UN, Iran Head for Showdown Over Nuclear Inspections

[Rogue Valley]

UN, Iran Head for Showdown Over Nuclear Inspections

June 9, 2015

VIENNA (AP) — The chief U.N. nuclear inspector said Monday that Iran has already committed to letting his experts see Iranian military sites and Iranian atomic scientists despite an alleged ban by Tehran, deepening a confrontation over how much openness Iran must accept under any nuclear deal.

Iranian Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei last month declared that "no inspection of any military site and interview with nuclear scientists will be allowed," and Iranian negotiators have since said Khamenei's ban is indisputable. Yukiya Amano, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency however challenged that, saying Iran already has committed to permit "access to sites, documents (and) people" under a preliminary agreement that outlined components of the deal now being negotiated.

Specifically, Iran agreed to implement what is known as the IAEA's "Additional Protocol" when it agreed in April to the outlines of the deal now being worked on. More than 100 countries have an Additional Protocol agreement that gives the IAEA greater purview of their nuclear activities. Among other tools, the protocol gives IAEA experts the right to "ask for short-notice inspections or access to undeclared locations," Amano said. He said the Additional Protocol means Iran will be under the magnifying glass for "years and years" to allow the agency to certify that all present nuclear activities are peaceful.

Mr. Amano is correct. Iran signed the NPT Additional Protocol in December of 2003. In short, Mr. Amano is saying that the Additional Protocol Iran signed in 2003 remains binding despite the fact that Iran has failed to honor the Additional Protocol for over a decade.

The Additional Protocol is a legal document granting the IAEA complementary inspection authority to that provided in underlying safeguards agreements. A principal aim is to enable the IAEA inspectorate to provide assurance about both declared and possible undeclared activities. Under the Protocol, the IAEA is granted expanded rights of access to information and sites. The Protocol grants the IAEA access to any location where nuclear material is or may be present. It also permits IAEA collection of environmental samples at locations beyond declared locations when deemed necessary by the Agency.

 

[eohrnberger]

UN, Iran Head for Showdown Over Nuclear Inspections



Mr. Amano is correct. Iran signed the NPT Additional Protocol in December of 2003. In short, Mr. Amano is saying that the Additional Protocol Iran signed in 2003 remains binding despite the fact that Iran has failed to honor the Additional Protocol for over a decade.

The Additional Protocol is a legal document granting the IAEA complementary inspection authority to that provided in underlying safeguards agreements. A principal aim is to enable the IAEA inspectorate to provide assurance about both declared and possible undeclared activities. Under the Protocol, the IAEA is granted expanded rights of access to information and sites. The Protocol grants the IAEA access to any location where nuclear material is or may be present. It also permits IAEA collection of environmental samples at locations beyond declared locations when deemed necessary by the Agency.

Oh oh. Paper Tiger is upset that non one is paying it any attention. Let's see what they can come up with to make Iran comply with their agreements.
My bet is not much.

 

[WCH]

Who out there actually believed Iran would comply?

Why should they?

 

[MMC]

Mornin Simplexity. :2wave: That's not all the UN is saying. They had more to say yesterday.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/inter...failed-report-irans-violations-sanctions.html

 

[polgara]

Mornin Simplexity. :2wave: That's not all the UN is saying. They had more to say yesterday.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/inter...failed-report-irans-violations-sanctions.html

Good morning, MMC. :2wave:

Ramadan is the most important month in the Islamic religious calendar, and it starts June 18 this year and goes for 30 days. I suspect that there may be some sort of agreement reached so it can be announced to the Islamic people during this holiday. It will be interesting to see what the terms of the agreement are, and whether all promises can be kept! It is a month of fasting and prayer, and the wealthy are expected to give to the poor, so removal of sanctions will be vital to them at this time, IMO. We shall see.....

 

[Montecresto]

UN, Iran Head for Showdown Over Nuclear Inspections



Mr. Amano is correct. Iran signed the NPT Additional Protocol in December of 2003. In short, Mr. Amano is saying that the Additional Protocol Iran signed in 2003 remains binding despite the fact that Iran has failed to honor the Additional Protocol for over a decade.

