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50 soldiers killed in ISIS attack on Egyptian Army's Sinai checkpoints

Conservative said:
Ask our apparent best ally Israel about Saddam Hussein funding terrorists. Again apparently you didn't read the resolutions so stop digging your hole of ignorance deeper. Such passion you have for your beliefs even though proven wrong
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So that would be none then ....... yes ?
 
flogger said:
So that would be none then ....... yes ?
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How many German attacks on American soil occurred prior to us entering WWII to save your ass? Wonder if you would be here today had we not done that
 
Conservative said:
How many German attacks on American soil occurred prior to us entering WWII to save your ass? Wonder if you would be here today had we not done that
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I'm still waiting for evidence of these Iraqi terrorist attacks on the US that the invasion was supposed to be responding to ? :waiting:
 
flogger said:
So that would be none then ....... yes ?
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Now you will have to excuse me as I get ready for the start of our 4th of July celebration, you remember that, don't you?

Independence Day of the United States, also referred to as Fourth of July or July Fourth in the USA, is a federal holiday commemorating the adoption of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776, which was the date the United States formally declared it's independence from Great Britain in order to achieve freedom ...
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Apparently people like you would have no problem speaking German today
 
flogger said:
I'm still waiting for evidence of these Iraqi terrorist attacks on the US that the invasion was supposed to be responding to ? :waiting:
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What does the resolution say about Iraqi terrorism and what did the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 say about Iraq and terrorism?
 
Conservative said:
Now you will have to excuse me as I get ready for the start of our 4th of July celebration, you remember that, don't you?
Apparently people like you would have no problem speaking German today
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Yes perhaps it would be best to duck and run given WW2 seems to be all you've got left :lamo
 
flogger said:
Yes perhaps it would be best to duck and run given WW2 seems to be all you've got left :lamo
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No, actually that isn't true, I have the Congressional Resolution and Iraq Liberation Act which you refuse to read and thus ignore
 
flogger said:
Why not just answer my question instead of dodging ? :waiting:
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We did not attack Iraq because of 9/11 we attacked Iraq for the reasons listed in the resolution. Being proactive is something you don't understand


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Conservative said:
Of course you didn't because you know from the resolution that isn't why we invaded Iraq
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You invaded Iraq to get dimwit Bush his second term. He couldn't put Bin Ladens head on a pole after Afghanistan and post 9/11 such a failure was electoral suicide. Iraq was the perfect patsy and would produce loads of Muslim corpses. Vengeance would be served and would be reflected at the polls

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flogger said:
You invaded Iraq to get dimwit Bush his second term. He couldn't put Bin Ladens head on a pole after Afghanistan and post 9/11 such a failure was electoral suicide. Iraq was the perfect patsy and would produce loads of Muslim corpses. Vengeance would be served and would be reflected at the polls

:waiting:
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You are entitled to your opinion and I respect your right to express it however I do not respect anyone who has such a bad case of BDS and total ignorance of reality attacking a U.S. President and focused on something that happened 13 years ago. Do you have a solution for ISIS today or do you want to continue with your Bush bashing?
 
Conservative said:
Of course you didn't because you know from the resolution that isn't why we invaded Iraq

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Yes, the "resolution"!!

"People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are," said the Republican Senator from Nebraska Chuck Hagel to law students of Catholic University last September. "They talk about America's national interest. What the hell do you think they're talking about? We're not there for figs."

Hagel: War for Oil | The Weekly Standard
 
Montecresto said:
Yes, the "resolution"!!

"People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are," said the Republican Senator from Nebraska Chuck Hagel to law students of Catholic University last September. "They talk about America's national interest. What the hell do you think they're talking about? We're not there for figs."

Hagel: War for Oil | The Weekly Standard
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Oh come on now. This conflict had very little to do with oil but everything to do with power ..... in Washington DC
 
Montecresto said:
Yes, the "resolution"!!

"People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are," said the Republican Senator from Nebraska Chuck Hagel to law students of Catholic University last September. "They talk about America's national interest. What the hell do you think they're talking about? We're not there for figs."

