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NRA executive suggests slain Charleston pastor to blame for gun deaths

Agreed. Apologists for this kind of monster are almost as bad as the shooter himself.

I don't see that being an apologist for the murderer.
 
Oh look a Republican-in-hiding declaring that all we need is "More guns".

Total insanity. The kid had a gun because his lunatic Republican father gave the nut racist a pistol for his birthday (the father should be arrested). We need NO handguns being legal and hunting rifles ONLY with permits ONLY.
uh why do you pretend to be a moderate when just about every one of your posts is far left GOP bashing psychobabble? you want to ban handguns and violate the constitution? that makes you a far far leftwing extremist

BTW moderators I smell Socketry afoot
 
Because everyone should own a gun regardless of their mental state.

That's just plain stupid. are you pretending some responsible people actually believe that?
 
The only person to blame for the 9 dead Black people in Charleston is the White racist who did the shooting.
 
Total insanity. The kid had a gun because his lunatic Republican father gave the nut racist a pistol for his birthday (the father should be arrested).

No, the shooter received money (a common gift) for his birthday. He then used that money to purchase a pistol. There is no evidence that the shooter's family tolerated, let alone facilitated or exacerbated rascist beliefs.

This is in contrast to the mother of the Sandy Hook shooter (purportedly a registered democrat) who was very aware that her son was mentally ill, yet still decided to keeppowerful high capacity, low recoil weapons in her home. She also concluded that shooting would be good way to instill discipline on her son as well.
 
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No, the shooter received money (a common gift) for his birthday. He then used that money to purchase a pistol. There is no evidence that the shooter's family tolerated, let alone facilitated or exacerbated rascist beliefs.

Yeah there is. Their son. He said he wanted to "Save my country from you people". Republicans say that all the time about Obama and blacks.
 
No, the shooter received money (a common gift) for his birthday. He then used that money to purchase a pistol. There is no evidence that the shooter's family tolerated, let alone facilitated or exacerbated rascist beliefs.

don't derail a good anti gun-anti GOP rant with facts now!

I wonder where he bought the gun. to do it legally it had to have been after he turned 21. However, other sources say his father purchased it and gave it to him. not a crime unless the father knew the shooter was a "prohibited person" under the relevant gun control act of 1968 (18 USC 922 et seq)
 
Cotton might be "insensitive" and a "monster," but he's got a point: Another mass shooting in a "gun free zone."

He has no point. Churches should not allow guns in a house of Worship.
 
The victim's family may actually be good folks, you never know on that type of thing, there was actually a guy arrested for a murder here who came from a fantastic family of hard working farmers. However, I agree with you, the murderer's family is the lowest on the priority list right now.

EDIT - The shooter's family instead of victim's. Can't believe that one slipped through.

They're not victims. They may be affected by his actions, but they're not victims of his actions. The only victims here are the 9 black people who were killed by an admitted racist.
 
They're not victims. They may be affected by his actions, but they're not victims of his actions. The only victims here are the 9 black people who were killed by an admitted racist.
Yep, you're right, I wasn't paying close enough attention and chose the wrong word. The family of the shooter are certainly not victims, my concession is they may(may not even) be good people but the judge should not be putting any priority on their feelings right now.
 
He has no point. Churches should not allow guns in a house of Worship.

why not? are you saying worshippers are less responsible than say mall shoppers, TGIF diners, Victoria Secret Lingerie customers or Ford Truck potential buyers?

or do you believe "GOD" will intervene and strike down infidels seeking to harm the faithful

what a stupid suggestion
 
why not? are you saying worshippers are less responsible than say mall shoppers, TGIF diners, Victoria Secret Lingerie customers or Ford Truck potential buyers?

or do you believe "GOD" will intervene and strike down infidels seeking to harm the faithful

what a stupid suggestion

What about house of Worship do you fail to understand?
 
What about house of Worship do you fail to understand?

what about worshippers make them either immune from criminal attacks or incapable of responsibly possessing a firearm

there is no reason why a church should be a victim disarmament zone.

can you tell us why-other than you apparently are against people owning or carrying firearms no matter what?
 
Yeah there is. Their son. He said he wanted to "Save my country from you people". Republicans say that all the time about Obama and blacks.

