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Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224:1119]

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Fenton said:
And your'e " unaffiliated " ??

Lol !! No, your'e just a disingenuous leftist hack.

Baltimore has some of the toughest gun laws in the Nation. Hows it working put for them ?
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You think everyone who thinks pro-gun nuts are nuts is a leftist? Most moderate people think NRA types are certifiable.

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Kreton said:
Get a 2nd cookie. You have out debated me again. Way to prove your point on the subject. :bravo:


If you get around to it, you could attempt to reply to the actual context of my post with an actual rebuttal since some people use this website to debate things. If you have time. If not, saying go read works too. Either way.
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Are we debating, now? If so, what are we debating about?
 
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Unaffiliated said:
You think everyone who thinks pro-gun nuts are nuts is a leftist? Most moderate people think NRA types are certifiable.

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No I think people that broad brush a entire ideology while claiming they're " unaffiliated " lack conviction and courage.

Again, Baltimore has some of the toughest gun laws in America, but some of the worse Black on Black crime and gun violence in the Nation.

" Black lives matter " only when they're taken by some nut or a white Police Officer.
 
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Unaffiliated said:
The kid was following basic Republican ideology 101. Try not to lie to our faces. Republicans scream on a daily basis how "Obama and people like him are taking away our country". (As if America is anymore theirs than ours)
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I would like you to expand on that. What is Republican Ideology 101? Who is screaming that? Who is theirs and ours?

Also you didnt answer any other questions I posted. You are saying I am lying when all I did was ask you questions. How does me asking you to explain what you mean so I can understand your position constitute me lying?
 
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Threegoofs said:
Gosh! What could the connection be? Mentally ill racist man gets easy availabilty of guns and ammo? I dont understand the issue? Its so confusing.

Again:

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Gosh. What can be done? Is there some sort of connection between mass shootings and the US? Could it be the soil composition? Something in the water? Who knows? :roll:
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You keep quoting the onion. Why?

You can talk all you want about this. But, and you keep being asked, what gun laws would have prevented this? Maybe we should pass a law that any mentally ill violent racists who plan on shooting up black churches should voluntarily come forward and put on a promise ring swearing not to obtain firearms. That should do it. When you submit this to your state senator feel free to leave my name off of it.
 
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Unaffiliated said:
The kid was following basic Republican ideology 101. Try not to lie to our faces. Republicans scream on a daily basis how "Obama and people like him are taking away our country". (As if America is anymore theirs than ours)
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Interesting how you quoted Kreton and yet ignored his question, which is a good one: What gun laws would have prevented this?
 
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Moot said:
Are we debating, now? If so, what are we debating about?
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I replied to you probably 15 pages ago and your come back was for me to follow the thread. Even though you'll probably find this sexy yellow smiley on most pages throughout. Clearly I've been following a long. Rather than actually address my response to you, you choose to just make silly statements that really don't add anything. Since I have been addressing your need to reply to me when you have nothing to say.
 
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Fenton said:
No I think people that broad brush a entire ideology while claiming they're " unaffiliated " lack conviction and courage.

Again, Baltimore has some of the toughest gun laws in America, but some of the worse Black on Black crime and gun violence in the Nation.

" Black lives matter " only when they're taken by some nut or a white Police Officer.
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You are the biased one sir. Nobody else. Nobody should have handguns or automatic rifles.

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Oh look a terrorist... errr it's Sarah Palin prominent Republican!!!
 
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Unaffiliated said:
Lunatic ultra conservative father gives his openly radical son a gun for his birthday. Guns laws need to be tightened so badly in this country and yet have so so many raving nuts on the right that are 100+ years behind the rest of the civilized world on this issue. The sickest part of all is to see the republicans run around trying to pretend this has nothing to do with their pro gun ideology when it has everything to do with it.
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I am always happy to see people show their contempt for the Second Amendment so openly. Most of them seem to have the same contempt for the First Amendment. I don't know if you could understand the Supreme Court's Second Amendment decisions in D.C. v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago if you read them. But they make clear that the right to keep and bear arms is both individual and fundamental, and that it is a limitation on both the federal and state governments. That is the law in this country, and you can like it, or lump it.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Gosh. What can be done? Is there some sort of connection between mass shootings and the US? Could it be the soil composition? Something in the water? Who knows? :roll:
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Yes, who knows? Maybe ask the Norwegians? They might know something about it.
And damn it, someone place that gun under arrest!
 
