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Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Given Death Penalty in Boston Marathon Bombing

TheDemSocialist said:
Ahhh I see we still use this talking point? How do you measure this? What does it mean to have "terrorism flourishing"? Whats the measure?
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Right wing radio claims another victim.
 
US Conservative said:
We are code L-for leftist. Meaning a govt unable to address threats. Need an example? Rhymes with ISIS.
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:doh
What are you even babbling about now?
Watch this: "You are code R-for rightist. Meaning a gov unable to address threats. Need an example?"
I can tell you put a lot of sound reasoning, logical thought, and non-hackery behind your posts.
 
Moon said:
Of course you're not.
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I'm not? Well I'll let your post explain the rest.
Remember you said: "I hope it hurts. A lot."

He's had his day in court and found guilty by a jury of his peers, all of which conforms to "conservative" ideals (nice scare quotes, by the way) . He's going to die in accordance with the law. It's just my personal desire that he feels some small amount of the pain he inflicted on so many.
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"I hope it hurts. A lot."
-- A lot means "a large number or amount; a great deal". Thats more than a "small amount"... Thus making it cruel and unusual...
Is "a lot of pain" considered necessary? No. Would it be degrading to his human dignity? Yes. Cruel and unusual.
Maybe if you get a t-shirt with his picture on it you'll feel better.
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Awhhh man since I hope he doesnt die in pain that must mean I like him right?
 
US Conservative said:
BOSTON — Two years after bombs in two backpacks transformed the Boston Marathon from a sunny rite of spring to a smoky battlefield with bodies dismembered, a federal jury on Friday condemned Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to death for his role in the 2013 attack.

In a sweeping rejection of the defense case, the jury found that death was the appropriate punishment for six of 17 capital counts — all six related to Mr. Tsarnaev’s planting of a pressure-cooker bomb on Boylston Street, which his lawyers never disputed. Mr. Tsarnaev, 21, stood stone-faced in court, his hands folded in front of him, as the verdict was read, his lawyers standing grimly at his side.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-death-sentence.html?_r=0
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I'm not going to throw my arms up in righteous indignation at his death sentence. But I still oppose the death penalty and given the choice would commute his sentence to life in prison.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I'm not? Well I'll let your post explain the rest.
Remember you said: "I hope it hurts. A lot."


"I hope it hurts. A lot."
-- A lot means "a large number or amount; a great deal". Thats more than a "small amount"... Thus making it cruel and unusual...
Is "a lot of pain" considered necessary? No. Would it be degrading to his human dignity? Yes. Cruel and unusual.

Awhhh man since I hope he doesnt die in pain that must mean I like him right?
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I know what I said and I stand by it. Did you miss the part where I said it was my personal desire that he suffer some measure of the pain he inflicted? Personal desire doesn't mean I want that to be government policy or enacted into law.
 
US Conservative said:
Did you not agree with me that terror flourishes under Obama?
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Can you answer my questions please? You know my answer to this, since you have used this talking point over and over and over and over and over and over again. Now I'm just trying to get your perspective and reasoning behind said such talking point you continuously use.

Climate change is a political wedge issue exploited by the left.
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Its a "wedge issue" in your view only because its something you dont want to recognize as an important issue, or you probably dont even acknowledge it as an issue at all.

The fact that our president told graduating military cadets its the biggest threat is case in point.
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Really? "Biggest threat" or a threat?

Last I hear ole cankles herself was cackling about the confederate flag today. Is she running for state office?
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:doh
"Ole cankles". :sarcasticclap What about all the Republican candidates? Why no criticism of them when they come out and give their positions? Oh right, I remember, the have a '(R)' next to their name! Here's Where the 2016 Candidates Stand on the Confederate Flag Issue - ABC News

But then again, politicians be them state or national cant address political problems going on at the state level and are being handled at the state level?

No, not because its not my party, because its losing horribly. :2wave:
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"Losing horribly"? Please explain? By what? The election results?
 
Moon said:
I know what I said and I stand by it. Did you miss the part where I said it was my personal desire that he suffer some measure of the pain he inflicted? Personal desire doesn't mean I want that to be government policy or enacted into law.
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So why did you say it hurts a lot then moved the ol pain meter to only a "small amount"?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
:doh
What are you even babbling about now?
Watch this: "You are code R-for rightist. Meaning a gov unable to address threats. Need an example?"
I can tell you put a lot of sound reasoning, logical thought, and non-hackery behind your posts.
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Invalid comparison, terror is not flourishing to its greatest levels, with the greatest threats to the US under a republican.

Just under ole Obama.

And we both agree-terror flourishes under him.
 
