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Cop Suspended After Arrests At Teen Pool Party[W:367:425****]

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logansrun said:
I see no "excess and abuse". Every thing I see in the video is the police doing their job in a fluid situation as best they can.
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That's discouraging, but glad to know your position on that.
 
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Montecresto said:
No, I'll not come off it, it's offensive, inappropriate, unnecessary and unprofessional. You go right ahead and defend this unacceptable police conduct all you want CB. But we're increasing in numbers and voice, those of us that are angry about this, and we won't be quiet about it either. The recordings are going to continue to capture this misconduct and abuse of authority and angry citizens are going to continue to insist it be addressed, not maybe.
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When those of you who are angry can start being honest about the situation the rest of us will start paying more attention to you. The kids WERE behaving improperly and WERE to blame for creating the situation that necessitated a police response. At some point you need to accept that their behavior is every bit as inappropriate and unacceptable as that of the cop.
 
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Lutherf said:
The police response you see in the video that's going around is one part of a larger response and is in no way indicative of everything else that was happening. The cop in the clip we all are seeing is being more heavy handed than necessary and he's trying to do way more stuff than he's capable of but what he does is being portrayed as being FAR worse than it actually is.
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No it's not, it's being criticized for being the heavy handed excess that you agree to in your own post here. And those of us that are complaining about it want it to stop. Agreeing that it's "heavy handedness" don't you want it to stop too? Apparently, his superiors saw enough misconduct in the video to pull him from duty while they investigate the entire event and decide on appropriate action to be taken against this heavy handed cop. Even Crue Cab has stated that the cop should be wrote up and suspended for a week. The problem is that you're trivializing it and don't seem to think a reprimand of any sort is in order. If you do, then you should say as much.
 
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Lutherf said:
When those of you who are angry can start being honest about the situation the rest of us will start paying more attention to you. The kids WERE behaving improperly and WERE to blame for creating the situation that necessitated a police response. At some point you need to accept that their behavior is every bit as inappropriate and unacceptable as that of the cop.
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Well, it's not really you that I need paying attention to me. I doubt you'd be in any position to enforce proper police conduct anywhere.
 
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Montecresto said:
No it's not, it's being criticized for being the heavy handed excess that you agree to in your own post here. And those of us that are complaining about it want it to stop. Agreeing that it's "heavy handedness" don't you want it to stop too? Apparently, his superiors saw enough misconduct in the video to pull him from duty while they investigate the entire event and decide on appropriate action to be taken against this heavy handed cop. Even Crue Cab has stated that the cop should be wrote up and suspended for a week. The problem is that you're trivializing it and don't seem to think a reprimand of any sort is in order. If you do, then you should say as much.
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It's likely that he was pulled from duty more as a political move to mitigate the likelihood of riots and crap.

You're claiming that I'm trivializing the cop's behavior. Fine. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but I have yet to see you criticize the behavior of the kids or acknowledge that it was their actions that necessitated the police response. This isn't a one sided issue and until all those "victims" out there start acknowledging that they are part of the problem it will never be fixed.
 
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Montecresto said:
That's discouraging, but glad to know your position on that.
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I have been a guest at parties when the police showed up. When people at the party acted calmly, the police just broke the party up and sent people on their way. At the parties when they did not, the police response was not nearly as pleasant for the ones who were not behaving like rational people. I have never been arrested even when at one of the mayhem events. Not being an ass to the police often saves you the cost of bonds and lawyers and fines. "Hey, I was just here trying to get laid, but now that ain't gonna happen, damn it" is honesty they can work with.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
Ok so Black host invites too many people over. White lady gets mad and hurls racial insults then assaults. Cops come and rounds up all the darkies. *scratches head* Guess we know what is more important to that society.
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Insulting someone isn't a crime, trespassing is.
 
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Lutherf said:
When those of you who are angry can start being honest about the situation the rest of us will start paying more attention to you. The kids WERE behaving improperly and WERE to blame for creating the situation that necessitated a police response. At some point you need to accept that their behavior is every bit as inappropriate and unacceptable as that of the cop.
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Guess I can agree to that. Still think its odd that the cop only targeted black people though. Seems like subconscious racism to me. A lot of the kids there prolly knew they were crashing the scene. Still think the cops use of force against a non-violent is still a bit more important though.
 
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clownboy said:
Come off it. You don't care a bit about the language used when it's the criminal using it. There are times when foul language has an effect.

And this nonsense about the cops acting like punks is just silly. Some punks organized a crash of a community event in a private community, they had their excuse ready to go. They were destructive little assholes and the police were called.
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Of course noone cares about a criminal acting like a loud mouthed, cursing jerk... Thats what a criminal is expected to do.... What you dont expect... Is a cop to do it. So why would someone judge the criminal over the cop? You are saying its ok for cops to act like douchey jerks because noone chastizes criminals? That is realllly your argument?? "You let criminals do it so cops should be able to do it to" 0.0
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
Of course noone cares about a criminal acting like a loud mouthed, cursing jerk... Thats what a criminal is expected to do.... What you dont expect... Is a cop to do it. So why would someone judge the criminal over the cop? You are saying its ok for cops to act like douchey jerks because noone chastizes criminals? That is realllly your argument?? "You let criminals do it so cops should be able to do it to" 0.0
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Police shouldnt be able to curse ?

Is that the issue ?
 