Spare me, do you have specific knowledge about the family, (one that you can post a link to a source)? My guess is you dont. So unless you can post a link affirming that the shooter's family exacerbated his rascist feeling by say, taking him to extremist meetings, buying him certain "literatuire", skin head music etc. , you conclusion is simply a rant.
I wonder where he bought the gun. to do it legally it had to have been after he turned 21. However, other sources say his father purchased it and gave it to him. not a crime unless the father knew the shooter was a "prohibited person" under the relevant gun control act of 1968 (18 USC 922 et seq)
Would a private seller (non FFL vendor) be obligated to adhere to the over 21 law?
 
what about worshippers make them either immune from criminal attacks or incapable of responsibly possessing a firearm
What, have guns everywhere is your solution. Yeah that makes sense.

there is no reason why a church should be a victim disarmament zone.
A disarmament Zone- WTH is that -

can you tell us why-other than you apparently are against people owning or carrying firearms no matter what?
Where did I state that?
 
What, have guns everywhere is your solution. Yeah that makes sense.


A disarmament Zone- WTH is that -


Where did I state that?

so your solution-in the face of criminals seeking mass murder-is to make sure victims are disarmed.
 
so your solution-in the face of criminals seeking mass murder-is to make sure victims are disarmed.

Kerist on a Cross, where are you getting this from?
Not from my posts.
Your allegations appear to be rehashed from other gun threads.
And the answer to the points below are? Only 2 questions, take your time to look for another prepared retort.
A disarmament Zone- WTH is that?

What, have guns everywhere is your solution. Yeah that makes sense.
 
Kerist on a Cross, where are you getting this from?
Not from my posts.
Your allegations appear to be rehashed from other gun threads.
And the answer to the points below are? Only 2 questions, take your time to look for another prepared retort.
A disarmament Zone- WTH is that?

What, have guns everywhere is your solution. Yeah that makes sense.

you said people shouldn't be allowed to legally carry in a church

why not

1) because you don't trust church goers to responsibly carry weapons

2) OR-you think Houses of worship are immune from racist terrorists or other homicidal assholes?

what is it that makes a church a place where good people cannot carry firearms

Your solution is to DISARM potential victims

gun free zones don't keep killers disarmed-only good people DUH
 
Yep, you're right, I wasn't paying close enough attention and chose the wrong word. The family of the shooter are certainly not victims, my concession is they may(may not even) be good people but the judge should not be putting any priority on their feelings right now.

That's why I'm not holding my breath. I already heard Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley pay lip service and say she wanted the death penalty. However, my own opposition to it aside, I doubt that is going to happen. Historically, white people are rarely executed for interracial murders. Source:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=-d...ATzjaqwAg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
That's why I'm not holding my breath. I already heard Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley pay lip service and say she wanted the death penalty. However, my own opposition to it aside, I doubt that is going to happen. Historically, white people are rarely executed for interracial murders. Source:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=-d...ATzjaqwAg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

you want that bastard punished? good, so do I. Put him in the general prison population in a south carolina hard time penitentiary. the Death Penalty is too easy for someone like him. McVeigh got off easy too
 
you said people shouldn't be allowed to legally carry in a church

why not

1) because you don't trust church goers to responsibly carry weapons

2) OR-you think Houses of worship are immune from racist terrorists or other homicidal assholes?

what is it that makes a church a place where good people cannot carry firearms

Your solution is to DISARM potential victims

gun free zones don't keep killers disarmed-only good people DUH

Now that you have run off the deep end, I hope you did not injure yourself.
You just don't get it do ya?
My opinion, no guns in Gods House.

Here is my original post that somehow caused your underwear to go into a ball crushing knot.
He has no point. Churches should not allow guns in a house of Worship.
 
That's why I'm not holding my breath. I already heard Nimrata Nikki Randhawa Haley pay lip service and say she wanted the death penalty. However, my own opposition to it aside, I doubt that is going to happen. Historically, white people are rarely executed for interracial murders. Source:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=-d...ATzjaqwAg&ved=0CEkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
He deserves the death penalty, I am neither pro or anti on that topic but more on the end of it should be on the table for horrible crimes. This kid will probably go for the insanity defense and honestly I personally hope it doesn't stick.
 
you want that bastard punished? good, so do I. Put him in the general prison population in a south carolina hard time penitentiary. the Death Penalty is too easy for someone like him. McVeigh got off easy too
I was thinking the same thing, the warden should put him in general population and the rest of the staff should be "distracted with other issues" when said GP decides to tee off on the little POS. I know I would pull a Sgt. Shultz if I were responsible for his safety.
 
Now that you have run off the deep end, I hope you did not injure yourself.
You just don't get it do ya?
My opinion, no guns in Gods House.

Here is my original post that somehow caused your underwear to go into a ball crushing knot.

so you have no rational argument other than its "god's house"

you are the one that has had a logical meltdown not me

you still cannot give us a rational reason why a church should have different laws than a mall, a truck dealership, a chain restaurant or a lingerie store

your opinion has no support and it is you that apparently has garment soiling problems since you seem to think Churches are immune to criminal attacks
 
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