The Additional Protocol is a legal document granting the IAEA complementary inspection authority to that provided in underlying safeguards agreements. A principal aim is to enable the IAEA inspectorate to provide assurance about both declared and possible undeclared activities. Under the Protocol, the IAEA is granted expanded rights of access to information and sites. The Protocol grants the IAEA access to any location where nuclear material is or may be present. It also permits IAEA collection of environmental samples at locations beyond declared locations when deemed necessary by the Agency.

There seems to be some disagreements amongst many nations over this.

Is the Conclusion of an Additional Protocol Mandatory under the NPT?
Is the Conclusion of an Additional Protocol Mandatory under the NPT? | Arms Control Law

The above statement in the conclusion of the 2010 Review Conference, according to which the 166 States which have brought into force comprehensive safeguards agreements with the IAEA have done so ‘in compliance with article III, paragraph 4, of the Treaty’ is therefore legally correct. The same may be said of the statement in the same text that ‘it is the sovereign decision of any State to conclude an additional protocol’.

 

[Montecresto]

Mornin Simplexity. :2wave: That's not all the UN is saying. They had more to say yesterday.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/inter...failed-report-irans-violations-sanctions.html

It sounds like a few nations aren't reporting because they don't want to damage the negotiations which will end in lifted sanctions anyway.

 

[MMC]

It sounds like a few nations aren't reporting because they don't want to damage the negotiations which will end in lifted sanctions anyway.

Yeah, that was one thing that was pointed out. Now we will see what the Iranians say.....when they are told. Yes you signed, your Military bases will be open for inspection. Oh and if we want to do a snap inspection. You will comply or we will write you up for disobedience again.

 

[polgara]

Yeah, that was one thing that was pointed out. Now we will see what the Iranians say.....when they are told. Yes you signed, your Military bases will be open for inspection. Oh and if we want to do a snap inspection. You will comply or we will write you up for disobedience again.

Does the kid who got the ice cream cone to stop his tantrum feel like he lost? I don't think so.

 

[MMC]

Does the kid who got the ice cream cone to stop his tantrum feel like he lost? I don't think so.

Shhhh Lady P......we don't want them to know about the Paddle.

 

[B'smith]

It sounds like a few nations aren't reporting because they don't want to damage the negotiations which will end in lifted sanctions anyway.

What many others don't seem to realize is that the US - Israel - EU Pact isn't the only show in town. Iran knows that AIPAC dominates US Mid East Foreign Policy & is not going to waste much more time jumping through AIPAC's hoops. So far their aggressive, alternative alliance building has proven fruitful* from Russia & China to Venezuela & elsewhere in Latin America.

Iran has tried reaching out to the US by offering to cap deep underwater, US oil line ruptures, Working with the US Navy against pirates & in Rescue Operations, (1) doing the "Heavy Lifting" in the fight against ISIS (2) & offering repeated diplomatic overtures.

It would be well worth considering scaling back Nuclear demands on Iran because:

1. Iran will simply solidify fledgling alliances with growing, Eastern / Russian organizations like the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization) & BRICS members China, India, and Russia.

And / Or:

2. Expand their nuclear program from other World sources.

According to Jane's, it's too late for an effective Israeli air strike now (3) & Americans have no interest in undertaking another Mid East War.

Iran will become a Nuclear power with or without AIPAC's approval just as it will solidify alliances with powerful allies if pushed too hard.

America simply needs to decide if it wants Iran as an ally with mutually beneficial ties or as part of a hostile alliance with increasingly powerful partners from Russia to Venezuela.

America needs all the reliable, mutually beneficial, & self supporting allies it can get





* “Iran's Alternative Allies”
Iran's Alternative Allies | The Iran Primer
"Iran has developed close ties with a wide range of alternative allies in Latin America and Africa. These relationships serve several purposes. They impede U.S. and European efforts to maintain effective sanctions. They provide Iran with material to sustain its nuclear enrichment program. They bolster markets for Iranian oil. They also weaken U.S. efforts to isolate Iran in international institutions."*


(1) “Over the Horizon: Iranian Rescue Validates U.S. Navy's Cooperative Strategy”
Over the Horizon: Iranian Rescue Validates U.S. Navy's Cooperative Strategy

(2) “US rejects Iran's offer to cooperate against Islamic State”
US rejects Iran's offer to cooperate against Islamic State ? RT News

(3) “The Growing China-Russia-Iran Strategic Alliance Has Got the Pentagon Trembling”
The Growing China-Russia-Iran Strategic Alliance Has Got the Pentagon Trembling
"This explains why Jane’s Defense Weekly was already saying years ago that Israel could not penetrate Iranian airspace even if it managed to get there. And after the S-300s Iran inevitably will be offered the even more sophisticated S-400s, which are to be delivered to China as well."

