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Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party[W:367:425****]

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I'm not at all happy with the way the Chief handled the press conference. He pretty much threw his cop under the bus and dressed him down in a VERY public manner. While I do believe that the cop was overreacting to the situation that's not the way you, as the HMFIC, publicly addresses the matter. He tossed a big chunk of meat at the local jackals. His words are going to be interpreted as "the kids were right and the cop was wrong" and that's likely going to lead to kids trying to see how far they can push things and still be "right". Meanwhile, he's also likely going to have every one of his cops wondering if their next contact is going to end up with them being the center of a press conference. I guarantee that every cop in the McKinney PD is looking at their uniform right now and envisioning tire treads across the chest.

Police Chief was right. They don't need a clown like him on the force, good riddance to him.
 
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While not directed at me, I personally would welcome that for any officer that feels as such - if they don't want to do their job, let them resign and open-up their slot for someone that does.

In my city the police are reasonable well-paid with good benefits & pensions - consequently, there's a huge waiting list to get in. I would welcome the early resignation of those officers that don't feel the obligation to perform their duties to the highest standards.

I suspect their hard-working fellow officers feel the same!

Same in my town. However, folks still get tased, still get charged with resisting, and the one teen put on the ground and cuffed would get put on the ground and cuffed here.
 
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Cute, but meaningless. Nobody hates cops. What people hate is abuse of power, excessive force, heavy handed responses that exceed the need by unprofessional police officers. Your protests are not going to drown out the protests of American citizens fed up with it. And we will see to it that this problem is properly addressed!!!
 
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I'd be willing to bet that the other officers in that unit know each other well enough to say to each other... "Well I saw this coming to that asshat."
Exactly!

I wouldn't doubt this possibility, and mentioned this up-thread.

That might explain why 11 officers were calm & nonreactive, while Rambo was running-around hyper, in circles, screaming.

For all we know, his fellow officers may be thinking: "Good riddance"!
 
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Or maybe the chief should be taken at his word, that he doesn't want this type of behaviour from his officers.

I've felt a groundswell of change taking place in the country recently, especially over the past few months - there's very little public tolerance left for police malfeasance, and camera phones are the ubiquitous tool bringing these types of actions to light.

Policing is an extremely difficult job (though in my city it pays well with great benefits), but there's no place for those that abuse their badge & oath. It's a privilege to be allowed the use of deadly force, and it's not a privilege to be earned or taken lightly.

And who could disagree with this??
 
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Result: cops can't do their job, because they don't know how to.

They do know how...they just don't want to. Not anymore.
 
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Cute, but meaningless. Nobody hates cops. What people hate is abuse of power, excessive force, heavy handed responses that exceed the need by unprofessional police officers. Your protests are not going to drown out the protests of American citizens fed up with it. And we will see to it that this problem is properly addressed!!!

Yes, there are some that do hate cops. Some right here on this forum. Your protests are rendered meaningless by these folks, that's what drowns out your voice crying in the wilderness.
 
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He didn't appear to be harassing the white kids who were at the pool party in the video...

The guy that made the video, white, said it was as though he was invisible!
 
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I'm not at all happy with the way the Chief handled the press conference. He pretty much threw his cop under the bus and dressed him down in a VERY public manner. While I do believe that the cop was overreacting to the situation that's not the way you, as the HMFIC, publicly addresses the matter. He tossed a big chunk of meat at the local jackals. His words are going to be interpreted as "the kids were right and the cop was wrong" and that's likely going to lead to kids trying to see how far they can push things and still be "right". Meanwhile, he's also likely going to have every one of his cops wondering if their next contact is going to end up with them being the center of a press conference. I guarantee that every cop in the McKinney PD is looking at their uniform right now and envisioning tire treads across the chest.

Figures you'd say that. Which belies the fact that had the cop executed his duties in a professional manor, and according to his training, and in line with his departments code of conduct, the police chief wouldn't even be holding a press conference. The police chiefs response is evidence that Americans are angry as hell over this, and our voices are drowning yours out. I hope you feel good about being on the completely wrong side of our nations constitution and the people's Bill of Rights!
 
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He's already resigned and the Chief is playing CYA. I can only hope that someday every cop in your area does the same, providing you with the opportunity to live with the world you wish from your armchair.

But why would we (or you) wish for professional cops which honor their oaths, follow department conduct codes and respect the Bill of Rights to resign their jobs, hmm? It seems to me that those are the ones we would all want on the job. Those committed to being PEACE officers!
 
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Here some ironic news. The cop that resigned yesterday......guess what......he's claiming PTSD. Lol. He responded to 2 suicide calls in the complex recently. He says he was in no emotional state to respond to the pool call. Now let's see how the anti PTSD'er's respond to this new information. Lol
 
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My understanding is that lots and lots of people loved it. I've also heard more than a handful calling for further action to be taken against Casebolt including "charges" (though I'm not really sure what he should be charged with).