Sherman123 said:
I'm not going to throw my arms up in righteous indignation at his death sentence. But I still oppose the death penalty and given the choice would commute his sentence to life in prison.
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Fair enough. In fact I think justice would be served either way, but I prefer the death penalty.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So why did you say it hurts a lot then moved the ol pain meter to only a "small amount"?
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Seriously? No matter how much he feels when he's executed, it won't come anywhere near the amount of pain he's inflicted. Pretty sad I have to explain that.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Can you answer my questions please? You know my answer to this, since you have used this talking point over and over and over and over and over and over again. Now I'm just trying to get your perspective and reasoning behind said such talking point you continuously use.


Its a "wedge issue" in your view only because its something you dont want to recognize as an important issue, or you probably dont even acknowledge it as an issue at all.


Really? "Biggest threat" or a threat?


:doh
"Ole cankles". :sarcasticclap What about all the Republican candidates? Why no criticism of them when they come out and give their positions? Oh right, I remember, the have a '(R)' next to their name! Here's Where the 2016 Candidates Stand on the Confederate Flag Issue - ABC News

But then again, politicians be them state or national cant address political problems going on at the state level and are being handled at the state level?


"Losing horribly"? Please explain? By what? The election results?
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You yourself agreed with my "talking point", objectively terror attacks are up under Obama, there is now a defacto terror state in the middle east as well. Dont you remember agreeing?

He said greatest threat-to our graduating military cadets.
Obama: No greater threat to future than climate change - CNN.com
Yes, he said that. :doh

I mentioned ole Cankles because she's a democrat, like you, and she's not a state politician. So apparently to her it is not just a state issue. :2wave:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/u...s-confederate-flag-shouldnt-fly-anywhere.html

Did you miss the mid term election results? The biggest democrat party defeat in the last century. :2wave: More of this is coming, btw. You will come to understand.
 
US Conservative said:
Invalid comparison, terror is not flourishing to its greatest levels,
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You still havent answered my question on this point: Ahhh I see we still use this talking point? How do you measure this? What does it mean to have "terrorism flourishing"? Whats the measure?

with the greatest threats to the US under a republican.
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What?

Just under ole Obama.
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So Obama? Obama? What?

And we both agree-terror flourishes under him.
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You see. My whole thing is this:
1.)Why do we always measure "terror" ever since 9/11/2001? Why is this like the starting point for terror in America? We kinda forget that attack happened under a guy with an (R) next to his name, so we dont count that terrorist attack, which just so happens to be the largest terrorist attack in the nation.
2.) When you say "terrorism has been flourishing" as in its flourshing in the middle east, well this may be a news flash for you, but it has been flourishing in the middle east ever since 3/19/2003.
3.)I know as much as you want to blame this all on that stickin Obama and no one else, I dont take the such narrow minded, and hackish approach you do. See the honest thing about it, is its many factors dating all the way back to good ol daddy Reagan. We got selling arms to Iraq, then selling arms to Iran, providing intel to Saddam, then he started using chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Iranian Kurds (which at the time we were ok with until August 1990 when we decided, hey you cant steal the Kuwaiti oil! Thats ours!), then the whole debacle about WMDS, then the de-Baathification (what a great idea that was), then the occupation, then the installing a corrupt authoritarian sectarian puppet, then the whole civil war. Also dont forget that this whole time that many big players in the region had special interests in Iraq and Saddam being overthrown, some for genuine reasons, other for destabilization reasons.
 
Moon said:
Seriously? No matter how much he feels when he's executed, it won't come anywhere near the amount of pain he's inflicted. Pretty sad I have to explain that.
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And soooo....?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
You still havent answered my question on this point: Ahhh I see we still use this talking point? How do you measure this? What does it mean to have "terrorism flourishing"? Whats the measure?


What?


So Obama? Obama? What?


You see. My whole thing is this:
1.)Why do we always measure "terror" ever since 9/11/2001? Why is this like the starting point for terror in America? We kinda forget that attack happened under a guy with an (R) next to his name, so we dont count that terrorist attack, which just so happens to be the largest terrorist attack in the nation.
2.) When you say "terrorism has been flourishing" as in its flourshing in the middle east, well this may be a news flash for you, but it has been flourishing in the middle east ever since 3/19/2003.
3.)I know as much as you want to blame this all on that stickin Obama and no one else, I dont take the such narrow minded, and hackish approach you do. See the honest thing about it, is its many factors dating all the way back to good ol daddy Reagan. We got selling arms to Iraq, then selling arms to Iran, providing intel to Saddam, then he started using chemical weapons against the Iranians and the Iranian Kurds (which at the time we were ok with until August 1990 when we decided, hey you cant steal the Kuwaiti oil! Thats ours!), then the whole debacle about WMDS, then the de-Baathification (what a great idea that was), then the occupation, then the installing a corrupt authoritarian sectarian puppet, then the whole civil war. Also dont forget that this whole time that many big players in the region had special interests in Iraq and Saddam being overthrown, some for genuine reasons, other for destabilization reasons.
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The intelligence chair did not say the biggest threat since 9/11-he said ever.