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Fenton said:
Police shouldnt be able to curse ?

Is that the issue ?
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Police cursing and using profanity doesnt bother me much (maybe if I had little kids around). But im explaining how his stance is retarded. "You are ok with criminals cursing so you should be ok with cops cursing". Really retarded argument. Of course no one gets offended when a scallywag curses. Its expected of them. But when a cop acts like a scallywag......
 
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Deuce said:
I saw the video. The officer was out of line.
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What I don't understand is why people today (some) think it's okay to physically resist arrest. That never works in their favor.
 
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Fenton said:
Police shouldnt be able to curse ?

Is that the issue ?
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The way he was talking to the kids, and the language he was using toward the kids was inappropriate. Cops should be professional when working, and noone should talk to kids who aren't really doing anything wrong that way.
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
Of course noone cares about a criminal acting like a loud mouthed, cursing jerk... Thats what a criminal is expected to do.... What you dont expect... Is a cop to do it. So why would someone judge the criminal over the cop? You are saying its ok for cops to act like douchey jerks because noone chastizes criminals? That is realllly your argument?? "You let criminals do it so cops should be able to do it to" 0.0
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So maybe the criminals (and you maybe) should stop "Making Excuses for bad behavior altogether", and maybe stop using the race card as a tool to get out of the consequences that bad behavior leads to. It was a gated community pool. Had to have an ID to enter. Hopping the fence is not about race, it's about bad behavior, which comes in a variety of genders, and colors.
 
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Kreton said:
The way he was talking to the kids, and the language he was using toward the kids was inappropriate. Cops should be professional when working, and noone should talk to kids who aren't really doing anything wrong that way.
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Nonsense.

First, its not like those kids were being assaulted by words theyve never heard before.

The Music being played by the DJ at that party was filled with expletives.

Second, it was his job to control a already out of control situation.

Kids were refusing his commands and even jumping towards him.

I wonder what any of the people who criticize this officers actions would have done of it was THEIR JOB to replace anarchy with order.

How would they or you have gone about it ?

Saying " please " ? Asking nicely ? Those kids would have treated you like dirt while you continued to lose control of the situation.
 
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There is also absolutely no excuse for juveniles to act like that either.
 
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Lutherf said:
It's likely that he was pulled from duty more as a political move to mitigate the likelihood of riots and crap.

You're claiming that I'm trivializing the cop's behavior. Fine. You're certainly entitled to your opinion but I have yet to see you criticize the behavior of the kids or acknowledge that it was their actions that necessitated the police response. This isn't a one sided issue and until all those "victims" out there start acknowledging that they are part of the problem it will never be fixed.
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I can't tell by the video what the kids are doing wrong, but based on eye witness testimony, calling the police in seemed certainly prudent and a necessary response. The point again Lutherf, is that you and I have already agreed that the response they got was excessive. Of course we want the kids prosecuted for any laws that they broke, none of which are apparent in the video, but there you go, I'm calling out the kids. Now do like CC and call for the cops reprimand and we can all go forward.
 
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Objective Voice said:
Here's an interview from USAToday of the only White person allegedly detained at the party. Her account supports what most people have already said...that the majority of the kids who were detained were Black teens. But when you consider how other teens were trying to sneak their friends into the pool area by passing their invitation/pass over the poor area fence, it kinda makes sense that they were the only people being pursued. That said, this cop's behavior was still uncalled for.
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Wow!!

According to her, she approached the police to tell them what happened, and the cops arrested her because she was "involved" (as a witness)

Great way to make witnesses more willing to cooperate with police!!!
 
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HowardBThiname said:
What I don't understand is why people today (some) think it's okay to physically resist arrest. That never works in their favor.
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They're hoping the cops get rough and they can sue for a free meal ticket.
 
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Peter Grimm said:
Living in Dallas, I have seen a pattern lately of inner city youths coming to affluent areas to hang out. They need to stay in their own neighborhoods. Too often, they come to nice areas and fight each other, are rowdy, listen to rap music, etc.
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They're done destroying their area, so they go to another area and destroy it.
 
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logansrun said:
I have been a guest at parties when the police showed up. When people at the party acted calmly, the police just broke the party up and sent people on their way. At the parties when they did not, the police response was not nearly as pleasant for the ones who were not behaving like rational people. I have never been arrested even when at one of the mayhem events. Not being an ass to the police often saves you the cost of bonds and lawyers and fines. "Hey, I was just here trying to get laid, but now that ain't gonna happen, damn it" is honesty they can work with.
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I've been in similar citations and seen various outcomes including cops with a chip on their shoulder. It's always prudent to accommodate a cop, even when he's wrong, even when he's belligerent, maintain your composure and then do as six of us did a couple years ago paying a visit to the police chief and filing a formal complaint. It doesn't happen enough, people are generally lazy about it, but bad police conduct should always be reported. And I'm delighted that technology has given the public a voice now, and that we have a way to say see, here it is, this is what we've been talking about all along. Now we can prove it. I seriously doubt this officer would have been suspended if not for a citizens i-phone footage.
 
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sangha said:
Wow!!

According to her, she approached the police to tell them what happened, and the cops arrested her because she was "involved" (as a witness)

Great way to make witnesses more willing to cooperate with police!!!
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If the girl's name is Grace then she was likely more than just a witness. https://twitter.com/imustbegrace/media
 
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