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Texas AG Says Workers Can Refuse Marriage Licenses to Gays[W:297]

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SouthernDemocrat said:
Constitutional law 101: Your rights are not subject to voter approval.
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But, voter approval was needed to set the age of consent. And, a court can shoot that down just as easily as they did with SSM restrictions.
Here's another one that no one can seem to answer. Is there any circumstances under which a person can be denied a gun permit, in full violation of the 2nd Amendment, without having broken any laws?
 
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Amadeus said:
I expect better from Texas.
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From a state with leaders that talk of seceding from the United States, think there is something sinister about military training in their state and spawned the likes of W Bush and T Cruz? Seriously?
 
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Fearandloathing said:
who said consentual?

You implied there cannot be rape in marriage, that is false.
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I know you feminazis like to cal all sexual relations in marriage rape. But, it just isn't so.
Now, would you like to get back on topic?
 
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Moon said:
Now we get to see if a SCOTUS decision to expand one group's rights actually trumps an enumerated right that has been protected since the 1st amendment was created. This is when things get interesting.
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What part of unconstitutional don't you understand? Anybody that has passed the bar exam knows you can't win with an unconstitutional act.

And furthermore the AG has sworn to uphold the law of the land. What a moron.
 
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keymanjim said:
I know you feminazis like to cal all sexual relations in marriage rape. But, it just isn't so.
Now, would you like to get back on topic?
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What bull**** baiting!

Shame,

Post ONE reference to anyone EVER saying all sex in marriage is rape.....

That's the most hate filled post I have ever seen allowed.
 
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Hatuey said:
Hmmm interesting. Do you think this is any different than a racist refusing to issue marriage licenses to interracial couples? Do you think the same measures to deal with racists in the 1960s won't be used in 2015 to deal with homophobes in positions of power? Your first amendment rights don't trump what the law permits and doesn't permit.
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When was that overturned I know it was a tad back but? Such a disgusting law.
A number of Laws thru various States will have to change. And many will fight, using tax dollars to delay and screw people around.
Just look at the discriminatory practices in place now. More SCOTUS cases coming up fast.
 
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keymanjim said:
Abortion and marriage are now part of the same issue.
Now, can you answer the question or not?
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They're different issues. If you want to talk about abortion, start a thread.

I answered your question as it relates to marriage. If you don't want to talk about marriage, fine. Have a good day.
 
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Fearandloathing said:
What bull**** baiting!

Shame,

Post ONE reference to anyone EVER saying all sex in marriage is rape.....

That's the most hate filled post I have ever seen allowed.
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Let me address the relevant parts of your post:






Now that that's done, let's get back on topic.
Here's a refresher. Why can a girl of any age get an abortion, yet can't get married?
 
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keymanjim said:
But, voter approval was needed to set the age of consent. And, a court can shoot that down just as easily as they did with SSM restrictions.
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Animus is the legal principle that was applied in regards to equal protection and same sex marriage. You cannot deny rights due to animus. That is why Same Sex Marriage proponents prevailed in the courts.

In contrast, a legal ban against marrying children is not based in animus, thus a case brought by pedophiles allow state recognition of marriages between adults and children would not prevail in the courts.
 
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ludin said:
just because they are a public employee they do not give up their 1st amendment rights one of which is free exercise of religions.
IE the government cannot force them to do something against their religious beliefs.

if anything texas will have to make reasonable accommodations for those people and find someone who will issue them.
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If it's part of your job description and you refuse to do it for whatever reason you need to be terminated immediately.

Your argument is bull****.
 
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keymanjim said:
Let me address the relevant parts of your post:



Hmm....



Now that that's done, let's get back on topic.
Here's a refresher. Why can a girl of any age get an abortion, yet can't get married?
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Bye bye.....
 
