.
 
Well, given how a vast portion of the jobs that have been "created" have been part time, my initial guess would be that he was referring to 40 hours.

Anyone who has been reading the pages of National Affairs over the past 6 years and are aware of Yuval Levin, April and Ramesh Ponnuru knows where Jeb is getting some of his biggest arguments.
 
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Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.

Read the article here: http://new.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people-longer-hours-235206730.html

Does anyone on this forum agree with Mr.Bush?

I don't. I'm retired now but most of my life I worked 7-days on, 7-days off, 12 hours a day. That's an 84 hour week. How many more hours does this guy think that I should have worked?

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"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
Maybe it's that new math but aren't all hours the same length?
 
Anyone who has been reading the pages of National Affairs over the past 6 years and are aware of Yuval Levin, April and Ramesh Ponnuru knows where Jeb is getting some of his biggest arguments.

The toilet?
 
Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.

Read the article here: http://new.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people-longer-hours-235206730.html

Does anyone on this forum agree with Mr.Bush?

I don't. I'm retired now but most of my life I worked 7-days on, 7-days off, 12 hours a day. That's an 84 hour week. How many more hours does this guy think that I should have worked?

:lol:




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

“My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours” and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.”

I can't see what the problem is. I don't claim to have any great economic insights, and there may be a another way to achieve a 4% growth rate, other than working more hours. But a sustained 4% growth rate over 5-6 years would dramatically increase government revenues and improve the finances of at least those putting in the longer hours. Clearly those people with larger paychecks will increase their demand and create additional employment opportunities for those currently without work. Yes I would prefer that the 4% growth rate could be achieved primarily by employing those currently seeking work, but I don't know how that would happen and I haven't heard of anything. Although DOA in either party, a good hard look at "free trade" might do wonders to increase employment and market driven wage increases. Before the long partisan knives get drawn, I fully recognize that a large portion of our society is working at jobs with wages so low that even after 40 hours, they may not have made it to poverty level, and don't have any benefits. But that's something else entirely.
 
“My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours” and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.”

I can't see what the problem is. I don't claim to have any great economic insights, and there may be a another way to achieve a 4% growth rate, other than working more hours. But a sustained 4% growth rate over 5-6 years would dramatically increase government revenues and improve the finances of at least those putting in the longer hours. Clearly those people with larger paychecks will increase their demand and create additional employment opportunities for those currently without work. Yes I would prefer that the 4% growth rate could be achieved primarily by employing those currently seeking work, but I don't know how that would happen and I haven't heard of anything. Although DOA in either party, a good hard look at "free trade" might do wonders to increase employment and market driven wage increases. Before the long partisan knives get drawn, I fully recognize that a large portion of our society is working at jobs with wages so low that even after 40 hours, they may not have made it to poverty level, and don't have any benefits. But that's something else entirely.

We've already had free trade of goods for decades. Recent "free trade" agreements threaten sovereignty and change the way that capital can be imported or exported.

Our country is dramatically more productive than it was years ago. The problem is that the people who work to produce have not had their compensation increased to match the increase in production. This is because the people who own the means of production are siphoning away the wealth to their own coffers, because there's nothing stopping them, and there's a huge amount of unemployment which they abuse to keep wages down.
 
Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.
The only people that seem that seem to have a problem with it are those whining about the Koch brothers, Saudi oil barons, and the evil 1% that have created a nation of serfs to accomplish their dirty deeds. I don't know that he's really hoping to reach those people.
 
The only people that seem that seem to have a problem with it are those whining about the Koch brothers, Saudi oil barons, and the evil 1% that have created a nation of serfs to accomplish their dirty deeds. I don't know that he's really hoping to reach those people.

Who is he hoping to reach? The gullible nitwits who think George W. Bush was a good president?
 
We've already had free trade of goods for decades. Recent "free trade" agreements threaten sovereignty and change the way that capital can be imported or exported.

Our country is dramatically more productive than it was years ago. The problem is that the people who work to produce have not had their compensation increased to match the increase in production. This is because the people who own the means of production are siphoning away the wealth to their own coffers, because there's nothing stopping them, and there's a huge amount of unemployment which they abuse to keep wages down.

We have very different views of free trade. While it really hasn't changed much over time, IMO free trade means finds the place on the planet that pays the labor least to produce labor intensive goods. As such "free trade" shifts all non localized low skilled labor intensive work out of the country.... there is simply no way to compete with a couple bucks or less an hour for manufacturing. So what did we replace that work with for our lower skilled. More McDonalds??? In the 50s, 60s, 70s, we benefitted from being the only major economy that wasn't ravaged by the war except in part GB. During those times, the low skilled labor market was tight and market demand for labor drove the wages. With recovery of the worlds economies, institution of free trade, large scale "immigration" of low skilled labor from Mexico, our low skilled labor force has been glutted, and has to compete with a few billion people willing to work for almost anything they can get. I am not suggesting this situation is survivable for our lower skilled, but the reality is any job offering $9.00 dollars an hour, will draw long lines at least where I live..... if that isn't a glut of labor I don't know what is.
 
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Hey Jeb, why don't you get a farkin clue and sit on it and rotate.
 
“My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours” and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in.”

I can't see what the problem is.
I don't claim to have any great economic insights, and there may be a another way to achieve a 4% growth rate, other than working more hours. But a sustained 4% growth rate over 5-6 years would dramatically increase government revenues and improve the finances of at least those putting in the longer hours. Clearly those people with larger paychecks will increase their demand and create additional employment opportunities for those currently without work. Yes I would prefer that the 4% growth rate could be achieved primarily by employing those currently seeking work, but I don't know how that would happen and I haven't heard of anything. Although DOA in either party, a good hard look at "free trade" might do wonders to increase employment and market driven wage increases. Before the long partisan knives get drawn, I fully recognize that a large portion of our society is working at jobs with wages so low that even after 40 hours, they may not have made it to poverty level, and don't have any benefits. But that's something else entirely.



I can't waste my time digging through your bull****.

:lol:

Have a nice day.

Come back when you can be more concise.
 
The only people that seem that seem to have a problem with it are those whining about the Koch brothers, Saudi oil barons, and the evil 1% that have created a nation of serfs to accomplish their dirty deeds.
I don't know that he's really hoping to reach those people.



Next year's election will show that he failed to reach enough voters.

Wait and see.
 
Your post appears to have gone dead, so here is a link to ABC's version of the story.

Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours - ABC News

And it should be noted that it appears this quote could be out of context because he does not specifically note that he is referring to individuals working more than 40 hours, but there is one primary reason why this comment comes off so bad and that is the fact that Americans already work more than any other industrialized nation.

Americans Work More Than Anyone - ABC News

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

It all depends on who you ask and how you ask the question.

In 2012 the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) put the US at 10th in the world. In 2015 the OECD put the US in 12th.

In any case there seems to be no correlation between hours worked a productivity. It seems in many cases longer hours just means lower productivity per hour.
 
Today, Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush, who as of-late has gone relatively gaffe-free, uttered a phrase that may not go over too well with the constituency he wishes to reach.

Read the article here: http://new.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-people-longer-hours-235206730.html

Does anyone on this forum agree with Mr.Bush?

I don't. I'm retired now but most of my life I worked 7-days on, 7-days off, 12 hours a day. That's an 84 hour week. How many more hours does this guy think that I should have worked?

:lol:




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.

Probably off topic, but I think a lot of people would take the one week on, one week off deal and work 84 hours in that one week. It averages out to 42 hours a week. But getting it all done in one week has to have some benefits.
 
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