Hagel: War for Oil | The Weekly Standard
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Fact or fiction, the War in Iraq was bipartisan in support?

Fact or Fiction, ISIS is a world problem and Iraq is in much worse shape today than it was when Bush left office?
 
Conservative said:
You are entitled to your opinion and I respect your right to express it however I do not respect anyone who has such a bad case of BDS and total ignorance of reality attacking a U.S. President and focused on something that happened 13 years ago. Do you have a solution for ISIS today or do you want to continue with your Bush bashing?
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I'm not sure why a conservative would want to continue to defend a liberal president like GWB.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'm not sure why a conservative would want to continue to defend a liberal president like GWB.
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There is nothing to defend, he has been out of office 7 years and reliving the reasons to go to war in Iraq are irrelevant today. The question is what to do about ISIS but far too many with BDS want to divert to Bush. Does it really matter what Bush did or didn't do?

As for supporting Bush, tell me Bush vs. Gore, Bush vs. Kerry, who does a Conservative support
 
Conservative said:
Fact or fiction, the War in Iraq was bipartisan in support?

Fact or Fiction, ISIS is a world problem and Iraq is in much worse shape today than it was when Bush left office?
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How many more lost US lives do you think the public would have supported had that huge garrison remained ? That too would have represented electoral suicide for any president of whatever political hue given the ghost of Vietnam
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'm not sure why a conservative would want to continue to defend a liberal president like GWB.
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Oh, by the way on the two most important issues, National Security and the Economy, Bush wasn't a liberal as tax cuts aren't liberal programs
 
flogger said:
How many more lost US lives do you think the public would have supported had that huge garrison remained ? That too would have represented electoral suicide for any president of whatever political hue given the ghost of Vietnam
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That doesn't answer the question, why don't you ask ISIS what they want to stop killing people and trying for world domination?
 
Amadeus said:
The Neocons/PNAC wanted to transform the Middle East by toppling/destabilizing regimes. The Obama Admin is aggressive with terrorist targets. You could argue that the policies overlap in certain areas, but there is a massive difference in their end goals.
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Supporting the MB in deference to Mubarak, abusing UN1973 in Libya to conduct regime change in Libya which has been HUGELY destabilizing, smuggling arms confiscated from Gaddafi's army out of the Benghazi annex to the AQ, MB, al Nusra infested opposition fighters in Syria (via Turkey) fighting to overthrow president Assad! Obama's policies have been hugely beneficial to the opportunistic Islamic extremists that formed in Iraq as the Islamic State in Iraq in 2006 and spread throughout the region due to Obama's policies. Wesley Clark presented a list of countries the Pentagon had plans for regime change in and there's been little difference in US Middle East policy in the past 15 years.
 
Conservative said:
There is nothing to defend, he has been out of office 7 years and reliving the reasons to go to war in Iraq are irrelevant today. The question is what to do about ISIS but far too many with BDS want to divert to Bush. Does it really matter what Bush did or didn't do?

As for supporting Bush, tell me Bush vs. Gore, Bush vs. Kerry, who does a Conservative support
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Well, it matters what he did, as we're now dealing with the results. Moreover, it's better to learn from the mistakes of the past so as not to repeat them.

Now, we have a few thousand truly evil people in the Middle East committing acts of savagery under the banner of ISIS. They are radicals who are not afraid to die for their cause, and who believe that their god will see to it that they succeed in their goal of world domination.

So, what do we do?

It is our problem to a degree, since we set the stage for the uprising and since we still rely on the region for oil. It seems to me that it is also the problem of a lot of other nations as well, including, of course, Egypt, the last one to have been attacked.

So, do we go in alone, guns blazing, to free the world from evil and set things right? Remember the learning from the past thing.
 
Conservative said:
That doesn't answer the question, why don't you ask ISIS what they want to stop killing people and trying for world domination?
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ISIS extremists carry the seeds of their own destruction just like all other extremists groups have in the past. We wouldn't have these symptoms to deal with if Bush hadn't created the problem in the first place
 
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