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keymanjim said:
Under state laws you couldn't married if you are gay. But, courts all over the country have voided those laws. Even in opposition to the voter's overwhelming disapproval.
Now that gay marriage has bee forced down our throats, how long do you think it will be before marriage at puberty is legalized as well?
(Here's a hint, once someone realizes that and girl of breeding age can get an abortion they'll move to make allowing her to get married legal as well.)
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Why do you guys always use, "forced down our throats." I suspect projection! Secret fantasies!
 
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keymanjim said:
It's not rape it you're married. Quit sensationalizing the issue.
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It is if you are 14.
 
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JasperL said:
They're different issues. If you want to talk about abortion, start a thread.

I answered your question as it relates to marriage. If you don't want to talk about marriage, fine. Have a good day.
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The issue is not about abortion other than to demonstrate the hyprocricy between age of consent for getting an abortion over getting married.
And, that laws that once prevented underage marriage can now be rendered unconstitutional the same way that laws that prevented SSM were rendered unconstitutional.
 
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keymanjim said:
Let me address the relevant parts of your post:






Now that that's done, let's get back on topic.
Here's a refresher. Why can a girl of any age get an abortion, yet can't get married?
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Why can a girl of any age buy a candy bar, yet can't get married?
 
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JasperL said:
Why do you guys always use, "forced down our throats." I suspect projection! Secret fantasies!
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They also like to say, "shoved up our asses."

Makes you wonder doesn't it?
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
Animus is the legal principle that was applied in regards to equal protection and same sex marriage. You cannot deny rights due to animus. That is why Same Sex Marriage proponents prevailed in the courts.

In contrast, a legal ban against marrying children is not based in animus, thus a case brought by pedophiles allow state recognition of marriages between adults and children would not prevail in the courts.
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It would if it was shown that girls of any age were already allowed to make adult level decision absent for their parent's or guardian's consent.
 
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Deuce said:
Why can a girl of any age buy a candy bar, yet can't get married?
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Are you saying getting an abortion is no more an adult decision than buying candy?
 
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ocean515 said:
"The Joy'?

Let's face the facts. To many people, the hate and judgment has been directed at them by forcing them to violate principles that are sacred to them.
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BS. Was anyone ****ed in the ass or asked to marry their BFF as a final test if they approve or not of SSM?
What exactly is violated other than their bigoted stupid ego?
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Stop making things personal folks. You know doing such leads to rule violations so why continue it? (don't actually answer that, it was rhetorical)
 
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EnigmaO01 said:
They also like to say, "shoved up our asses."

Makes you wonder doesn't it?
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I don't listen to Rush all that much, but that's one he's used several times. Given the way he runs through wives, I'm REALLY suspecting projection with him...
 
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keymanjim said:
It would if it was shown that girls of any age were already allowed to make adult level decision absent for their parent's or guardian's consent.
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But we have lots of laws with a minimum age requirement. It's 16 to drive, 18 to join the military and to register and to enter into most contracts, 21 to drink alcohol. Each of those are separate issues. There are reasons one can find why the age of "consent" for an abortion is zero in some states. In my state one or more of the girl's parents have to give permission. In Montana, no parental involvement is needed. You can rage about hypocrisy with the Montana legislature if you want, but this thread isn't about abortion. It's about marriage, which is a different topic altogether.
 
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ocean515 said:
I think you have to look at what might be motivating the "dislike". If one were to look at the polls, people don't see gays as anything special. They are gay, so what? Be gay. That seems to be the sentiment.

But this issue has been more than just equality in entering into a contractual agreement, and I think that, along with some other in your face issues, is where the emotions get their energy.

As to the Church's, there is already a Supreme Court case that may form the basis of forcing Churches to perform marriage ceremonies that are in direct conflict of their faith.

You may want to familiarize yourself with the Bob Jones University case, and the resulting loss of tax status.

Nothing is impossible, for what seemed impossible not long ago, has become law.
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Bob jones University had nothing to do with couples getting married but rather a university losing a certain tax status because it was refusing to allow interracial couples in the school. It wasn't a church, nor is a school equivalent to a church, nor is going to school the same thing as having a religious ceremony.
 
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