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Episcopalians Vote to Allow Gay Marriage in Churches

Mob rule shouldn't be used as a justification to deny someone equal legal recognition.

When those people could have received those rights without invading the sanctity of holy materomony..yea mob rule is the next step.
You don't won't to envision the one after that.
 
You don't see much.... do you?

Is that a picture of your wife?

Caine is a good name for someone with such hate in their heart. Killed any relatives lately?

And it would appear I am done with you.

Not gonna continue trying to debate with someone who have to resort to this level of rules violations.
 
There are plenty of "faithful Episcopals", including my family, who are fine with the Church's decision. Anybody who insists on holding onto archaic ideas of sexuality should leave the church as far as I'm concerned as they would poison the message of the Church with their prejudice and bitterness.

I am shocked by your hateful intolerance. Wow. Anybody who holds to what has been taught for hundreds of years in the Episcopal Church should just get out because they will poison the new message? Talk about prejudice and bitterness.

Everyone’s welcome at the table of grace.
 
I am shocked by your hateful intolerance. Wow. Anybody who holds to what has been taught for hundreds of years in the Episcopal Church should just get out because they will poison the new message? Talk about prejudice and bitterness.

Everyone’s welcome at the table of grace.
I guess you forgot the people that Jesus kicked out the Temple. Figures.
 
Oh, wait—now you’re comparing those who would throw folks out of their own church to Jesus throwing the money-changers out of the Temple?

I’d laugh at this hopeless attempt at comparison if the lack of understanding wasn’t so sad.
 
And Google "Bishop Gene Robinson" while he's at it. He was the first elected openly gay Episcopalian Bishop. Right here in New Hampshire.

This ruling is as surprising as the fact that I woke up this morning.



Yup, not a surprise. The Episcopalian Church has been waffling in this direction for some time now.
 
I personally feel that their decision is highly questionable in light of the long-held common interpretation of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Romans 1:26-28, 1 Timothy 1:10, 1 Corinthians 7:2 and so on, but I am not going to go so far as saying they are "Christians in name only".

"Bretheren who have fallen into an error," would be more my viewpoint.


But, as I am not Episcopalian, I suppose it isn't really my business all that much. :shrug:
 
I'm not going to retract anything, and I wasn't aware I was in a contest with you to "win" or "lose."

Bottom line is I respect your view of marriage even if I disagree. Let's end it there. But if you need to claim victory of your beliefs over mine or billions of others, fine. You "win" a contest only you were playing.

thank you for your concession you cannot prove what you stated.
 
There are plenty of "faithful Episcopals", including my family, who are fine with the Church's decision. Anybody who insists on holding onto archaic ideas of sexuality should leave the church as far as I'm concerned as they would poison the message of the Church with their prejudice and bitterness.

Yeah, all of those damn people who believe Jesus really was who he said he was really poison the message.
 
Yeah, all of those damn people who believe Jesus really was who he said he was really poison the message.

That's an interesting point. What exactly did Jesus say about gay marriage? Quote?

The core of his teachings seemed to me to be "Love thy neighbor and treat each other with kindness and respect." I guess the Episcopalians put more emphasis on Christ's teachings than on the homophobic ramblings of bronze age authors.

When those people could have received those rights without invading the sanctity of holy materomony..yea mob rule is the next step.
You don't won't to envision the one after that.

Translation: Since gays demanded equal rights and didn't subject themselves to my interpretation of marriage, I'm going to throw a hissy fit.
 
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And it would appear I am done with you.

Not gonna continue trying to debate with someone who have to resort to this level of rules violations.

Good your rehtoric was wearing thin anyhow.
 
That's an interesting point. What exactly did Jesus say about gay marriage? Quote?

The core of his teachings seemed to me to be "Love thy neighbor and treat each other with kindness and respect." I guess the Episcopalians put more emphasis on Christ's teachings than on the homophobic ramblings of bronze age authors.



Translation: Since gays demanded equal rights and didn't subject themselves to my interpretation of marriage, I'm going to throw a hissy fit.

I M O it was a blatant, willful decision to go after traditional Christian marriage in particular. Watch where they attack now
 
The core of his teachings seemed to me to be "Love thy neighbor and treat each other with kindness and respect."

I am willing to bet that you don't know squat about the political/religious hassle that has been going on in the Episcopal Church for the past 50 years -you're just butthurt that individual Christians aren't knuckling down to your demands.
 
I am willing to bet that you don't know squat about the political/religious hassle that has been going on in the Episcopal Church for the past 50 years -you're just butthurt that individual Christians aren't knuckling down to your demands.

Knuckling down to my demands? My only demand is that you don't force your religious laws on me and my fellow Americans, and considering that's exactly what the Supreme Court just decided, I don't need you to do anything at all. So keep crying, we've already won.

I M O it was a blatant, willful decision to go after traditional Christian marriage in particular. Watch where they attack now

As opposed to going against muslim, hindu, buddhist or atheist marriage? I suppose that's an easy position to hold when you think christianity invented marriage and as such must purely be defined by only christians. Luckily we live in America where they have the right to marry, and you have the right to be sour about it.
 
I am willing to bet that you don't know squat about the political/religious hassle that has been going on in the Episcopal Church for the past 50 years -you're just butthurt that individual Christians aren't knuckling down to your demands.

I don't know "butthurt" might not be a midge insulting in the context.
 
I don't know "butthurt" might not be a midge insulting in the context.

Please, that's an image I don't need in my head.
 
Knuckling down to my demands? My only demand is that you don't force your religious laws on me and my fellow Americans, and considering that's exactly what the Supreme Court just decided, I don't need you to do anything at all. So keep crying, we've already won.

I think your demand is to have the world all to yourself.
 
Since the Episcopal Church has now decided to extend the "sanctity" of marriage to same sex couples, I wonder how many of the SSM opponents (who think the recent SSM decision by SCOTUS to forbid bans on SSM's infringes on *their* religious freedom) will now oppose such bans because they infringe on the Episcopalians right to express *their* religious beliefs by marrying same sex couples

My guess is "exactly zero"
 
The hyperbole doesn't serve you well here.
 
Gay Group Demands Christian Churches Be SHUT DOWN for Opposing Same-Sex Marriage | Top Right News
sounds like it to me.

come from those that preach tolerance and acceptance this is I think the opposite of that.

Well, there you go. One guy said:

“Churches that lobby to have freedoms and rights taken away from ANYONE should absolutely have their 501(c)3 status revoked"

means the "pink mafia" is after you Christians and it's just a matter of time before the pink mafia achieves its goals. BE AFRAID OF TEH GAYS!

LOL.
 
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