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Gun used by illigal immigrant in killing belonged to federal agent

what arguments do you have that are factually based?

Lots of people are killed by guns.

edit: five bucks says he acts like this is the only fact
 
Lots of people are killed by guns.

edit: five bucks says he acts like this is the only fact

wrong, lots of people are killed by bullets when other people use a gun to shoot them

again, what arguments do you have>
 
wrong, lots of people are killed by bullets when other people use a gun to shoot them

again, what arguments do you have>

Really? That pedantic **** is your rebuttal? :lamo

Listen, you already outright said you have no interest in any kind of rational discussion on this issue. Stop pretending like you want to hear arguments now.
 
Really? That pedantic **** is your rebuttal? :lamo

Listen, you already outright said you have no interest in any kind of rational discussion on this issue. Stop pretending like you want to hear arguments now.

we all know people kill other people with guns. I am asking you and other gun restrictionists what your plan is to deal with that./ every gun restrictionist scheme I have seen is without any merit
 
we all know people kill other people with guns. I am asking you and other gun restrictionists what your plan is to deal with that./ every gun restrictionist scheme I have seen is without any merit

You've heard all of them. You just dismiss them without consideration. Like all gun fetishists.
 
You've heard all of them. You just dismiss them without consideration. Like all gun fetishists.

see here is the thing

its my position that those who actually spend time advocating for gun restrictions (as opposed to the sheep on the street who tell pollsters they support such laws) do so not because they really want to control crime but rather they don't like the politics of what they perceive gun owners to have and thus want to use gun laws to punish people for having a political agenda foreign to say left-wingers. and when you use moronic insulting terms like "gun fetishists it proves to me that what you really don't like is our pro gun culture. criminals have nothing to do with your desires
 
see here is the thing

its my position that those who actually spend time advocating for gun restrictions (as opposed to the sheep on the street who tell pollsters they support such laws) do so not because they really want to control crime but rather they don't like the politics of what they perceive gun owners to have and thus want to use gun laws to punish people for having a political agenda foreign to say left-wingers. and when you use moronic insulting terms like "gun fetishists it proves to me that what you really don't like is our pro gun culture. criminals have nothing to do with your desires

And it is my position that this is exactly what you do.
 
And it is my position that this is exactly what you do.

that's not an argument. and my point is accurate. nothing you restrictionists advocate has any hope of actually decreasing crime and most of what you advocate has failed. what it has done is harassed honest gun owners.
 
Better question:

Why are conservatives trying to claim this is personally Obama's fault?

I was not aware anyone is claiming that. I think a much more damning case can be made against the San Francisco city government.
 
I agree. Just another conservative playing the race card.

LOL, the race card is played by Obama and his fluffers when Obama goes ballistic over Travon Thuggin getting whacked and he says nary a world about a white woman being killed by a felon who should have been shot on sight the last time he entered this country illegally after being deported several times. You can argue whether or not Travon Thuggin deserved to get shot but there is no doubt the woman in question was murdered pure and simple
 
has there been any new news about how in the hail he got a Fed agent's gun??
 
I was not aware anyone is claiming that. I think a much more damning case can be made against the San Francisco city government.

right you are. but why Does Obama find the killing of a black thug so reprehensible even though a jury exonerated the shooter but he says nothing about a white woman murdered by a pure and complete scumbag
 
that's not an argument. and my point is accurate. nothing you restrictionists advocate has any hope of actually decreasing crime and most of what you advocate has failed. what it has done is harassed honest gun owners.

Your point is accurate? What, the one about personal attacks when you constantly attack the character of "gun grabbers?"
 
Your point is accurate? What, the one about personal attacks when you constantly attack the character of "gun grabbers?"

see, its so tough to get a gun restrictionist to tell us what laws he wants to solve the problems he whine about
 
right you are. but why Does Obama find the killing of a black thug so reprehensible even though a jury exonerated the shooter but he says nothing about a white woman murdered by a pure and complete scumbag

Obviously because focus on this murder would likely be awkward, perhaps even damaging, for the Dem coalition.
 
has there been any new news about how in the hail he got a Fed agent's gun??

maybe federal agents shouldn't be issued guns

after all-if it SAVES ONE LIFE............
 
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