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Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

So again, the wishes of the people were not honored [least the ones who voted for traditional marriage] all because the issue was used for political purposes.

Yes, absolutely. Your wishes are purely political purposes, derived in no great fashion from a purely objective view of the Constitution. Democracy can be a vile institution which requires the majority to determine the rights of a minority. Minorities are usually despised by the majorities, thus democracy has often tended to destroy their liberty.

Civil liberties should not to be determined by the ignorant masses, of which you would be among them.
 
Come now, this is hardly the first time the Court has stretched a Constitutional point like a rubber band and twisted it far out of its meaning.


Roe v Wade for one, the Commerce Clause for another. It's not a constructionist decision but it isn't the end of the world either.

The decision is pretty fairly grounded in constitutional law. 14th amendment is clear, marriage, like many rights in the US, is considered a right based on precedent(and trust me, if we stopped having all those rights derived from precedent, you would be unhappy), and from there there is not many options for the court.
 
Not necessarily 'this' world you need to worry about.

Ooga booga,me so scared. Fear tactics is all you got,huh? Which world should I be worried about? Qo'noS,The Klingon homeworld? Mongo?
 
The left affirmed in the ruling that religious institutions are protected by the 1st amendment from being forced to recognize same-sex marriage. The very ruling that makes same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states is now the precedent that forever protects churches and other religious institutions from having to recognize or support them.

Don't kid yourself. What one Supreme Court has ruled can be overturned by another court in the future - it's happened many times before. When the constitution doesn't seem to bind justices to ruling under the law, then an alternate interpretation can be the "forever" ruling next time around.
 
Sounds like what might have been said in the last days of Sodom and Gomorrah.

So just to be clear, you are in agreement with ISIS stance that gay marriage is bad?
 
Practitioners and supporters of homosexuality and SSM [along with 5 members of the SCOTUS] have driven this country a few more miles down the highway to Hell.

Hope you have fun in this life because it will be the last fun you will ever have.
 
Meanwhile, tornadoes will continue to occur in the bible belt...LOL

Another statement showing that you don't have a clue how God operates.

When Israel went into captivity to Babylon, the 'good' went with them.

But it will sort itself out real well at the Judgment.
 
Practitioners and supporters of homosexuality and SSM [along with 5 members of the SCOTUS] have driven this country a few more miles down the highway to Hell.

Hope you have fun in this life because it will be the last fun you will ever have.

“If it’s a choice between eternal hell and good tunes.. or eternal heaven and New Kids on The ****ing Block… I'm gonna be surfing on the lake of fire rocking out.”-Bill Hicks
 
The 14th amendment is part of the constitution, it's application is pretty straightforward. Not liking a ruling does not mean it is wrong.

Four justices including the Chief Justice saying this decision had nothing whatsoever to do with the Constitution might give you a clue however. But hey, I've been saying the court is rogue for some time now. There's no doubt now, we've accepted being ruled by the Ayatollahs.
 
So just to be clear, you are in agreement with ISIS stance that gay marriage is bad?


So just to be clear, you are in agreement with the devil's stance that gay marriage is good?
 
Practitioners and supporters of homosexuality and SSM [along with 5 members of the SCOTUS] have driven this country a few more miles down the highway to Hell.

Hope you have fun in this life because it will be the last fun you will ever have.

Ah, that loving christianity where your god is a hit man, who will torture and kill and all that. And the folk that have to cling to that snuff film mentality of their loving god to get them through the day.
 
They aren't performing them to make money; at most you should only be paying the pastor/rabbi/priest for his time.

They will still have ceremonies, but they won't sign the state's paper. They will send folks somewhere to get it signed.

Actually, many churches receive "donations" to perform wedding ceremonies, if not actually fees. It can vary, but apparently about $200-$250, for the average size wedding, without premarital counseling is about average.

