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Rachel Dolezal resigns as NAACP leader amid racial identity controversy

Tettsuo said:
As an American black, I'm fine with her "becoming" black.

I mean seriously, my grandmother looks more "white" than she does.
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Is your Grandmother Half German and Half Chezch ?
 
vesper said:
I watched some of Fox and Friends, saw Sharpton defending her while shaming her parents for being honest.
They also reported that this woman has been offered a TV reality show. Move over Duggers meet Dolezal.
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She's right down Sharpton's alley. He knows frauds being one himself.
 
Fenton said:
Is your Grandmother Half German and Half Chezch ?
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Nope. American black. Both her parents were black as well.

There's a long history of American blacks doing everything they can to be a "white" in appearance as possible. She's the product of that.
 
Tettsuo said:
Nope. American black. Both her parents were black as well.

There's a long history of American blacks doing everything they can to be a "white" in appearance as possible. She's the product of that.
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Higher status for lighter skinned blacks is not the same as passing for white.
 
Tettsuo said:
There's some history involved in that. If a black person passes as white, their parent will deny any relation to them for the sake of their child's life. There was probably some expectation from Sharpton that her parents will do the same.
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I've never seen this woman in my life, I've never even heard of her.... but to believe she passed for a black person is pretty damn scary. Are people in Washington state that damn blind? I mean, yes I get it: spray tan. But I took one look at this woman and recognized this wasn't even decent black face (there is such a thing as wearing make up in way that actually fools the audience: look up Cloud Atlas, if somebody hadn't told me it was Halle Berry playing that Asian man, I would have never noticed). Good grief, how were people fooled for so long? Did nobody bother to point out that this was a white woman?

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Are these ****ing people serious or was everyone in Washington too damn stoned to notice?
 
Hatuey said:
I've never seen this woman in my life, I've never even heard of her.... but to believe she passed for a black person is pretty damn scary. Are people in Washington state that damn blind? I mean, yes I get it: spray tan. But I took one look at this woman and recognized this wasn't even decent black face (there is such a thing as wearing make up in way that actually fools the audience: look up Cloud Atlas, if somebody hadn't told me it was Halle Berry playing that Asian man, I would have never noticed). Good grief, how were people fooled for so long? Did nobody bother to point out that this was a white woman?

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Are these ****ing people serious or was everyone in Washington too damn stoned to notice?
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In her heart, she's black. In my heart, I'm Rocko in Rocko's Modern Life. I won't say who Mr. Bighead is. I'm in enough trouble as it is.
 
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humbolt said:
In her heart, she's black. In my heart, I'm Rocco in Rocco's Modern Life. I won't say who Mr. Bighead is. I'm in enough trouble as it is.
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That is a great show. It was from a time when Nickelodeon actually gave a **** about animation and production companies weren't looking for the next big hit that they could whore out to America's retarded masses under 12 (I'm looking at you, SpongeBob SquarePants!). Anyways, yeah - it's just absolutely insane that people went along with this for so long. I would love to know what her ex-husband's family thinks about the entire thing. I mean, it's not like she could compartmentalize this situation. Did nobody at the wedding realize that the brides' claimed black father was nowhere to be seen during the event? Were all the white people in the pictures supposed to be his relatives? It's just so bizarre.
 
Hatuey said:
I've never seen this woman in my life, I've never even heard of her.... but to believe she passed for a black person is pretty damn scary. Are people in Washington state that damn blind? I mean, yes I get it: spray tan. But I took one look at this woman and recognized this wasn't even decent black face (there is such a thing as wearing make up in way that actually fools the audience: look up Cloud Atlas, if somebody hadn't told me it was Halle Berry playing that Asian man, I would have never noticed). Good grief, how were people fooled for so long? Did nobody bother to point out that this was a white woman?

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Are these ****ing people serious or was everyone in Washington too damn stoned to notice?
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Carol Channing is black by American standards.
Carol Channing, entertainer coming home | African American Registry
 
Hatuey said:
That is a great show. It was from a time when Nickelodeon actually gave a **** about animation and production companies weren't looking for the next big hit that they could whore out to America's retarded masses under 12 (I'm looking at you, SpongeBob SquarePants!). Anyways, yeah - it's just absolutely insane that people went along with this for so long. I would love to know what her ex-husband's family thinks about the entire thing. I mean, it's not like she could compartmentalize this situation. Did nobody at the wedding realize that the brides' claimed black father was nowhere to be seen during the event? Were all the white people in the pictures supposed to be his relatives? It's just so bizarre.
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I'd be concerned if it wasn't so damn funny. Of course, I don't know her. If I did and cared about her, I'd be trying to get her some help, although I have to admit I'm not sure what shape that help might come in. I have no idea how she looks in the mirror and determines that she's black. It's not unlike Mitch McConnell looking in the mirror and deciding he's a Power Ranger.
 
