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Texas Man and His Dog Found Dead After Becoming Trapped Inside Car

The Personal Responsibility crowd is doing some epic backtracking on their principles in order to justify a frivolous lawsuit against an American company. It's surreal.
 
The Personal Responsibility crowd is doing some epic backtracking on their principles in order to justify a frivolous lawsuit against an American company. It's surreal.
No only some of them. Those who put politics ahead of principles. Others such as myself feel that if you are given a product that works as designed and a detail manual on how to operate it and you choose to not read it. Than that's on you. Same as for those who choose to drop out of high school and than cant find a decent job. That's on them as well.
 
No only some of them. Those who put politics ahead of principles. Others such as myself feel that if you are given a product that works as designed and a detail manual on how to operate it and you choose to not read it. Than that's on you. Same as for those who choose to drop out of high school and than cant find a decent job. That's on them as well.

Yes, it's like all of the idiots who signed contracts for mortgages and credit cards without reading what they were signing, right? Personal responsibility used to be something people were expected to have but according to our lawmakers, people aren't expected to be responsible.

But that said, I read my owners manual for my Honda Accord when I got it. I didn't memorize it though. Did you memorize your owner's manual?
 
Twice now, in posts 52 and 58 on page 5, I have asked you about the claim that most owners don't know about the lever. Are you able to address this?

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This is the last time I say this. The information is in the owner's manual. This unfortunate man should have read the information provided by Chevrolet. Perhaps General Motors should change this and make it easier or at least make sure owners know about this safety feature. This does not change the fact that he could have escaped if he had read the book.
 
Do you think this dead man is concerned about my opinion. Thank you for the spelling lesson, it's good to learn from someone who never makes a grammatical or spelling error.

I'm not clear that any dead man cares about your opinion. I didn't think you spelled the word wrong, I assumed you picked the wrong word.
 
I think reasonable people can agree that the man bears responsibility for knowing the ins and outs of his own car - at least in terms of civil liability - while acknowledging that a 72 year old man might have certain difficulties with tasks he isn't used to both in terms of learning something new quickly under duress or performing a feat of strength to break the door, dashboard, or window, even to save his own life.

I also think reasonable people will look at those who make callous and meanspirited comments about this man appropriate of nothing and hold them in disdain, as is appropriate.
 
The Personal Responsibility crowd is doing some epic backtracking on their principles in order to justify a frivolous lawsuit against an American company. It's surreal.

What lawsuit?
 
What lawsuit?

A purely theoretical one at this point.


So, you know, not much worth talking about.

Despite it being the thing those celebrating this death are currently hanging their hat on.
 
Poor guy was 72 years old and trapped in his car, instead of asking why didn't a seventy-two year old Army vet didn't have the strength to break out of his car window, why didn't he have a phone to call 911 or a friend? Or more importantly, why didn't anyone come to help him out?

I want to know how a 72 year old got into a Corvette, and also why he was the only person in the US that didn't have a cel phone.
 
I want to know how a 72 year old got into a Corvette, and also why he was the only person in the US that didn't have a cel phone.

I imagine he got into his Corvette the same way anybody else would. :roll:

What I want to know is why you aren't aware that Mr. Rogers did have a cell phone. He accidentally left it in the Waffle House in whose parking lot he died.
 
I imagine he got into his Corvette the same way anybody else would. :roll:

What I want to know is why you aren't aware that Mr. Rogers did have a cell phone. He accidentally left it in the Waffle House in whose parking lot he died.

You have to turn your body into a pretzel to get into a Corvette. At 72 he must have been in really good shape.

Waffle House? Is this an episode of Dead Like Me?
 
This is the last time I say this. The information is in the owner's manual. This unfortunate man should have read the information provided by Chevrolet. Perhaps General Motors should change this and make it easier or at least make sure owners know about this safety feature. This does not change the fact that he could have escaped if he had read the book.
Seeing how it is a simple one step process that involves pulling up on a lever I am not sure how they could make it to much easier as to making sure people know about it I am not sure how they could do that either as Chevy does not sell cars to customers. Only dealers can do that. If I remember correctly car companies are not allowed to sell directly to people by law. So the Chevy actually has zero contact with the person buying the car. All they can do is put it in the manual and hope people read it.
 
Yes, it's like all of the idiots who signed contracts for mortgages and credit cards without reading what they were signing, right? Personal responsibility used to be something people were expected to have but according to our lawmakers, people aren't expected to be responsible.

But that said, I read my owners manual for my Honda Accord when I got it. I didn't memorize it though. Did you memorize your owner's manual?
Nope sure don't memorize them. I don't even think I read the one for my Jeep but you know what. If I get hurt or killed due to me not knowing something in there that is 100% on me. Not jeeps fault at all.
 
Nope sure don't memorize them. I don't even think I read the one for my Jeep but you know what. If I get hurt or killed due to me not knowing something in there that is 100% on me. Not jeeps fault at all.

I didn't say anything about anyone being at fault. You are projecting shock that he didn't know about whatever could have saved him as it was in his owner's manual, as if it's perfectly normal, every day routine for people to memorize the contents of their owner's manuals. It isn't.
 
I want to know how a 72 year old got into a Corvette, and also why he was the only person in the US that didn't have a cel phone.

He had a cell phone, which he left somewhere. But even if he didn't, what's the relevance?
 
I didn't say anything about anyone being at fault. You are projecting shock that he didn't know about whatever could have saved him as it was in his owner's manual, as if it's perfectly normal, every day routine for people to memorize the contents of their owner's manuals. It isn't.
No I am not shocked that he didnt know it at all. I doubt many people actually read their owners manual so no surprise there. Where have I expressed any shock what so ever that he didnt know it.
And you are right that you didnt say anything about fault but several other posters have by saying it is Chevys fault and that they should be sued.
 
Not all 72 year olds are able bodied enough to break a car window from inside.

I think this is the real issue at hand.

I would have been able to escape a vehicle - even if it meant disassembling the door by hand. But a 72 year old person likely with health issues and other frailties? No. I don't see that as being very likely.
 
He had a cell phone, which he left somewhere. But even if he didn't, what's the relevance?

You don't know if he had a phone he could have called somebody?
 
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