What to Pay a Priest for a Marriage Ceremony - Budgeting Money

That sounds about right, since I paid the woman who actually drove out to me (a couple of counties from where she lived), and had to get a hotel room for a night, about $260 for the wedding (included tip). She was ordained over the internet.
 
Ooga booga,me so scared. Fear tactics is all you got,huh? Which world should I be worried about? Qo'noS,The Klingon homeworld? Mongo?

Galatians 6:7 ESV
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

I'd be damned scared.
 
What I can't understand is how you can be angry about this law when you see all the smiling, happy people who are embracing eachother and are crying with joy.
In a world of so much hate, violence and death ( just look at today) surley this is a win?
 
First no money will be saved by the state. As far as I'm concerned it's all said and done when a couple goes to the courthouse to get said marriage license and they make you raise your right hand and swear the oath. The more important issue is if the state is authorizing certain individuals such as ministers/priests to legally witness and sign a secular legal document I think we get on shaky ground when said person refuses to sign said document for particular people. The state aught to stay out of religious affairs and vice versa.

Money would be saved because doing the whole taking the oath thing takes time and someone would have to make up that time.

The only shaky grounds would be if the state were paying the person to sign it. They aren't.
 
Tyranny is not a win just because you agree with what the tyrant does today.
 
Another statement showing that you don't have a clue how God operates.

When Israel went into captivity to Babylon, the 'good' went with them.

But it will sort itself out real well at the Judgment.

Keep waving your cognitive dissonance. You just need a old testament angry hit man god fantasy, because you love that whole vengeance and violence and torture from your "loving" god.

Remember that next time a tornado wipes out a church in the bible belt.
 
The 14th amendment is part of the constitution, it's application is pretty straightforward. Not liking a ruling does not mean it is wrong.

No, it's application is not straightforward, how naïve can one be?

Tim-
 
Galatians 6:7 ESV
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

I'd be damned scared.

I would be too, if I were ignorant and believed in bronze aged fables and myths.
 
Practitioners and supporters of homosexuality and SSM [along with 5 members of the SCOTUS] have driven this country a few more miles down the highway to Hell.

Hope you have fun in this life because it will be the last fun you will ever have.

You sound bitter. And that sounds like a threat. I don't fear your Lovecraftian Eldritch Horror of a deity. I'm going to enjoy my life whether you or deity likes it or not. Right now the champagne is flowing at Chez Verthaine and I my sales reps are taking orders to cater gay and straight weddings.
 
Employers have a duty to accommodate an employees religion unless said accommodations become too burdensome to the employer. The question is, is an employee refusing to do a required job duty because of religious reasons constitute an undue burden. I would say so.

Religion in the Workplace - FindLaw

Christians would absolutely love for a government law barring them from holding civil jobs. Sorry, but I have absolutely no intention of giving them that martyrdom.
 
Of course, gay marriage has been a "constitutional right" ever since 1868. And so has marrying trees, but we won't discover that was the author's secret intent until 2172.

A right isn't a right til it is recognized, officially. Otherwise, there is no enforcement of that right, so then it is pointless.
 
Galatians 6:7 ESV
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

I'd be damned scared.

I'm not you. Your book,and you, have no power over me. You mad,bro?
 
Let's see if you're still so arrogant about it in 2016. It's gonna be a rout.

Well, I sure hope the GOP runs on this issue!

Or "Please GOP, don't throw us in dat briar patch"

BTW, the problem with gay marriage is it really doesn't affect anyone negatively. My brother getting married requires no sacrifice from you at all. Nothing. You'd never know it happened. But happiness, stability, commitment to a loved one, good things in society increase.

Maybe the thought of teh gays getting married bothers some folks, but they already associate the Democrat [sic] party with sodomists and SF values etc. so no change for them.
 
Ah, that loving christianity where your god is a hit man, who will torture and kill and all that. And the folk that have to cling to that snuff film mentality of their loving god to get them through the day.

It doesn't have to be that way. Salvation is free. You only need to take it.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God"
Eph 2:8
 
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