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Texas Man and His Dog Found Dead After Becoming Trapped Inside Car

Peter Grimm said:
Is a reasonable person safe in a Chevy? Maybe not if they don't know how to get out of the car. A lawsuit will force Chevrolette to make a safer vehicle.
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What is not safe about having a clearly labeled lever in plain view to open the doors if the battery dies. Now if they didnt put the lever in the car or didn't say how to open the doors than you might have a point. How is it Chevy's fault that the owner made the decision not to read the operating instructions that they provided with he car.
Do you ever expect people to take responsibility for their own decisions.
 
I'm not a "car person," but what I've read says that the Corvette is an "all-electric" car. For example: "According to Corvette experts, there is a manual release inside the vehicle, but most people don’t know about it and many say it is difficult to see. The release is usually located on the left-hand side of the floorboard by the driver and the right-hand side by the passenger." Texas Man, Dog Found Dead Inside Corvette After Doors Apparently Fail to Unlock | KTLA
 
Peter Grimm said:
Exactly, which is why Chevy's ass is getting sued.

No reasonable person would know that door release was there.
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Yea, who would notice a red lever with the picture of a door on it. There is no cure for stupid.
 
Texmex said:
Yea, who would notice a red lever with the picture of a door on it. There is no cure for stupid.
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As I've said, I'm not a car-person. If the quoted "Corvette experts" above say that most people don't know about the lever, why don't most people know?
 
TextDriversKill said:
99% of a car manual is lawyer crap like "never drive thru water over 3" deep" even though everybody does just that. No one wastes their time reading the owners manual.
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Normally intelligent people read their owners manual. Some people are so ignorant they evidently are unable to understand plane English. Old man should have had a pickup not a Corvette, especially if he was unable to operate it correctly.
 
nota bene said:
As I've said, I'm not a car-person. If the quoted "Corvette experts" above say that most people don't know about the lever, why don't most people know?
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Too stupid to read the manual I guess.
 
Wow. That's just a horribly sad story. :(
 
Texmex said:
Too stupid to read the manual I guess.
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Not everybody is perfect. Again, why did "Corvette experts" say that "most people" don't know about the lever? Are they lying?
 
nota bene said:
Not everybody is perfect. Again, why did "Corvette experts" say that "most people" don't know about the lever? Are they lying?
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No doubt they are right. That just shows you that most people are to lazy to read their owners manual. And that's fine but you can't blame Chevy for people's laziness. If you watch the video someone posted earlier it shows exactly where the lever is. It's not hard to see and it is clearly marked
The problem is that people today want to be able to blame someone else for all of the decisions they make so that nothing is their fault. Chevy built a car that in this case had no defects in it, they put in a saftey mechanism in the event of a dead battery and they put down how to open the doors in the owners manual. What more do they need to do.
 
Texmex said:
Normally intelligent people read their owners manual. Some people are so ignorant they evidently are unable to understand plane English. Old man should have had a pickup not a Corvette, especially if he was unable to operate it correctly.
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If you are going to insult a dead person as ignorant, at least use the correct word: "plane English".
 
TextDriversKill said:
You believe this?? Why didn't he break a window?
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At 72 he may not have been able to physically break a window, or more likely didn't think he could. I've come to find, one day when I lost my temper, that front windows actually are quite easy to break, side windows not so much.
 
longview said:
Sounds like a design flaw to me.
If a person cannot mechanically open the door, that is a problem!
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It's the lock, I notice that in my newer Escape, when locked the door lock mechanism that used to in all my other cars stay slightly above the opening, now recesses all the way down in and couldn't be grabbed except possibly needle nose pliers.
 
nota bene said:
From a major regional news outlet at about the 3-minute mark, you can hear what the man who tried to rescue Mr. Rogers, a Mr. Ponsegrau, has to say about all the "armchair geniuses" who posted at KHOU's website about how they could have saved themselves. Also from this link:

Mike Flash, owner of Corvette Specialties, told 12News that the 2007 Corvette has a manual release located on the floorboard by the driver's seat. But Rogers did not know that.

Ponsegrau says Rogers was not the only one unaware of that. He says he, along with first responders, also struggled finding away to get Rogers o out of the car.

Ponsegrau says eventually firefighters had to break the window.

He said, "There's is a way to get in, but it's not common knowledge."

Hernandez says police believe her dad made a valiant effort to escape, and possibly died while looking through the car's manual. Texas man, dog die after being trapped in Corvette
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What a terribly sad story.

It's also shocking that this story is giving people ammunition to make disgusting and not amusing partisan posts.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
If you are going to insult a dead person as ignorant, at least use the correct word: "plane English".
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Do you think this dead man is concerned about my opinion. Thank you for the spelling lesson, it's good to learn from someone who never makes a grammatical or spelling error.
 
Texmex said:
Do you think this dead man is concerned about my opinion. Thank you for the spelling lesson, it's good to learn from someone who never makes a grammatical or spelling error.
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It's just Muphry's Law biting you in the ass. Well deserved, too.
 
tres borrachos said:
Christonacracker, what an obnoxious remark.
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Callous and insensitive. Now let that have been taking place in New York City and someone saying one less Hillary voter and they'd be accused seven ways to Sunday as a misogynist and pages on perpetuating the "war on women" as well as being a sexist. Double standard.
 
Ockham said:
Callous and insensitive. Now let that have been taking place in New York City and someone saying one less Hillary voter and they'd be accused seven ways to Sunday as a misogynist and pages on perpetuating the "war on women" as well as being a sexist. Double standard.
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Picture a black man and his dog dying in a hot car, and you posting "One less Obama voter". You'd be accused of being an insensitive, heartless, ignorant racist.
 
braindrain said:
What is not safe about having a clearly labeled lever in plain view to open the doors if the battery dies. Now if they didnt put the lever in the car or didn't say how to open the doors than you might have a point. How is it Chevy's fault that the owner made the decision not to read the operating instructions that they provided with he car.
Do you ever expect people to take responsibility for their own decisions.
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Not clearly marked, and the rescue crew couldn't find the levers either.

Doesn't look good for Chevrolette
 
Texmex said:
Yea, who would notice a red lever with the picture of a door on it. There is no cure for stupid.
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Who would think to look fr a door handle on the floor?

Chevrolette is getting sued, I bet they settle out of court w the family for millions
 
Peter Grimm said:
Not clearly marked, and the rescue crew couldn't find the levers either.

Doesn't look good for Chevrolette
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Black lever with red symbol of the door. What more do you want. The rescue crews could not because 1 it is in the car and 2 they didn't read the manual.
Every owners manual I have seen tells the owner to read and understand the manual before operating the vehicle.

Tell me why do you not believe in personal responsibility.
 
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