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House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Faced

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You are incorrect, we are at an elevated threat with the very group Obama allowed to come into existence, and then dismissed as the "jv" team. And they are growing the entire time.

And the threats continue...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/03/u...-seen-as-big-threat-authorities-say.html?_r=0

The group (The Islamic State) originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, which pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004. The group participated in the Iraqi insurgency, which had followed the March 2003 invasion of Iraq by Western forces. In January 2006, it joined other Sunni insurgent groups to form the Mujahideen Shura Council, which proclaimed the formation of the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) in October 2006.

Let's be very clear here about the timing and origin of the group now terrorizing the region. Obama's policies have certainly been beneficial to the group, but it was a Bush era development.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Security officials in New York, Washington ready for July Fourth weekend.....

There is high anxiety in some very high places right now over the potential for terror attacks in this country over the July Fourth holiday weekend. Police and security agencies are watching a confluence of key dates, observances and the growing reach of ISIS that they fear make the climate for attack especially worrisome.

All of it amid heightened fears of homegrown terrorism, inspired by the relentless calls for attacks from ISIS social media, focusing on the 4th of July holiday period and the Muslim holy days of Ramadan, which this year coincide.

In Washington, security will be more visible than usual. Bulletins warn police around the country that ISIS has called for attacks on government employees, law enforcement, sporting events, and other big gatherings. And the FBI is stepping up arrests of people who’ve been under surveillance for months, suspected of plotting attacks here: ten arrests in the past two weeks.....snip~

Security officials in New York, Washington ready for July Fourth weekend | KSN-TV


Some anxiety in high places, huh?

Yeah I told my sister who's flying today to Dallas to leave extra time. The main airport hubs will probably take longer to get through and have higher security than normal.
 
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Yeah I told my sister who's flying today to Dallas to leave extra time. The main airport hubs will probably take longer to get through and have higher security than normal.



They are doing the same here Ockham. :2wave: Increased visible security. Dogs on display too.

That Hotel attack in Tunisia and the Uptick on the chatter to hit all infidels during Ramadan....has our people a bit worried. They have increased attacks since Ramadan began.

Still this was the first mention of Ramadan and the 4th coinciding this year. Yet no specific attack called out. Some might want to wake up to the fact that AQ or Daesh. Might have learned a lesson and will wait to take credit for anything that happens. Rather than tip their hand.
 
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None of that changes the fact that the threat is real.

Real like Santa Claus? Real like the Easter Bunny? Real like the Pentagon Papers showed us?
 
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No, I embrace the doctrine of doing what we can to stop what we can, when we can. There is an awful lot of **** we can't do anything about-this isn't one of those things. We aren't talking about tornado's here-this is a threat we can address. If it does not suit your politics, you can pound sand.

This is the most specific info I have seen on what the threat is-cops, military, public officials all of whom are likely to be in public for the 4th of july weekend. All from the group that Obama said wasn't a threat.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/03/u...-seen-as-big-threat-authorities-say.html?_r=0

Doing what we can to stop what we can, when we can? Egads, that is painting with a vague and very broad brush.

Maybe an example is stopping Al Quaeda? Stop what we can even though our boys created what we are now trying to stop?

Pound sand? Golly, what about believing every single thing one is told by mendacious folk, without asking a question, ever? Same thing?

Happy Fourth.
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Security officials in New York, Washington ready for July Fourth weekend.....

There is high anxiety in some very high places right now over the potential for terror attacks in this country over the July Fourth holiday weekend. Police and security agencies are watching a confluence of key dates, observances and the growing reach of ISIS that they fear make the climate for attack especially worrisome.

All of it amid heightened fears of homegrown terrorism, inspired by the relentless calls for attacks from ISIS social media, focusing on the 4th of July holiday period and the Muslim holy days of Ramadan, which this year coincide.

In Washington, security will be more visible than usual. Bulletins warn police around the country that ISIS has called for attacks on government employees, law enforcement, sporting events, and other big gatherings. And the FBI is stepping up arrests of people who’ve been under surveillance for months, suspected of plotting attacks here: ten arrests in the past two weeks.....snip~

Security officials in New York, Washington ready for July Fourth weekend | KSN-TV


Some anxiety in high places, huh?

Anxiety in high places, already thwarted attacks, and there are posters in this thread who claim its a conspiracy, or that we shouldn't know about it. :doh
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Doing what we can to stop what we can, when we can? Egads, that is painting with a vague and very broad brush.

Maybe an example is stopping Al Quaeda? Stop what we can even though our boys created what we are now trying to stop?

Pound sand? Golly, what about believing every single thing one is told by mendacious folk, without asking a question, ever? Same thing?

Happy Fourth.

Actually I dont believe everything that doesn't fit my worldview is a conspiracy. Crazy, I know.
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Anxiety in high places, already thwarted attacks, and there are posters in this thread who claim its a conspiracy, or that we shouldn't know about it. :doh


Well at least the Feds admitted the calls for attacks by Daesh and its social media, which were focusing on the 4th of July and its coinciding with Ramadan. They didn't mention that at first.
 