Facts are facts, I know leftists hate objective reality but that does not change it.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
And soooo....?
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What I said is not inconsistent with my original post. It's becoming clear you aren't following the conversation very well, so let me know what additional clarifications I can provide for you.
 
US Conservative said:
Ironic in light of your sig.
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My signature is about a fictional character...

Not casual, in fact I see prison rape as a bad thing-which is why I wont mind a bit if it happens to him.
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So prison rape is abhorrent to you... except when it isn't... ****ing solid logic there mate.

Just as I wont be upset when his heart is stopped-in fact maybe we should skip the sedatives before hand.
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I don't see too many people being upset about that either...

But again.

Your attitude towards prison rape is pretty telling of your overall world view.
 
US Conservative said:
You yourself agreed with my "talking point", objectively terror attacks are up under Obama, there is now a defacto terror state in the middle east as well. Dont you remember agreeing?
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How do you measure it? And has it only been "flourishing under Obama"? Because you talked about objectivity here, but it doesnt seem you are being very "objective"...

He said greatest threat-to our graduating military cadets.
Obama: No greater threat to future than climate change - CNN.com
Yes, he said that. :doh
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Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope. He did not. I didnt know that the US Congress was "graduating military cadets".

I mentioned ole Cankles because she's a democrat,
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Exactly. Shes a Democrat, and you are a Republican party hack. Why cant you just admit you are. Its ridiculous. You ignore one side while constantly criticizing the other, when you could be criticizing both sides, but instead you only criticize one side. Thus not only being a hypocrite but a hack.

like you, and she's not a state politician. So apparently to her it is not just a state issue. :2wave:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/u...s-confederate-flag-shouldnt-fly-anywhere.html
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I never denied she said anything about the confederate flag, so there is no need to present me with some sort of proof. But then again, you ignore yet another question asked, "But then again, politicians be them state or national cant address political problems going on at the state level and are being handled at the state level? "

Did you miss the mid term election results? The biggest democrat party defeat in the last century. :2wave: More of this is coming, btw. You will come to understand.
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I'm asking what makes you think the Democrats are going to loose seats? You think there is going to be another defeat? Of the same magnitude?
 
Jetboogieman said:
My signature is about a fictional character...



So prison rape is abhorrent to you... except when it isn't... ****ing solid logic there mate.



I don't see too many people being upset about that either...

But again.

Your attitude towards prison rape is pretty telling of your overall world view.
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Christ was an actual person, actually executed by crucifixion. Your parody makes light of that, even if you aren't religious-but you intended that.

Sometimes, abhorrent things are acceptable in obtaining justice. Like the death penalty. Hopefully you aren't suggesting that being for the death penalty in cases like these means killing is acceptable generally. I wouldn't want to see an innocent citizen imprisoned either.

As for prison rape, lets just say when it happens to mass murdering islamic terrorists-Im cool with it. Child molesters and rapists too. :cool:
 
Moon said:
What I said is not inconsistent with my original post. It's becoming clear you aren't following the conversation very well, so let me know what additional clarifications I can provide for you.
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You hoped it hurts a lot, then you personally hope it only hurts a little? Do you personally hope it hurts a lot or not? Or do you personally hope it hurts a little? Or do you hope it actually does hurt a lot and only personally hope it hurts a little? Just trying to figure out what caused the change or was it the whole time you only personally hope it hurts a little and misposted?
 
US Conservative said:
The intelligence chair did not say the biggest threat since 9/11-he said ever.
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We are in more danger than close to 3,000 Americans dying by the largest terrorist attack in the country?! :scared::scared::scared::scared::scared: Holy **** am I scared! We should be spying on everyone! Lets invade Oman!

Facts are facts, I know leftists hate objective reality but that does not change it.
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Was something I stated not factual? Why cant you reply to the points raised, but instead respond with this broad statement?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
You hoped it hurts a lot, then you personally hope it only hurts a little? Do you personally hope it hurts a lot or not? Or do you personally hope it hurts a little? Or do you hope it actually does hurt a lot and only personally hope it hurts a little? Just trying to figure out what caused the change or was it the whole time you only personally hope it hurts a little and misposted?
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Okay, so you don't understand basic English. Sorry I can't help you with that.
 
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