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Breaking: US S.Ct. Rules Same Sex Marriage Constitutionally Protected[W:320]

Ok. So if I open a flower shop and refuse to participate in a gay wedding, I won't be prosecuted? I'm glad that is settled law then.
At this time, and even after this ruling, that depends entirely on what state you live in.

Federal anti-discrimination laws currently extend only to gender, race, class, creed. The laws have not been modified to include sexual orientation. This ruling, from what I can tell, does not modify those existing laws.

The recent cases about refusing to bake cakes for gay weddings are all dealing with state laws.
 
This will be the end of the Democratic Party for a generation. You won't see another den in the White House for a decade

Based on what exactly? The large majority of Americans actually supports only 37% disagrees with gay marriage. And in the words of Mitt Romney:

All right, there are 37 percent who are with the republicans, who are unwilling to allow gays and lesbians to marry and who depend on the government to ban that, they believe they are victims of the great liberal/socialist/communist conspiracy, who they believe that is infecting their great conservative country, they believe the government has a responsibility to only protect their rights, who believe they are entitled to special consideration because they are Christians, so they can discriminate, ban gays from marrying, refuse them wedding cakes. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for the republicans no matter what.

;)

I am sorry to make a bit of a joke of it but your comments are just a bit ridiculous. You should first find someone among the rag tag band of clowns, extremists and extremely unlikely candidates to win this election. This decision will have very little influence, and it will especially not "end the democratic party for a decade".
 
Tim, it's *always* been legal. There's always been a fundamental right to polygamy. We're just waiting for the right five justices to come along and pull it of their asses, where it's been hiding all this time.

The Supreme Court, literally two years ago, upheld a State Court ruling which rejected polygamy. So if you're expecting the "right five justices" to come along, you will be waiting a while yet.
 
To be quite honest, I've seen FAR more lying and spinning coming from the MSM and the left than from Conservative sources. But that's a topic for another forum. ;)

And liberals would argue the reverse. That's the thing about bias; the other side are always the liars and spin doctors. ;)
 
It's a vote to turn America into a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah.

Now America gets to pay the price for this spiritual dwarfism, and it's not going to be pretty.

"Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?" Rabbi Jonathan Cahn

Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost
 
Yes, I have read the plain English of the United States Constitution as written and as amended and I expect it to be upheld and followed by the government that would have no authority to exist or to do anything whatsoever without it.

When they grievously break this contract,
there is no reason for anyone else to follow it
.



Tell that to the people locked up in prison.
 
Here's a list of all the heterosexual marriages affected by todays ruling:














Carry on.
Talk about coincidence! That list reads exactly like Kennedy's legal justification for this ruling!
 
It's a vote to turn America into a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah.

Now America gets to pay the price for this spiritual dwarfism, and it's not going to be pretty.

"Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?" [/size/ Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost


Canada has had legal same-sex marriage for a decade

So the punishment is nothing. Okay!
 
It's a vote to turn America into a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah.

Now America gets to pay the price for this spiritual dwarfism, and it's not going to be pretty.

"Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?" Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost

Does Jesus discuss gay marriage? No? So you're resorting to Leviticus for your biblical support?

Do you like to eat shellfish? Or pork? Do you think women should be sequestered into a tent during that time of the month?
 
My 14 year marriage to my wife hasn't been devalued at all. We still love each other deeply and we still get the tax breaks.

I too am wondering how this will affect my 42 year marriage to my wife.
 
I like how, after years of claiming that gay people marrying each other would herald the doom of our society, right wingers are now saying that it was never important. If it was never important, then we wouldn't have had to have this debate at all. There would never have been bans enacted into state constitutions. Of course it was important. And now it's over, and good unambiguously won, and evil unambiguously lost.
 
scalia:
"The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: 'The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,' I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie."

"And to allow the policy question of same-sex marriage to be considered and resolved by a select, patrician, highly unrepresentative panel of nine is to violate a principle even more fundamental than no taxation without representation: no social transformation without representation. But what really astounds is the hubris reflected in today’s judicial Putsch."

