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Gunn: Confederate part of state flag 'needs to be removed'

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Gunn: Confederate part of state flag 'needs to be removed'

Mississippi House Speaker Philip Gunn said Monday night that the Confederate emblem in the state's official flag has to go.

"We must always remember our past, but that does not mean we must let it define us," Gunn, a Clinton Republican, said in a statement. "As a Christian, I believe our state's flag has become a point of offense that needs to be removed. We need to begin having conversations about changing Mississippi's flag."

It's the first time a Mississippi Republican elected official has publicly called for the removal of the emblem that served as the battle flag flown by the Confederate army during the Civil War. Later, it was adopted by anti-Civil Rights groups.
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kudos to Mr Gunn. A bold stance in that state, to be certain.
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About time...
 
So silly...

The Stars and Stripes, the Flag of the North flew for over 80 years while Slavery was legal.

Allot longer than the Flag that representer the South, which wasn't the Confederate battle flag.

The North never had an issue with slavery until the South wanted to secede from the Union.

The average Confederate soldier didn't go off and risk his life to keep slavery legal. They were typically poor working class farmers who couldnt afford a slave if the wanted one.

Slaves were used by the Rich both North and South.
 
Someone, somewhere is offended by flags. We must remove all flags.

Remember, its offensive to fly the Stars and Stripes on May 5th.
 
Fenton said:
So silly...

The Stars and Stripes, the Flag of the North flew for over 80 years while Slavery was legal.

Allot longer than the Flag that representer the South, which wasn't the Confederate battle flag.

The North never had an issue with slavery until the South wanted to secede from the Union.

The average Confederate soldier didn't go off and risk his life to keep slavery legal. They were typically poor working class farmers who couldnt afford a slave if the wanted one.

Slaves were used by the Rich both North and South.
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You may to read a little more about American history. There are some things that are wrong and misleading in this post.
 
Gunn's right. I live in Mississippi. My roots here go back to when the state was first settled. I have ancestors who were prosperous slave owners. My great-great-great grandfather fought at the Battle of Vicksburg. I'm proud of that, because in the wake of the siege of the town his story is more about the will to survive and the human spirit than the legacy of slavery. But the Confederate Battle Flag was added to the state flag during the defiant Jim Crow period. It had nothing to do with preserving the state's "heritage." It needs to go.
 
One of the great non issues of our day. People who care about the tragedy in Charleston but can't be personally involved in the cities classy reaction to it want to be involved from afar. To make a statement. I understand the desire. If I were in Charleston I'd have walked across the bridge in solidarity with the rest of the marchers. An old friend from high school occasionally sings in the choir in the church where it happened and went to the service there last Sunday. She's white. I understand wanting to be involved. Creating an issue which is really unrelated to the shooting is all about style without substance. Live a colorblind life. That's the real testimony that will honor the victims of the tragedy. Forget the tabloid nonsense.
 
Tim the plumber said:
The Stars and Bars is just as offensive as the Swastica.
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So much ignorance surrounds this issue. Its no wonder people could or would compare the Swastika to the Confederate flag.

Anyway, the Confederate Battle Flag and the " Stars and Bars " are two seperate flags.

They are not even remotely similar.
 
Kreton said:
You may to read a little more about American history. There are some things that are wrong and misleading in this post.
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Well DO tell.

Educate us all. What's misleading in my post ?
 
sawdust said:
Creating an issue which is really unrelated to the shooting is all about style without substance.
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I don't agree. Symbols are powerful, because they can incite us to hatred, or they can provoke our collective conscience. Embracing the latter can move us toward the colorblind society you profess to seek.


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Confederate flag must be protected, but I dont think that war is a solution when you are weak and inferior.
 
sawdust said:
I much prefer substance to symbolism.
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You're in the minority then. In about three months months, try wearing a Lions jersey at Soldier Field and flipping off the first 100 Bears fans you see.
 
Samhain said:
Someone, somewhere is offended by flags. We must remove all flags.

Remember, its offensive to fly the Stars and Stripes on May 5th.
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Overly simplistic. Let's get a movement to make a flag for your state of two gay guys humping a bible. I mean if taking offense is for wimps and all, lets see whose crying then. Of course this new flag wouldn't really have a history of lynchings behind it but I'm sure we can work hard to find the most offensive flag we can.
 
Fenton said:
So silly...

The Stars and Stripes, the Flag of the North flew for over 80 years while Slavery was legal.

Allot longer than the Flag that representer the South, which wasn't the Confederate battle flag.

The North never had an issue with slavery until the South wanted to secede from the Union.

The average Confederate soldier didn't go off and risk his life to keep slavery legal. They were typically poor working class farmers who couldnt afford a slave if the wanted one.

Slaves were used by the Rich both North and South.
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The Stars and Stripes never represented an entity that specifically fought for slavery.
 
poweRob said:
Overly simplistic. Let's get a movement to make a flag for your state of two gay guys humping a bible. I mean if taking offense is for wimps and all, lets see whose crying then. Of course this new flag wouldn't really have a history of lynchings behind it but I'm sure we can work hard to find the most offensive flag we can.
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I'm offended by your offensive defense. You are now being boycotted.
 
mac said:
The Stars and Stripes never represented an entity that specifically fought for slavery.
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And neither did the Confederate Battle Flag.

You think tens of thousands of Confederate Soldiers went off to die for slaves ?

The majority of those soldiers were poor farmers, who couldn't afford to own a slave if they wanted one.

The South wanted to secede and the North never had a problem with slavery until then.
 
But it's all right to fly the Mexican flag or the Muslim flag, right? That's ridiculous,, I'm shocked. The thing is not in flags, but in people. That flag should be one of the least of American concerns.
 
Fenton said:
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The South wanted to secede and the North never had a problem with slavery until then.
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That would make sense if you ignored, oh, I don't know -- a good portion of American history leading up to the war.

Little things like history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding,

or things like the Missouri Compromise,
the Nullification Crisis,
the Wilmot Proviso,
the Compromise of 1850,
the Kansas-Nebraska Act,
the 1852 SC Convention,
Bleeding, bloody Kansas, Missouri ruffians...
Sumners caning,
the Dred Scott decision,
the John Brown Affair,
the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other ****ing detail that involved dealing with the South on the slavery issue that led up to the Civil War...
 
Paperview said:
That would make sense if you ignored, oh, I don't know -- a good portion of American history leading up to the war.

Little things like history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding,

or things like the Missouri Compromise,
the Nullification Crisis,
the Wilmot Proviso,
the Compromise of 1850,
the Kansas-Nebraska Act,
the 1852 SC Convention,
Bleeding, bloody Kansas, Missouri ruffians...
Sumners caning,
the Dred Scott decision,
the John Brown Affair,
the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other ****ing detail that involved dealing with the South on the slavery issue that led up to the Civil War...
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Explain why the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 wasn't repealed until 1864.
 
Paperview said:
That would make sense if you ignored, oh, I don't know -- a good portion of American history leading up to the war.

Little things like history of our Constitutional compromises at the Founding,

or things like the Missouri Compromise,
the Nullification Crisis,
the Wilmot Proviso,
the Compromise of 1850,
the Kansas-Nebraska Act,
the 1852 SC Convention,
Bleeding, bloody Kansas, Missouri ruffians...
Sumners caning,
the Dred Scott decision,
the John Brown Affair,
the threatened expansion of slavery in other territories... and every other ****ing detail that involved dealing with the South on the slavery issue that led up to the Civil War...
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Yea, the North thought slavery was so repugnant they allowed it to continue for over 80 years.
 
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