 

[JANFU]

There seems to be some disagreements amongst many nations over this.

Is the Conclusion of an Additional Protocol Mandatory under the NPT?
Is the Conclusion of an Additional Protocol Mandatory under the NPT? | Arms Control Law

The above statement in the conclusion of the 2010 Review Conference, according to which the 166 States which have brought into force comprehensive safeguards agreements with the IAEA have done so ‘in compliance with article III, paragraph 4, of the Treaty’ is therefore legally correct. The same may be said of the statement in the same text that ‘it is the sovereign decision of any State to conclude an additional protocol’.

That is not the point of this negotiation. They can add on what they please over and above any other treaty signed by Iran.

 

[JANFU]

What many others don't seem to realize is that the US - Israel - EU Pact isn't the only show in town. Iran knows that AIPAC dominates US Mid East Foreign Policy & is not going to waste much more time jumping through AIPAC's hoops. So far their aggressive, alternative alliance building has proven fruitful* from Russia & China to Venezuela & elsewhere in Latin America.

Iran has tried reaching out to the US by offering to cap deep underwater, US oil line ruptures, Working with the US Navy against pirates & in Rescue Operations, (1) doing the "Heavy Lifting" in the fight against ISIS (2) & offering repeated diplomatic overtures.

It would be well worth considering scaling back Nuclear demands on Iran because:

1. Iran will simply solidify fledgling alliances with growing, Eastern / Russian organizations like the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization) & BRICS members China, India, and Russia.

And / Or:

2. Expand their nuclear program from other World sources.

According to Jane's, it's too late for an effective Israeli air strike now (3) & Americans have no interest in undertaking another Mid East War.

Iran will become a Nuclear power with or without AIPAC's approval just as it will solidify alliances with powerful allies if pushed too hard.

America simply needs to decide if it wants Iran as an ally with mutually beneficial ties or as part of a hostile alliance with increasingly powerful partners from Russia to Venezuela.

America needs all the reliable, mutually beneficial, & self supporting allies it can get





* “Iran's Alternative Allies”
Iran's Alternative Allies | The Iran Primer
"Iran has developed close ties with a wide range of alternative allies in Latin America and Africa. These relationships serve several purposes. They impede U.S. and European efforts to maintain effective sanctions. They provide Iran with material to sustain its nuclear enrichment program. They bolster markets for Iranian oil. They also weaken U.S. efforts to isolate Iran in international institutions."*


(1) “Over the Horizon: Iranian Rescue Validates U.S. Navy's Cooperative Strategy”
Over the Horizon: Iranian Rescue Validates U.S. Navy's Cooperative Strategy

(2) “US rejects Iran's offer to cooperate against Islamic State”
US rejects Iran's offer to cooperate against Islamic State ? RT News

(3) “The Growing China-Russia-Iran Strategic Alliance Has Got the Pentagon Trembling”
The Growing China-Russia-Iran Strategic Alliance Has Got the Pentagon Trembling
"This explains why Jane’s Defense Weekly was already saying years ago that Israel could not penetrate Iranian airspace even if it managed to get there. And after the S-300s Iran inevitably will be offered the even more sophisticated S-400s, which are to be delivered to China as well."

Venezuela is bankrupt. Russia is burning thru currency reserves. Sanctions are taking a toll.
So no agreement, with stringent, verifiable and when and where they wish inspections, the west does not have to trade, open markets or anything with Iran And still keeps in place all Sanctions imposed by various countries and the UN.
Iran is very close to an economic collapse.

 

[Montecresto]

That is not the point of this negotiation. They can add on what they please over and above any other treaty signed by Iran.

Seems to be the point of the op though.