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Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224:1119]

re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Sounds like they caught him.
Yep. He was a social justice warrior for emasculated white men and displayed his Racist beliefs by constantly displaying the confederate flag.
 
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"Vengeance is mine, says the Lord". Justice is up to man.

As disgusting as is any taking of human life, I am appalled at the hate filled retribution indicated in this thread.

It's ugly folks, and as a practicing Christian I am outraged, but more appalled at the calls for vengeance in the form of outright murder.

"..Forgive us, as we forgive those who trespass against us......"

And as Gandhi said, "an eye for an eye leaves the world blind".
I'm with the "the three drunks", lets let the perp explain his motivation.

I find the focus on "vengeance" being made by those not wanting to understand the motivation.
 
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He told the people he murdered that he "had to do it" because "you rape our women and are taking over our country." That's the motive. He took photos of himself wearing a jacket that had the flags of Rhodesia and apartheid-era South Africa. It's safe to say it was a hate crime.

And, of course, he had the confederate flag license plate. SMH

Why do we have so many unstable people filled with utter hate out there?
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Cool stuff, isn't it weird that police in Cleveland can pull up on a 13 year old with an air soft and shoot him within 2 seconds but police in NJ and SC manage to catch armed suspects alive? ;)


Not really. Unless, you're suggesting the same officers were at all three events. :roll:
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Cool stuff, isn't it weird that police in Cleveland can pull up on a 13 year old with an air soft and shoot him within 2 seconds but police in NJ and SC manage to catch armed suspects alive? ;)
Has there been any confirmation of the rumors that he was in a police academy?
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Cool stuff, isn't it weird that police in Cleveland can pull up on a 13 year old with an air soft and shoot him within 2 seconds but police in NJ and SC manage to catch armed suspects alive?
;)



I figured that they would catch the guy but I'm surprised they took him alive and so quickly.

It will be interesting to hear this guys story.
 
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So your argument is that the identification of hate crimes was to modify punishment?

That's exactly what it is. You don't get 20 years just because you hate someone. It's treated as an aggravating factor in some other crime and used to increase the sentence.
 
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The conservative Republican christian that did this hate crime is going to suffer the consequences.

Aren't you, and those like you, tired of jumping to conclusions that are false yet? There's a lot about this kid that we don't know yet. There's been no evidence put forth that he is a conservative, a Republican or a Christian. And yet you draw all these lines before the facts come out. Either you've been brainwashed by MSNBC, you're trying to get a job there or its something else entirely and you're simply not worth the points.

Why partisan hacks like yourself are always trying to tie anything bad that happens to the "other side" is quite sad. This was a horrible tragedy. The NRA, the Republican party, the NAACP, the DNC, every major religion (with the exception of radical Islam) and anyone free of racial hatred towards blacks absolutely denounces stuff like this. This was a 21 year old kid who didn't know dick about much of anything that did this.

Stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions. The facts will come out.
 
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That's exactly what it is. You don't get 20 years just because you hate someone. It's treated as an aggravating factor in some other crime and used to increase the sentence.
Um, no, the identification of the crime is to cause counters to the crime. Again, those who are focused on punishment are avoiding discussing the motivation.
 
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None is implied, much more is exposed by your inference.

I'm sure there some rocks large enough for you to hide under till this blows over.

Why would I need to hide under a rock? It didn't happen in my country - it happened in yours. I commented that I hope the perpetrator is going to suffer the consequences of his hate crime. I don't know the details of the young man's life so I've no need to comment or speculate about it. But you seem to have no qualms about it, seeming to gloat in my view. Perhaps that's related to your profile avatar that seems to ridicule Christians and you're likely delighted that this may be a Christian who can further your agenda.

I don't need to take a tragic event, a murderous event, and before the bodies are barely cold make it a political ax to grind.
 
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I figured that they would catch the guy but I'm surprised they took him alive and so quickly.

It will be interesting to hear this guys story.

I wonder what his name is on Free Republic and Stormfront.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Why would I need to hide under a rock? It didn't happen in my country - it happened in yours. I commented that I hope the perpetrator is going to suffer the consequences of his hate crime. I don't know the details of the young man's life so I've no need to comment or speculate about it. But you seem to have no qualms about it, seeming to gloat in my view. Perhaps that's related to your profile avatar that seems to ridicule Christians and you're likely delighted that this may be a Christian who can further your agenda.

I don't need to take a tragic event, a murderous event, and before the bodies are barely cold make it a political ax to grind.

Nobody does.
 
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REally? Are the victims more dead if it's a hate crime?

Same can be asked about calling something terrorism rather than just mass murder.....terrorism and hate crimes are more than just murder
 
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Aren't you, and those like you, tired of jumping to conclusions that are false yet? There's a lot about this kid that we don't know yet. There's been no evidence put forth that he is a conservative, a Republican or a Christian. And yet you draw all these lines before the facts come out. Either you've been brainwashed by MSNBC, you're trying to get a job there or its something else entirely and you're simply not worth the points.