Jack Hays said:
Your claim does not seem likely to have been uniformly true, or even true most of the time. You'll need a link to address that.
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'A Chosen Exile': Black People Passing In White America : Code Switch : NPR

For a black person to pass as white, their history has to be erased. This includes all family ties. For them to be outed after they pass, would mean serious legal and social problems.

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/students/groups/oslj/files/2012/03/62.3.kennedy.pdf
 
Tettsuo said:
Carol Channing is black by American standards.
Carol Channing, entertainer coming home | African American Registry
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An aberration that doesn't really change much in the discussion. I don't know what type of community you grew up in but I can tell fake and real dreadlocks from a mile away. I can also tell when a person is superficially tanned vs when a person is simply darker. In my own immediate family for example, my daughter has a much lighter complexion than myself. Could she pass for a white kid? Sure, if we kept her indoors all day and you ask the right person. However, even then there are inklings that her racial background is not entirely white. This person, from a distance, sets off quite a few alarms for me the minute she says she's a black woman. It's not because I find it impossible, I'm just completely astounded that nobody thought to ask sooner: Are you actually a black black person? - I mean, even out of curiosity people ask these kids of things.
 
Hatuey said:
An aberration that doesn't really change much in the discussion. I don't know what type of community you grew up in but I can tell fake and real dreadlocks from a mile away. I can also tell when a person is superficially tanned vs when a person is simply darker. In my own immediate family for example, my daughter has a much lighter complexion than myself. Could she pass for a white kid? Sure, if we kept her indoors all day and you ask the right person. However, even then there are inklings that her racial background is not entirely white. This person, from a distance, sets off quite a few alarms for me the minute she says she's a black woman. It's not because I find it impossible, I'm just completely astounded that nobody thought to ask sooner: Are you actually a black black person? - I mean, even out of curiosity people ask these kids of things.
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I've never asked another person if they're black or not. Never. Never ever.

To do so is an direct affront to the person you're addressing.
 
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Hatuey said:
I've never seen this woman in my life, I've never even heard of her.... but to believe she passed for a black person is pretty damn scary. Are people in Washington state that damn blind? I mean, yes I get it: spray tan. But I took one look at this woman and recognized this wasn't even decent black face (there is such a thing as wearing make up in way that actually fools the audience: look up Cloud Atlas, if somebody hadn't told me it was Halle Berry playing that Asian man, I would have never noticed). Good grief, how were people fooled for so long? Did nobody bother to point out that this was a white woman?

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Are these ****ing people serious or was everyone in Washington too damn stoned to notice?
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HA my husband said the same thing. He wants to know if the ****ing rain in Spokane has impacted their eyesight. He said (and I agree) that it couldn't be more obvious that she's white, hair aside.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Why?
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To question a person's "blackness" is insulting. Even more so to people that are already fair and have spent their lives being faced with social discrimination from other American blacks.
 
tres borrachos said:
HA my husband said the same thing. He wants to know if the ****ing rain in Spokane has impacted their eyesight. He said (and I agree) that it couldn't be more obvious that she's white, hair aside.
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Black. Not so easy to distinguish anymore, is it?
 
Hatuey said:
I've never seen this woman in my life, I've never even heard of her.... but to believe she passed for a black person is pretty damn scary. Are people in Washington state that damn blind? I mean, yes I get it: spray tan. But I took one look at this woman and recognized this wasn't even decent black face (there is such a thing as wearing make up in way that actually fools the audience: look up Cloud Atlas, if somebody hadn't told me it was Halle Berry playing that Asian man, I would have never noticed). Good grief, how were people fooled for so long? Did nobody bother to point out that this was a white woman?

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Are these ****ing people serious or was everyone in Washington too damn stoned to notice?
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tres borrachos said:
HA my husband said the same thing. He wants to know if the ****ing rain in Spokane has impacted their eyesight. He said (and I agree) that it couldn't be more obvious that she's white, hair aside.
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I've known a number of bona fide African Americans who don't look much different. IMHO the key here is that a white passing for black is unexpected and people don't have a reflexive defense for that.
 
Tettsuo said:
To question a person's "blackness" is insulting. Even more so to people that are already fair and have spent their lives being faced with social discrimination from other American blacks.
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That's not the same thing as what you stated. You said:

"I've never asked another person if they're black or not. Never. Never ever.

To do so is an direct affront to the person you're addressing."


no mention asking about how black someone is.
 
Jack Hays said:
I've known a number of bona fide African Americans who don't look much different. IMHO the key here is that a white passing for black is unexpected and people don't have a reflexive defense for that.
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If you look closely at her face, you see her eyes, her facial features, as well as her complexion are clearly Caucasian. I've never seen a black person that looks quite as white as she does.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
That's not the same thing as what you stated. You said:

"I've never asked another person if they're black or not. Never. Never ever.

To do so is an direct affront to the person you're addressing."


no mention asking about how black someone is.
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huh? You asked why. I gave you an answer to your why.
 
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