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Actually I dont believe everything that doesn't fit my worldview is a conspiracy. Crazy, I know.

Well since you brought it up, do you believe that humans actually do conspire, ever?
 
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Well since you brought it up, do you believe that humans actually do conspire, ever?

If they're democrats he does.
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Real like Santa Claus? Real like the Easter Bunny? Real like the Pentagon Papers showed us?

No, real like the attack in Tunisia last week. You know the one that had 39 people that were killed for vacationing there. I know, I know, he was dressed like a tourist and then pulled out the AK Firing at women children and pretty much anything that moved.

Some wanted to just call him a madman until they found the connection to Daesh. Imagine that.
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

No, real like the attack in Tunisia last week. You know the one that had 39 people that were killed for vacationing there. I know, I know, he was dressed like a tourist and then pulled out the AK Firing at women children and pretty much anything that moved.

Some wanted to just call him a madman until they found the connection to Daesh. Imagine that.

what does that have to do with any threat level in the USA?
 
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what does that have to do with any threat level in the USA?

Well if you read the links. Those higher ups with the anxiety. Referenced that specific attack as well as the one in France.
 
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Well if you read the links. Those higher ups with the anxiety. Referenced that specific attack as well as the one in France.

and i ask again, what the hell does that tunisia attack have to do with threat levels in the USA?!


show us the ****ing connection
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

and i ask again, what the hell does that tunisia attack have to do with threat levels in the USA?!


show us the ****ing connection

Post 200. Is the rationale they used..... is that a good enough connection?

All of it amid heightened fears of homegrown terrorism, inspired by the relentless calls for attacks from ISIS social media, focusing on the 4th of July holiday period and the Muslim holy days of Ramadan, which this year coincide......snip~

Can you figure out that since Ramadan began and the calls for attacks increasing since then, that they were showing there was a cause to be concern and raise the level?
 
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No, real like the attack in Tunisia last week. You know the one that had 39 people that were killed for vacationing there. I know, I know, he was dressed like a tourist and then pulled out the AK Firing at women children and pretty much anything that moved.

Some wanted to just call him a madman until they found the connection to Daesh. Imagine that.

The odds of being hurt in a car crash are much greater than the odds of being hurt in a 'terrorist attack', as we argue about the real meaning of the term in the media, and comedians make fun of it. So I know that life is risky. I've been in 2 motorcycle wrecks and am still riding.

So I understand that those people really were killed there, and I'm sorry for it, just as I'm sorry for the deaths of other people.

My point is that the claim "the government protects ME from some gun-wielding wacko" is a false claim, easily. So to any and all, please spare me the absurd claim.

You've heard it before MMC, and I like your posts, but the GWOT is a hoax. It's real, by all means, but it's a hoax. :mrgreen:
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Well since you brought it up, do you believe that humans actually do conspire, ever?

Yes, but rarely. Its a red herring.

Now take a look at these lists, and tell me why you believe is simply a govt conspiracy to report them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States
 
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The odds of being hurt in a car crash are much greater than the odds of being hurt in a 'terrorist attack', as we argue about the real meaning of the term in the media, and comedians make fun of it. So I know that life is risky. I've been in 2 motorcycle wrecks and am still riding.

So I understand that those people really were killed there, and I'm sorry for it, just as I'm sorry for the deaths of other people.

My point is that the claim "the government protects ME from some gun-wielding wacko" is a false claim, easily. So to any and all, please spare me the absurd claim.

You've heard it before MMC, and I like your posts, but the GWOT is a hoax. It's real, by all means, but it's a hoax. :mrgreen:


Yeah, but notice the higher ups don't have anxieties over people getting killed in a car crash and those odds. What they do know, Daesh is ramping attacks and one fact stands out over many others. They have taken those attacks outside of their Claimed territory.

Although I wouldn't tell any to sit around and wait for the government to come lend them a helping hand. To be aware is to be alive.
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

Yes, but rarely. Its a red herring.

Now take a look at these lists, and tell me why you believe is simply a govt conspiracy to report them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsuccessful_terrorist_plots_in_the_United_States_post-9/11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

Rarely?

I guess that is where we differ, as I see 2 humans planning to do something as extremely common behavior. And that is all conspiracy is--2 humans or more planning something.

And to give the prosecutors something to do, they made it a crime for 2 people to plan to do something, if the government chose to describe the behavior as criminal.

Without the criminal angle, it is common behavior. Really, 2 people planning to have sex together is a conspiracy, especially if each is married to another person. ;)

Wikipedia is most useful, for sure. But instead of a grain of salt, about a gram is required, considering the way it can be edited. Like most websites, it seems to have some sort of spin as I see it. It's own style of political correctness.

911 was a magnificent deception, and all these years later is a bright and shining lie. The GWOT it spawned is also a hoax upon the American taxpayer and those of us who love the Constitution.

