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Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224:1119]

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haymarket said:
I think we all need to be concerned what his politics are. A person who embraces extremist politics can be living in a reality that is not the same reality the rest of us live in. Their extremist political beliefs give them an alternate set of values and the normal sense or actions that may be considered as right or wrong are simply replaced with their own standards that are a product of their own belief system.

It causes a type of mental illness which seems to be popping up more and more as society becomes more and more fractured.
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At 21 his political views are probably still forming. It's possible though to raise a racist and I would look long and hard at his family and childhood. It doesn't matter much at this point what political lean he has because his mental illness negates any rational thought.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
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I'm not sure DP policy allows this, but the name is Dylann Roof. Under "Family and Relationships," the page states, "No family members to show." I've clicked on several of his "friends'" profiles, but none is talking about any of this; it's just the usual inane and self-absorbed selfies stuff.
 
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countryboy said:
Why do you leave 9/11 out? You are transparent as glass.
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Because it's the Southern Poverty Law center so they do everything they can to flag the statistics to say what they want.
 
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jmotivator said:
No, I've already covered that terribly flawed article by the left wing Southern Poverty Law center. Their classification of
"Right wing" is flawed, and their tallies of jihadist are equally flawed.

Lies, damn lies and statistics.
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The fruitcakes at the Southern Poverty Law Center believe that Ben Carson is a hate monger because he doesn't like abortion. The whole organization is a hate group and should take a long walk off a short pier.
 
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haymarket said:
I think we all need to be concerned what his politics are. A person who embraces extremist politics can be living in a reality that is not the same reality the rest of us live in. Their extremist political beliefs give them an alternate set of values and the normal sense or actions that may be considered as right or wrong are simply replaced with their own standards that are a product of their own belief system.

It causes a type of mental illness which seems to be popping up more and more as society becomes more and more fractured.
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I think you need to know his politics. I don't. His actions are a symptom of mental illness and not the other way around. When you can post your bona fides to make a clinical diagnosis, let me know.
 
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Lutherf said:
I do understand. What's important to you is that Roof is a racist. In fact you seem to be putting more emphasis on his racism than on the fact that he killed people.
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Would white supremacist, be a more acceptable descriptor? He got the gun for his birthday. Great choice, mum or dad.
 
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sawdust said:
At 21 his political views are probably still forming. It's possible though to raise a racist and I would look long and hard at his family and childhood. It doesn't matter much at this point what political lean he has because his mental illness negates any rational thought.
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Yes. This young man is mentally ill. Cold comfort to those who are grieving and who are going to have to come to grips with the incomprehensible, I know.
 
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PoS said:
If you want to include 9/11 I guess that means we'll have to include all lynchings and racist hate crimes dating back to the founding of the colonies and you'll still be proven wrong then...
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If you want to go back to lynchings then you will have to go back to the Barbary pirates, and the Ottoman conquests and the Armenian genocide and so on.

Your dumb as dirt SPLC statistic conveniently began their look back just after the 9/11 attacks ands you know full well why those lying a-holes did it.
 
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Lutherf said:
I do understand. What's important to you is that Roof is a racist. In fact you seem to be putting more emphasis on his racism than on the fact that he killed people.
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rhinefire said:
The got him in North Carolina so good police work again. You know, the police are the scum of the earth that shoot all black people. I wonder why they even bothered to capture him after all the victims were all black.

The story is he was in attendance with the people in the church for an hour before he started shooting. That means he did the killing with a handgun and unless he reloaded it was most likely a 9mm or a 40 cal. as the both have higher capacity clips than the 45. They must have all been head shots. Gruesome stuff.
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Thanks for the technical information and visual detail. Are gun clingers now going to critique the weapon and shooting technique?
 
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nota bene said:
Yes. This young man is mentally ill. Cold comfort to those who are grieving and who are going to have to come to grips with the incomprehensible, I know.
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What makes him mentally ill?
 
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Hatuey said:
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I'd be asking that question too if I hadn't seen the diversity in his so-called "friends" list.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
" I don't want to know his motivation, why he did it, if we could cause change so this sort of thing is reduced, I just want him buried.....along with my head.....nahnahnahnah I can't hear you!"
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How awesome it would be for you if I'd said or implied any of that. The guy has been in custody for like 5 minutes so no one knows why he did it. His motivation will be determined during the police investigation, so you might want to hold off on your cheerleading or rationalizations (depending on the findings) until then.
 