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Unaffiliated said:
The kid was following basic Republican ideology 101. Try not to lie to our faces. Republicans scream on a daily basis how "Obama and people like him are taking away our country". (As if America is anymore theirs than ours)
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But, you've made a huge error. Obama, and the people like him, are of no particular race. They are leftist, statists, and big government, anti-personal freedom types. You know, the tyrannical types.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I gave you an article that clearly indicates that poor white Americans, in the vast majority, vote Republican.
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Not one line in that article of yours stated that a majority of poor whites vote Republican. Not on single line.

If you disagree do what I told you to do in the first place and simply quote the line and evidence.

Now, if you're going to quibble that not all poor white Americans vote, I won't argue with you.
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Nope - I never said that. You are inventing straw men of your own.

However, the vast majority of poor white Americans who do vote or when they vote, vote Republican, your little dance not withstanding.
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I did no dance. All I did was back you into a corner of your own making and demand you present proof of your allegation. And your article contains no such proof. But prove me wrong simply by quoting it right here.

Of course, you will not do so because the article does not contain that evidence you need to save yourself.

If your only interest is playing little semantic gotcha games, go find one of the many liberal trolls who frequent this site - you'll find kindred spirits, like yourself, who have zero interest in discussing the actual issues.
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No - my interest is in getting you to support your claim of fact with verifiable evidence. Something which you have been woefully impotent to do so far. Your linked article contained no such data. If you believe I am wrong and you are correct, simply quote that evidence right here and I will be glad to both apologize and admit you are correct.

And if you cannot - and you will not be able to do so - I fully expect you to apologize and admit that I am correct. If you are a person of honor and integrity that is.
 
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Mithros said:
He wanted to cause a race war and to promote segregation. That's political.
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Has this scum actually said that or are you making it up?
His cause was at least as political as the Boston Marathon bombings. Why would you view this as a different type of act?
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What were is politics versus those of the Islamic terrorists?
 
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Unaffiliated said:
Because no civilized country allows them with the insane laws we have.
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So again I am asking you to explain your position here. 4th time I believe. Please inform me, what insane laws we have. What laws do you believe would have prevented this shooting? You keep posting anti gun posts. But you are absolutely failing to provide any real solutions to the problem. You also seem to point a lot of fingers at conservatives like liberals and democrats don't own guns. I can assure you they do.
 
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Kreton said:
I replied to you probably 15 pages ago and your come back was for me to follow the thread. Even though you'll probably find this sexy yellow smiley on most pages throughout. Clearly I've been following a long. Rather than actually address my response to you, you choose to just make silly statements that really don't add anything. Since I have been addressing your need to reply to me when you have nothing to say.
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I was talking to TD and you came in at the end of an off topic discussion. Were you hoping to keep derailing the thread or did you not follow the discussion? Either way, at this point I'm not really that interested in what you have to say that warrants any further response from me to you.
 
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Grant said:
Has this scum actually said that or are you making it up?
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His friends and family have come out and said it. Including an uncle and his roommate. Which brings up the disturbing question of, If these people knew this about him. Why didnt they notify someone? Get him help? something. They ignored it.
 
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Moot said:
I was talking to TD and you came in at the end of an off topic discussion. Were you hoping to keep derailing thread or did you not follow the discussion? Either way, at this point I'm really not that interested in what you have to say that warrants any further response from me to you.
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I replied to a post you made, and my post was in direct context to your post, and that means I was attempting to derail the discussion? Wow. ok then. If you are not interested in having a discussion about your post stop hitting the reply button.
 
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Kreton said:
His friends and family have come out and said it. Including an uncle and his roommate. Which brings up the disturbing question of, If these people knew this about him. Why didnt they notify someone? Get him help? something. They ignored it.
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No they didnt ignore it!

They bought him a gun for his birthday!
 
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Threegoofs said:
No they didnt ignore it!

They bought him a gun for his birthday!
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His roommate and uncle did not buy him the gun they were aware of his beliefs, and they were aware that he had the gun. At the very least these 2 guys probably could have prevented this. So yes they did ignore it.
 
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Uncle was the one who said he'd been bought a gun, Dad has sice claimed he's only been given money (presumably enough to buy one.) What American gun law disallows white supremacist racists from buying guns?
 
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Threegoofs said:
It should be obvious as to why if you have any self awareness at all.
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It isn't. Explain how that article addresses how gun control laws will decrease these types of shooting and how those laws should read.
 
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