The Wiki article did not change my mind. :peace
 
Re: House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Face

The odds of being hurt in a car crash are much greater than the odds of being hurt in a 'terrorist attack', as we argue about the real meaning of the term in the media, and comedians make fun of it. So I know that life is risky. I've been in 2 motorcycle wrecks and am still riding.

So I understand that those people really were killed there, and I'm sorry for it, just as I'm sorry for the deaths of other people.

My point is that the claim "the government protects ME from some gun-wielding wacko" is a false claim, easily. So to any and all, please spare me the absurd claim.

You've heard it before MMC, and I like your posts, but the GWOT is a hoax. It's real, by all means, but it's a hoax. :mrgreen:

The odds of being murdered are pretty slim, so nobody should worry about it. The cops are conspiring to keep people worried n stuff. :doh
 
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Yeah, but notice the higher ups don't have anxieties over people getting killed in a car crash and those odds. What they do know, Daesh is ramping attacks and one fact stands out over many others. They have taken those attacks outside of their Claimed territory.

Although I wouldn't tell any to sit around and wait for the government to come lend them a helping hand. To be aware is to be alive.

War is hell my man!
 
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The odds of being murdered are pretty slim, so nobody should worry about it. The cops are conspiring to keep people worried n stuff. :doh

I see it as a bureaucratic response, more than anything else. Kinda like "build it and they will come" :) My grandfather was a cop, and I would prefer to think they are mostly honorable.

I do think that somebody way above the cops rank are fairly concerned about the public perception, keeping folks worried and such. Humans act differently out of fear, much closer to herd mentality.
 
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Rarely?

I guess that is where we differ, as I see 2 humans planning to do something as extremely common behavior. And that is all conspiracy is--2 humans or more planning something.

And to give the prosecutors something to do, they made it a crime for 2 people to plan to do something, if the government chose to describe the behavior as criminal.

Without the criminal angle, it is common behavior. Really, 2 people planning to have sex together is a conspiracy, especially if each is married to another person. ;)

Wikipedia is most useful, for sure. But instead of a grain of salt, about a gram is required, considering the way it can be edited. Like most websites, it seems to have some sort of spin as I see it. It's own style of political correctness.

911 was a magnificent deception, and all these years later is a bright and shining lie. The GWOT it spawned is also a hoax upon the American taxpayer and those of us who love the Constitution.

The Wiki article did not change my mind. :peace

con·spir·a·cy
kənˈspirəsē/Submit
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
"a conspiracy to destroy the government"
synonyms: plot, scheme, plan, machination, ploy, trick, ruse, subterfuge; informalracket
"a conspiracy to manipulate the results"
the action of plotting or conspiring.
"they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice"
synonyms: plotting, collusion, intrigue, connivance, machination, collaboration; treason
"conspiracy to commit murder"

When I and a friend are meeting for lunch we aren't conspiring.

Conspiracies are generally hard to keep hidden, and as the number of people involved rises, the odds drop to exceedingly low. So to claim that the worlds govts are conspiring to keep Americans "fearful" despite the clear evidence that these threats are out there-is well hard to defend.

And the irony is not lost on me-that after stating the odds of being harmed in a terror plot are slim, you are relying on an even more remote explaination

Perhaps the fire department is conspiring to keep people afraid of fires.
 
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When I and a friend are meeting for lunch we aren't conspiring.

Conspiracies are generally hard to keep hidden, and as the number of people involved rises, the odds drop to exceedingly low. So to claim that the worlds govts are conspiring to keep Americans "fearful" despite the clear evidence that these threats are out there-is well hard to defend.

And the irony is not lost on me-that after stating the odds of being harmed in a terror plot are slim, you are relying on an even more remote explaination

Perhaps the fire department is conspiring to keep people afraid of fires.

When you and your friend meet for lunch, you could be conspiring, planning something illegal, but depending upon circumstances that might be the decision of some prosecutor. This is a hypothetical. No, the fire department is not conspiring to keep people afraid of fires. I never considered the thought until you mentioned it.

If the CIA can smuggle dope, and they can and do, then some other branch can conduct certain exercises too. Outfits like Blackwater do exist, and they do what they are told.

I understand that things like Tunisia happen, they've been happening for at least decades. I would simply like to know if the guy was hired to do that, or any other pertinent information, but I know the truth will not be forthcoming from the government.
 
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When you and your friend meet for lunch, you could be conspiring, planning something illegal, but depending upon circumstances that might be the decision of some prosecutor. This is a hypothetical. No, the fire department is not conspiring to keep people afraid of fires. I never considered the thought until you mentioned it.

If the CIA can smuggle dope, and they can and do, then some other branch can conduct certain exercises too. Outfits like Blackwater do exist, and they do what they are told.

I understand that things like Tunisia happen, they've been happening for at least decades. I would simply like to know if the guy was hired to do that, or any other pertinent information, but I know the truth will not be forthcoming from the government.

I doubt he was hired, in light of the decades of similar attacks by similar radicalized individuals.
 
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