Why partisan hacks like yourself are always trying to tie anything bad that happens to the "other side" is quite sad. This was a horrible tragedy. The NRA, the Republican party, the NAACP, the DNC, every major religion (with the exception of radical Islam) and anyone free of racial hatred towards blacks absolutely denounces stuff like this. This was a 21 year old kid who didn't know dick about much of anything that did this.

Stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions. The facts will come out.
Hate crimes, in this case a White male shooting a group of Blacks in a Southern church, are overwhelmingly committed by social conservatives. It is the ultimate authoritarian act, most authoritarians are conservative.
 
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There's been no evidence put forth that he is a conservative, a Republican
One of his former classmates/friends did an interview and said he was a conservative.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Aren't you, and those like you, tired of jumping to conclusions that are false yet? There's a lot about this kid that we don't know yet. There's been no evidence put forth that he is a conservative, a Republican or a Christian. And yet you draw all these lines before the facts come out. Either you've been brainwashed by MSNBC, you're trying to get a job there or its something else entirely and you're simply not worth the points.

Why partisan hacks like yourself are always trying to tie anything bad that happens to the "other side" is quite sad. This was a horrible tragedy. The NRA, the Republican party, the NAACP, the DNC, every major religion (with the exception of radical Islam) and anyone free of racial hatred towards blacks absolutely denounces stuff like this. This was a 21 year old kid who didn't know dick about much of anything that did this.

Stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions. The facts will come out.

There's lots of evidence that he was a conservative. There's some evidence that he was a Republican. He's definitely a Christian.
 
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One of his former classmates/friends did an interview and said he was a conservative.

And so what? Whether he was a conservative or progressive or apolitical, he's a mass murderer, which makes him crazy by definition, at least mine.
 
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I'm with the "the three drunks", lets let the perp explain his motivation.

I find the focus on "vengeance" being made by those not wanting to understand the motivation.



Sop shoot the ****! then hang him!

**** courts, **** trials, just shoot the "perp", never mind anything like mistaken identity.

The best example I can recall is when a mad man shot up some Amish in Eastern Pennsylvania. The community gathered in prayer.....for the shooter.

That's what I respect. Wild West "justice" is just legal madness.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Why would I need to hide under a rock? It didn't happen in my country - it happened in yours. I commented that I hope the perpetrator is going to suffer the consequences of his hate crime. I don't know the details of the young man's life so I've no need to comment or speculate about it. But you seem to have no qualms about it, seeming to gloat in my view. Perhaps that's related to your profile avatar that seems to ridicule Christians and you're likely delighted that this may be a Christian who can further your agenda.

I don't need to take a tragic event, a murderous event, and before the bodies are barely cold make it a political ax to grind.

I see you are a conservative, I see you, as your ilk, are focused on punishment and are avoiding motivation....and trying to distract with claims of my "celebration". Take your sick comments about me and shove them.
 
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There's lots of evidence that he was a conservative. There's some evidence that he was a Republican. He's definitely a Christian.

And so he sat in that church for an hour drawing divine inspiration for the nine murders he was about to commit? I think not.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Sop shoot the ****! then hang him!

**** courts, **** trials, just shoot the "perp", never mind anything like mistaken identity.

The best example I can recall is when a mad man shot up some Amish in Eastern Pennsylvania. The community gathered in prayer.....for the shooter.

That's what I respect. Wild West "justice" is just legal madness.
Again, like so many cons, you stay focused on "punishment" and continue to avoid motivation.

You keep proving my point.
 
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****ing savage, they should make that barbarian fend for himself in prison for the rest of his life, a quick painless death is far to easy for him.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

It's worth noting that we don't even know who this guy is yet, let alone what his motivations might have been.

Just sayin'...

We do now!

[Dylan] Roof,[ the 21-year-old white gunman,] sat with churchgoers inside Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church for about an hour on Wednesday before opening fire, Police Chief Gregory Mullen said.

He reloaded five times even as victims pleaded with him to stop, a relative of [Pastor & SC Senator] Pinckney's said. Sylvia Johnson, a cousin, told MSNBC that a survivor told her the gunman reloaded five times during the attack. Pinckney tried to talk him out of it, she said.

"He just said, 'I have to do it. You rape our women and you're taking over our country," Johnson said.

Source: Suspect in killing of nine at black U.S. church arrested -officials

A hate crime; no doubt about it (now).

FYI for those interested: The FBI/SCBI would have investigated this shooting regardless because Pastor Pinckney was also a SC State Senator.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Hate crimes, in this case a White male shooting a group of Blacks in a Southern church, are overwhelmingly committed by social conservatives. It is the ultimate authoritarian act, most authoritarians are conservative.

The bombing of Pearl Harbor was perpetrated by Japanese and Japanese can't be trusted so we better round them all up. A "social conservative" did that?
 
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