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nota bene said:
Yes. This young man is mentally ill. Cold comfort to those who are grieving and who are going to have to come to grips with the incomprehensible, I know.
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You're right, it's no comfort and it's a tragedy. I think the guy is crazier than a **** house rat. I'm almost sorry he was taken peacefully but I understand the desire to know if he had help in any way.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Political ideology includes social views, it includes views on race, and is made manifest by the actions one commits. Again, this was the ultimate authoritarian act, most authoritarians are conservative.
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Pol Pot, Lennin, Stalin, Castro, Chavez....oh yea most authoritarians are Conservatives.....Lol
 
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nota bene said:
I'd be asking that question too if I hadn't seen the diversity in his so-called "friends" list.
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Friends on FB mean absolutely nothing about a person's views on a specific topic.
 
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Hatuey said:
What makes him mentally ill?
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What sane person goes into a church and kills 9 people, well besides Muslims in Syria, but I digress.
 
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Hatuey said:
Friends on FB mean absolutely nothing about a person's views on a specific topic.
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I'm not into FB and the other stupid social media stuff, but AFAIK in order to be on that "friends" list the owner of the page has to accept the friendship request. So yes, it does say something that a supposed racist would accept their target of hate as friends.
 
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sawdust said:
At 21 his political views are probably still forming. It's possible though to raise a racist and I would look long and hard at his family and childhood. It doesn't matter much at this point what political lean he has because his mental illness negates any rational thought.
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Right.

I'm going to speculate a little here but my guess is that he had a crush on a girl that ended up dating a black guy and that's what set this off. The whole "You're raping our women" thing just screams more sexual than racial.
 
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jmotivator said:
Because it's the Southern Poverty Law center so they do everything they can to flag the statistics to say what they want.
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The SPLC's labeling of people and groups is done to justify their own existence.
 
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Someone posted on his fb page.

I don't know you, but when I searched for your name from the news outlets it led me here. You're not captured yet, so there is a chance that you may see this message. I don't look at you with the eyes of hatred, or judge you by your appearance or race, but I look at you as a human being that made a horrible decision to take the lives of 9 living & breathing people. Children do not grow up with hatred in their hearts. In this world we are born color blind. Somewhere along the line, you were taught to hate people that are not like you, and that is truly tragic. You have accomplished nothing from this killing, but planting seeds of pain that will forever remain in the hearts of the families that lost their lives and countless hearts around our country. If you're still out there and you have your phone with you... Give your heart to Jesus and confess your sins with a heart of forgiveness. He is the only one that can save your soul and forgive you for the terrible act that you have done. I love you Dylann... even in the midst of the darkness and pain you've caused, but more importantly HE loves you.*
If you would like to make that confession, then repeat these words.*
Dear God in heaven, I come to you in the name of Jesus. I acknowledge to You that I am a sinner, and I am sorry for my sins and the life that I have lived; I need your forgiveness.
I believe that your only begotten Son Jesus Christ shed His precious blood on the cross at Calvary and died for my sins, and I am now willing to turn from my sin.
You said in Your Holy Word, Romans 10:9 that if we confess the Lord our God and believe in our hearts that God raised Jesus from the dead, we shall be saved.
Right now I confess Jesus as the Lord of my soul. With my heart, I believe that God raised Jesus from the dead. This very moment I accept Jesus Christ as my own personal Savior and according to His Word, right now I am saved.
Thank you Jesus for your unlimited grace which has saved me from my sins. I thank you Jesus that your grace never leads to license, but rather it always leads to repentance. Therefore Lord Jesus transform my life so that I may bring glory and honor to you alone and not to myself.
Thank you Jesus for dying for me and giving me eternal life.
Amen.*
God bless you Dylann
 
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Moon said:
How awesome it would be for you if I'd said or implied any of that. The guy has been in custody for like 5 minutes so no one knows why he did it. His motivation will be determined during the police investigation, so you might want to hold off on your cheerleading or rationalizations (depending on the findings) until then.
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Your comment was the same as multiple other cons in this thread, the focus is punishment (typical con/authoritarian position) and to bury the problem as soon as possible.
 
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