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Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

Easy win win here is for the govt to stop recognizing marriage as a legal thing. Its a tradition, nothing more. If people then want to legally share things, they can get a civil union.
 
Apparently they argued it is both a fundamental right and a necessity under equality under the law.

Scalia was...pissed. Not really any other word to describe him. His dissent reads like a rant.

Icing on the cake!
 
I have no horse in this race, but you are not viewing things objectively. Gay marriage is supported by the majority in the country. The ONLY ones who won't like this are Republicans, who won't vote for Democrats, anyway. Log cabin Republicans may vote for Democrats, though.

I'm too angry to answer you right now, jumping jack. Enjoy your victory
 
This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.

When you come out in the daylight you will find that most of the country supports this decision.
 
Congrats everyone! It's been a long hard-fought fight. :lol:
 
This isn't the end of it. There will be lawsuit after lawsuit against churches who refuse to marry same-sex couples. Religious freedoms are now being violated.

How many churches in States where SSM was legal were sued for not performing same-sex marriages prior to today's ruling?
 
Let's see if you're still so arrogant about it in 2016. It's gonna be a rout.

You're going to be more disappointed then than you are now.
 
AND THATS THE BALL GAME!!!! Equal rights, freedom and the constitution wins!!!!!!!!!!

Bigotry and discrimination loses!!!



HAPPY AND PROUD DAYS FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!! SO AWESOME!

We just witnessed and lived a great historic moment!
 
This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.

Except most Americans reject that back-ass-wards view as straight up homophobic nonsense.
 
Sounds good to me!


I never understood why this issue was so important... I feel like people committed their lives politically just on this issue, which to me is ridiculous on both sides...

Who the hell cares? I don't care if you marry your dog...Marry your genitalia... or car...It means nothing to me

Now... There are people dying, starving, and the country is tanking economically with large separations in economic and political opinion on foreign relations
 
This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.

All polls I've seen disagree with you. A majority of the polls show 60%+ in favor of same sex marriage.
 
Fantastic news, but I would like to read the actual decision. I was concerned about how the ruling would handle who gets to decide the question on defining marriage, and I suspect the dissent centers around State's rights for what the Constitution does not grant in power to the Federal Level.

There were four separate dissents, which is pretty rare. Last time it occurred was Gore v. Bush, I believe.

And from what I understand, the decision was written in a way to try and be very limited as it relates to potentially other non-traditional types of marriage. But, that will be a case for another day.
 
This is the worst. Thing. A. Supreme Court. Can. Do. It is tyranny.

nah. i'd say upholding slavery was the worst.

if you want to flip out about yesterday's decision, i'd almost be sympathetic. i heard that one, and i was a little surprised. today's decision is solid as ****, though. equal protection under the law is equal protection under the law. this is no different than Loving v Virginia. sexual orientation is analogous to race. you were born straight, and they were born gay. you can't deny them a fundamental right.
 
I think the left supports the decision because they're under the impression that all Conservatives oppose Gay marriage.

I don't really care one way or the other.

We have much more important issues to deal with.

I think conservatives are going to try and downplay their opposition to same sex marriage or to cover themselves by cloaking the argument in a state's rights style of argument.
 
Incorrect.

The states have the right to define marriage, but that is still constrained by the 14th amendment. All state authority is. As an example, a state has a right to define marriage, but they do not have the right to define marriage as between a Jewish man and a Jewish woman only.

Marriage has been defined for thousands of years. Now it has been redefined by the SCOTUS at the federal level. Are they now going to FORCE churches to perform same-sex marriages even if it violates their religious beliefs? There is NO GOOD that can come of this.
 
William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
THE SECOND COMING

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
 
nah. i'd say upholding slavery was the worst.

Oh you mean exactly the same thing they did today, then? Exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about?

It doesn't matter if you're talking about Dred Scott, Roe, or this newest abomination.


Maintaining the integrity of the Constitution is their job. When they not only fail to do that, but they directly violate the Constitution themselves and make up new "rights" willy nilly and force them against the states appropriate of nothing, that is tyranny.

When the foxes rule the henhouse, it's game over.
 
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This goes against the wishes of the people. It's like in 2010 when the people reacted to having Obamacare shoved down their throats...too much too soon. There will be backlash in the electorate.

It surely does go against the wishes of SOME people. Just not enough to matter. Had the decision went the other way, the majority of people would have dissented. This way, it's the minority, (namely, you and your fellow ideologues,) that it goes against.

You can't always get what you want..... America will, and always has, been drawn to the side of freedom and liberty and justice for all, despite your wishes.

Adapt and improvise. Or, I hear the middle east is nice this time of year. Gays aren't allowed to marry there. Perhaps you might find their society more suitable.
 
i think you don't understand the constitution. It ennumerates our rights in general, but does not rule on specific real life situations and how they may apply to our rights. The founding fathers set up the court system to "interpret" the constitutional protections, as they apply to real life situations. Real life situations would be so numerous and varied that there could never be a list of them all, not to mention that some situations in the future could not have been foreseen by our founding fathers.

So...the three branches of govt were set up to deal with real life situations. the u.s. S.ct. Being the ultimate and final determiner of the interpretation of the constitution.

And so said our founding fathers.

no thats not what the founders said.......that is what the USSC said.
 
What exactly about my marriage makes you angry? How is it hurting you?

It soils the institution of marriage but, more importantly, it solidifies the idea that we're not a democracy....we're lorded over by 5 unelected and robed buffoons who call all the shots.

It's ridiculous and infuriating that Justice Kennedy, by himself, can lord over 350 million people without receiving a single vote
 
How many churches in States where SSM was legal were sued for not performing same-sex marriages prior to today's ruling?

They had federal protection then; now they don't.
 
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