My concern is that the Chief's handling of this will have a chilling effect on the work his officers are tasked with. If they come to believe that their chain of command doesn't have their back and will cave in to public criticism at the drop of a hat then they will naturally begin to avoid situations where their actions might come under scrutiny. If, for example, they try to stop some creepy guy who is just hanging around a playground for a field interview and the guy takes off they may just let him go because "he really hasn't done anything" and the cell phones were out filming. If, later that afternoon, a 3 year old goes missing from the playground that's just kind of the way things go. They might have been able to at least question the guy if they had his name and address but since there would have been public outrage for stopping him "for no reason" they'll just have to go on to a plan B...as long as it doesn't involve upsetting the sensitivities of the locals.

I've seen people discussing these cop interactions like police work is something a monkey could do effectively. It isn't. It's a constant process of evaluating situations, evidence and behaviors to figure out whether it means anything or not and there is always the risk that if one of those evaluations is wrong the cop or someone else could end up injured or dead. The cavalier attitude that so many people display regarding police work is disturbing and the main reason it's so disturbing is that there is rarely any real thought that goes into WHY that attitude is so prevalent. It strikes me that people are simply sitting there saying "Well, that cop makes me feel bad/angry/afraid/whatever and he should be punished". Well, we don't get to punish people because we "feel" like they should be punished. That's anarchy and results in a self destructive society.

If the chain of command takes the back of an unprofessional cop who has dishonored his profession, violated department policies, disrespected the Bill of Rights, we'll be insisting on his removal too! Careful what you wish for.
 
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Oh yes, I'm sure you tell yourself that. Believing it so you don't have to recognize the weakness of your views is not the same as living the reality.

Well, I've made 63 years my way, something must be going right. I pay attention to my surroundings and I carry a pistol. If I need the police I will call them, as a last resort. Mainly, if I think I am going somewhere I might need a gun, I don't go there. It's called avoiding trouble. You might want to try it sometimes. It beats trying to be the tough guy all the time.
 
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Yes, there are some that do hate cops. Some right here on this forum. Your protests are rendered meaningless by these folks, that's what drowns out your voice crying in the wilderness.

Except the voices like mine are ruling the day, it's you guys that aren't being heard. Just go listen to the chiefs presser!!!
 
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Here some ironic news. The cop that resigned yesterday......guess what......he's claiming PTSD. Lol. He responded to 2 suicide calls in the complex recently. He says he was in no emotional state to respond to the pool call. Now let's see how the anti PTSD'er's respond to this new information. Lol

Don't know what an anti-PTSDer is! but seems to me departments have a new thing to screen out.
 
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Don't know what an anti-PTSDer is! but seems to me departments have a new thing to screen out.
Do you screen them out after they respond to 2 suicide calls, or do you screen them out because they might have to respond to 2 suicide calls? "Sorry Joe, but that's the second suicide call you responded to, so we're going to have to let you go." Not sure that makes much sense.
 
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Do you screen them out after they respond to 2 suicide calls, or do you screen them out because they might have to respond to 2 suicide calls? "Sorry Joe, but that's the second suicide call you responded to, so we're going to have to let you go." Not sure that makes much sense.

Am I to assume that he's a veteran?
 
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Am I to assume that he's a veteran?
No idea. He was talking about the 2 suicide calls Casebolt responded to earlier in the day before the pool party incident.
 
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Don't know what an anti-PTSDer is! but seems to me departments have a new thing to screen out.

That was in reference to the other thread about the kid who killed himself after being in jail for 3 yrs without being convicted. Some there were saying that it couldn't be PTSD because he killed himself 3 yrs after the incident. I find it ironic that now this clown is going to claim some sort of instability based on 2 suicide responses.
 
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No idea. He was talking about the 2 suicide calls Casebolt responded to earlier in the day before the pool party incident.

Oh I see, he's claiming PTSD from those two suicide calls.
 
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You're not a good cop. There's good cops, probably the vast majority, and there's bad cops, probably the minority, if you have a problem getting ride of the bad cops, then you have issues.

"Bad cops" in your eyes are the Type A heroes that solve problems quickly and efficiently and dont care about what some liberal Type B personality intoverted nerd thinks of them.


The officer acted appropriately ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION. If he acted this way to a noise complaint between two neighbors then you MIGHT have a point but the FACTS show that he was by himself, surrounded by out of control thugs causing problems, then was ATTACKED by both females (that he pushed away) and two makes, one of which reached at his waistband (hence why this great officer drew his gun) and the attackers backed away. No one got shot, no one got hurt...well....except the officers family, who now have an unemployed father who had to resign for doing his job.

And after listening to the cowardly, nutless McKinney police chief, I dont blame him for resigning. I wouldnt want to work for that ***** ass bitch either.
 
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Oh I see, he's claiming PTSD from those two suicide calls.
I don't know if Casebolt is making that specific claim, but the other poster mentioned PTSD.
 
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