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Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

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It looks like some Christians don't see a problem with approving of same sex marriage. I wonder how many will say this just 'proves' Episcopalians aren't 'real' Christians

Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

SALT LAKE CITY — Episcopalians have voted to allow religious weddings for same-sex couples, just days after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage nationwide.

The vote came Wednesday in Salt Lake City at the denomination's national assembly. The measure passed by an overwhelming margin in the House of Deputies, the voting body of clergy and lay people at the meeting. The day before, the House of Bishops had approved the resolution, 129-26 with five abstaining.
 
Oh, you don't wonder at all; you hope they will. That's the real purpose of this OP.

And all it "proves" is that you know very little about the Episcopal Church and what's been going on since the late '80's and early '90's. Pro-tip: Google " Bishop Spong." This decision is no surprise at all.
 
It looks like some Christians don't see a problem with approving of same sex marriage. I wonder how many will say this just 'proves' Episcopalians aren't 'real' Christians

Christians in name only. If you don't adhere to scripture, you're a fake. The Bible wasn't meant to be redefined or rewritten...only reread.
 
Oh, you don't wonder at all; you hope they will. That's the real purpose of this OP.

And all it "proves" is that you know very little about the Episcopal Church and what's been going on since the late '80's and early '90's. Pro-tip: Google " Bishop Spong." This decision is no surprise at all.

And Google "Bishop Gene Robinson" while he's at it. He was the first elected openly gay Episcopalian Bishop. Right here in New Hampshire.

This ruling is as surprising as the fact that I woke up this morning.
 
Several months ago I attended a family baptism at an Episcopal church. I've been occasionally attending services there for over 25 years. The rector, whoever it was, has always been a woman. The parish is very welcoming, and I love it, and it has always been exceedingly "gay-friendly." I can't imagine anybody being surprised by this decision--certainly not anybody who is aware of the schism in the Episcopal Church.
 
Proud of my church. Although, I'm pretty sure some Episcopal Churches have already been doing this for a while.
 
Christians in name only. If you don't adhere to scripture, you're a fake. The Bible wasn't meant to be redefined or rewritten...only reread.

LOL, I'm pretty sure your church doctrine doesn't adhere to the letter of the scripture and I know you don't. Your church adheres to its interpretation of it, same as the Episcopal church.
 
Several months ago I attended a family baptism at an Episcopal church. I've been occasionally attending services there for over 25 years. The rector, whoever it was, has always been a woman. The parish is very welcoming, and I love it, and it has always been exceedingly "gay-friendly." I can't imagine anybody being surprised by this decision--certainly not anybody who is aware of the schism in the Episcopal Church.

Episcopalian Bishops have had the right to allow SSM in their churches since 2009.
 
LOL, I'm pretty sure your church doctrine doesn't adhere to the letter of the scripture and I know you don't. Your church adheres to its interpretation of it, same as the Episcopal church.

Oh, goody. Let's make this another divisive thread with personal comments. There aren't enough already. :roll:
 
Several months ago I attended a family baptism at an Episcopal church. I've been occasionally attending services there for over 25 years. The rector, whoever it was, has always been a woman. The parish is very welcoming, and I love it, and it has always been exceedingly "gay-friendly." I can't imagine anybody being surprised by this decision--certainly not anybody who is aware of the schism in the Episcopal Church.

I'm not surprised. MY Mil is a closet Liberal who was married to an extreme Conservative until his recent death. She's an Episcopalian who can give communion.
 
LOL, I'm pretty sure your church doctrine doesn't adhere to the letter of the scripture and I know you don't. Your church adheres to its interpretation of it, same as the Episcopal church.

LOL! I don't have a church. For that very reason.
 
I'm not surprised. MY Mil is a closet Liberal who was married to an extreme Conservative until his recent death. She's an Episcopalian who can give communion.

My father used to say that the greatest strength of the Episcopal Church was also its greatest weakness: Its attempts to be all things to all people. So you have those who are "low-church" and who regard themselves as Protestants and call their rectors a "minister" and others who are "High-Church" and regard themselves as "Anglo-Catholic" and call their rectors "Father," and etc.
 
It looks like some Christians don't see a problem with approving of same sex marriage. I wonder how many will say this just 'proves' Episcopalians aren't 'real' Christians

I have to question their religious faith at this point and the fact that they have abandoned God word to make men happy.
there will be a split in the church and people will leave and the church will drop in attendance.

Paul even wrote against this as well.
 
Anyone up for some bacon-wrapped shrimp? It's sacrilicious.
 
LOL, I'm pretty sure your church doctrine doesn't adhere to the letter of the scripture and I know you don't. Your church adheres to its interpretation of it, same as the Episcopal church.

show me the interpretation in the bible that says gay marriage is ok. I will be waiting for proof or evidence.
 
show me the interpretation in the bible that says gay marriage is ok. I will be waiting for proof or evidence.

I should have let the comment slide. One of the great things about the U.S. is we all get to practice our religion according to our own beliefs and consciences. I really have no interest in debating whose interpretation of the 100s of religions and 1,000s of sects is the correct one. The Episcopalians are one of those thousands. Good for them in my view. Others who have different views have many others to choose from.
 
It looks like some Christians don't see a problem with approving of same sex marriage. I wonder how many will say this just 'proves' Episcopalians aren't 'real' Christians

Wow, who could have seen that coming? I am knocked out by this surprise.
 
I am no longer religious, but was Episcopalian. The Episcopal Church has always been socially liberal. As a side note, one could argue that it is our unofficial state church as the Episcopal Church (a member of the Anglican Communion) was founded by some of our founding fathers, the National Cathedral is Episcopal, and we have had more Episcopalian presidents and members of congress in our nation's history than any other denomination.

That all said, if you don't like the fact that the Episcopalians are extending the sacrament of marriage to same sex couples, then don't go to an Episcopal Church.
 
Christians in name only. If you don't adhere to scripture, you're a fake. The Bible wasn't meant to be redefined or rewritten...only reread.

What "scripture"?
 
I have to question their religious faith at this point and the fact that they have abandoned God word to make men happy.
there will be a split in the church and people will leave and the church will drop in attendance.

Paul even wrote against this as well.

I'll just say I don't think that's fair. My brother is a very religious person and also gay. The two aren't incompatible, at least not in his view or the view of the church he attends. You will disagree, and that's fine and why there are so many different religions and denominations and even practices within each denomination. All of them are in my view doing their best to interpret God's will and fundamentally good people trying to do the right thing have throughout all of human history had deep disagreements on what that is. I'm not prepared to say that there is any one of them that has it correct.
 
LOL! I don't have a church. For that very reason.

For the record I wasn't trying to make this personal, but just to point out that there are fine people with noble intentions who deeply disagree on nearly aspect of the broad subject of "religion" and I'm certain that there are deeply religious people who have studied the Bible for decades who 'know' their own interpretation is correct and yours is the one that is contrary to the scripture.
 
It looks like some Christians don't see a problem with approving of same sex marriage. I wonder how many will say this just 'proves' Episcopalians aren't 'real' Christians

Hardly surprising if you knew Episcopalians.
 
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