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Way to go SCOTUS...finally America joins the 21'st century on this.

It is absolute nonsense that the state could decide who can marry and who cannot. ANY consenting adults should be able to marry.

And the hypocrisy of the right saying that same sex marriage is against the Bible, yet the Pope now supports global warming being caused by humanity - though the right is still insisting there is little/no global warming.

So, basically, the right just wants to believe whatever it wants and only uses the Bible whenever it suits them.


Once again, I am neither lib nor con.
 
They have devalued marriage



That's your opinion which, judging from this thread and lots of polls, most people don't agree with.

"Time Marches On."

100 years from now we'll look back at this and laugh.Life will go on.

:lol:
 
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Over half of marriages end in divorce. It would be foolish not to consider the possibility

A possibility is different than expecting it, as you seemed to be. My husband and I went into our marriage with the expectation that we would work through any problems and take care of ourselves if we someone found a problem we couldn't resolve. Communication about the possible end of a marriage is just as important as communication about the marriage itself, and it should include expectations about what is expected for possible care for the other. It should be agreed upon based on the circumstances and if those change, just as a judge would decide.
 
Today is truly a great day for the United States. Hopefully our government can take action on curtailing discrimination against LGBT citizens in the areas of employment and housing as well.

Btw, the argument that churches will be forced to carry out gay marriages is a myth. That's not what this decision addressed. It addressed the states that were not issuing same sex marriage licenses and recognition of other state's same sex marriages; that is all. No church in the United States has ever been forced to recognize any wedding, ever.
 
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The Supreme Court, literally two years ago, upheld a State Court ruling which rejected polygamy. So if you're expecting the "right five justices" to come along, you will be waiting a while yet.

No they didn't.
 
I too am wondering how this will affect my 42 year marriage to my wife.

I hope you are not waiting for the anti-SSM-ers to answer that question,because you may be in for a long wait.
 
I like how, after years of claiming that gay people marrying each other would herald the doom of our society, right wingers are now saying that it was never important.
It's just like a child who doesn't get the toy he wants. First, he throws a tantrum. Then, when the tantrum doesn't work, he stomps his feet and whines, "I don't care!"
 
Way to go SCOTUS...finally America joins the 21'st century on this.

It is absolute nonsense that the state could decide who can marry and who cannot. ANY consenting adults should be able to marry.

And the hypocrisy of the right saying that same sex marriage is against the Bible, yet the Pope now supports global warming being caused by humanity - though the right is still insisting there is little/no global warming.

So, basically, the right just wants to believe whatever it wants and only uses the Bible whenever it suits them.


Once again, I am neither lib nor con.

You realize that your definition of the right here is very limited. It also ignores that the media panders to the extremists for shock value and to sell news? I've found that many liberals and independents watch Fox News to have something to hate on. I only watch local news on fox or when hln or cnn is on commercial. Even then I prefer to use my phone.
 
Ok..perhaps I worded it in a way you didn't understand. Churches who perform traditional marriages will be sued if they refuse to marry same-sex couples. IMHO. We will have to wait and see what happens.

I am not a Catholic, trust me Catholic churches are not required to marry me, it's been that way forever. No wait is required.
 
It's a vote to turn America into a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah.

Now America gets to pay the price for this spiritual dwarfism, and it's not going to be pretty.

"Supreme Court Justices, can you judge the ways of God? Can you, with manmade verdicts, overrule the eternal laws of God? There is another court, and there is another Judge. And before Him, all men and all judges will give account. If a nation's high court should pass judgment on the Almighty, should you then be surprised if the Almighty should pass judgment on that court and that nation?" Rabbi Jonathan Cahn

Rabbi Jonathan Cahn Gives America a Final Warning - Freedom Outpost



Yeah, here comes the "angry god" as a hitman theme. You soooo want your god to start killing and punishing that it excites you. How savage of you.
 
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