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Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224:1119]

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The conservative Republican christian that did this hate crime is going to suffer the consequences.
 
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They'll catch him. I hope it is sooner than later. The only question is if he will kill anyone else before then.

Given the potential race factor it may not be himself. This is exactly a textbook mass shooting. The guy will have history of aggression and mental issues. Probably even facebook comments.
 
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Police: Multiple victims in South Carolina church shooting - CBS News

This appears to be a racist attack as the suspect was reported as being white. the suspect is described as a "clean-shaven white male.

Great, just what we need after all the police brutality incidents. Hope the perpetrator is caught quickly . the church appears to be an African-American parish given the denomination and the location
Churches are gun free zones in SC.
 
Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting

Probably going to be evidence or mental disorders
 
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To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?

From the reports of witnesses it was racism. The actual definition of it. A witness quotes him:

"'You rape our women and you’re taking over the country. You have to go.'"
 
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Mostly that's how it happens, whereas the other way around, groups of blacks can run around, murdering whites at random and never be charged with hate crimes. There is a double standard, here.

Please, in the name of all things holy, take that crap and start a thread. But for sake of everyone here who stop posting that garbage. This is not the proper thread.
 
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Funny how right wingers love to say Muslims are threats yet more people in America have been killed by right wing attacks than Muslim extremists since 9/11. Condolences to the victims.

Right wing? He's a 21 year old kid. What makes you think this has anything to do with politics at all?
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Please, in the name of all things holy, take that crap and start a thread. But for sake of everyone here who stop posting that garbage. This is not the proper thread.

Please enlighten me as to what kind of thread this is?
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

The conservative Republican christian that did this hate crime is going to suffer the consequences.

I certainly hope so. You won't see many, if any at all, conservative Republican Christians rallying around a criminal/murderer.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
Um, he posted on white supremacists sites, he went into a famous Black church, he waited for his moment and opened fire. His motive was hatred of Black people.
 
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Yeah, but I noticed that they have positively identified this one as white kid, but you have to admit that the picture shown earlier at the church looks like that of someone much darker. That is probably a bad picture, which doesn't properly show skin tones in exact lighting.

Well, the next thing is to determine his political affiliation. I hope he's not a liberal.

I don't know what picture you saw or if your screen was dimmed, but this guy is clearly as pasty, fish belly white as me.
 
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To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?

Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.
 
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Right wing? He's a 21 year old kid. What makes you think this has anything to do with politics at all?
Are you arguing that hate crimes are not to terrorize, to subjugate victims, to remove power?
 
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Sounds like they caught him.
 
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I get the sentiment here. But it would do much more good if this man is caught, tried and executed. (assuming his guilt which seems pretty straightforward)

Erod is saying it because he has a record of supporting police brutality, I say it because I doubt the victims of this crime will get proper justice. There is no shared sentiment.
 
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That's always my fear too Risky. As much as I want to see this SOB dead, at the same time I want him alive and singing like a canary so we know who else may harbor whatever feelings he has as well.



"Vengeance is mine, says the Lord". Justice is up to man.

As disgusting as is any taking of human life, I am appalled at the hate filled retribution indicated in this thread.

It's ugly folks, and as a practicing Christian I am outraged, but more appalled at the calls for vengeance in the form of outright murder.

"..Forgive us, as we forgive those who trespass against us......"

And as Gandhi said, "an eye for an eye leaves the world blind".
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

The suspect was arrested at a traffic stop. He's in custody.
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

To echo law enforcement in cases where whites are murdered, we don't know if this was a hate crime. The big question is why would he go to church and sit quietly in a pew for about an hour before he started shooting? What was the motive, and will we ever find that out?
He told the people he murdered that he "had to do it" because "you rape our women and are taking over our country." That's the motive. He took photos of himself wearing a jacket that had the flags of Rhodesia and apartheid-era South Africa. It's safe to say it was a hate crime.
 
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Try not to sound so much like you're gloating.
None is implied, much more is exposed by your inference.

I'm sure there some rocks large enough for you to hide under till this blows over.
 
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Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.

Oh, but it does make it more emotional, therefore the race pimps get to cash in, and the mental cases can appear mainstream in calling for vengeance
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

The suspect was arrested at a traffic stop. He's in custody.

Cool stuff, isn't it weird that police in Cleveland can pull up on a 13 year old with an air soft and shoot him within 2 seconds but police in NJ and SC manage to catch armed suspects alive? ;)
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Look, man. "Hate crime" is immaterial in these type of cases. All it does is allow some people to justify their outrage. The fact of the matter is that if you murder someone you're getting the needle or you're getting a life sentence. If you murder more than one you get consecutive sentences. To that end, a "hate crime" conviction doesn't add a damned thing to the punishment. Maybe this guy will get another 180 years tacked on to his nine life sentences when this is all said and done but, frankly, I doubt that he'll care at that point.
So your argument is that the identification of hate crimes was to modify punishment?
 
re: Police: Multiple Victims in South Carolina church shooting [W:224]

Erod is saying it because he has a record of supporting police brutality, I say it because I doubt the victims of this crime will get proper justice. There is no shared sentiment.

You don't think they'll get justice!!??

Really?

The guy is going to get either life or death so what else do you think it will take to get "proper justice"?
 
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