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Toddler dies in hot car as mom teaches inside school

Scatterbrained? What a load of crap. Lousy parents is more like it.

Great parents put their children above all else and NEVER forget them in a car unattended...for ANY length of time. My mother never left me in a car (or any of my siblings). I lived with a woman who had children and she would never forget her children, no matter how busy she was. Never. Heck, I never forgot about them and they were not even my children.

The only people who forget about their children left unattended in a car are lousy parents...period.

And level of 'busyness' is no excuse whatsoever. Your children - especially if they are pre-school - should always be the most important thing in your lives and nothing should be able to make you 'scatterbrained' about them. Not your job, your friends, your health...nothing.

I remember a case where a man didn't usually take his child to daycare in the morning. One morning he was responsible for doing it and the child slept during the trip. He went straight to work and forgot about the child. I would not punish someone who made that mistake. Losing the child and dealing with his family's anger will be punishment enough.

From what I have seen in the media, the punishment varies greatly from no prosection at all to years in prison. Anecdotally, the perp's socio-economic status seems to be the major factor in determining punishment.
 
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Common sense tends to be neither common nor sensical. It is typically built off of false significance.

So again, let me know when you have the scientific data and statistics to back up your claim, as scientists have already reported how these lapses occur.

To keep it even simpler here. If a child is in your custody you are responsible to ensure that child is cared for. If you strap a child into a car you are responsible to ensure that child is removed from that car.

Oops I forgot is not a an excuse to kill children.
 
I remember a case where a man didn't usually take his child to daycare in the morning. One morning he was responsible for doing it and the child slept during the trip. He went straight to work and forgot about the child. I would not punish someone who made that mistake. Losing the child and dealing with his family's anger will be punishment enough.

Interesting. I didn't know that taking care of an infant was so predictable that a single "new" instance can result in forgetting you have one.

My husband travelled more often than he was home but luckily on the days where he was home and I had an early meeting or something, he moved with the times and was able to remember he actually had 3 kids under the age of 5. Good thing most men are like my husband, or else babies would be dying by the hour because Dad has to drive them somewhere.

I wonder if Dad would have forgotten to feed the child too if it wasn't staring him in the face. Ooops his mother usually feeds him, I just.....forgot.

OMFG.
 
Until the last 10-20 years or so, I never remember hearing of a parent forgetting a child. I never knew anyone who was accidentally left somewhere (with the exception of the movie Home Alone, which was supposed to be a farce). I never knew of anyone getting left on vacation, in the mall, in the hairdresser....nothing. If this phenomena is physical, I'd like to know how often this happened in history? Can anyone name a single instance of a famous story of some infant being simply left somewhere because the parents "forgot" about him/her?
Perhaps this an artifact of the car seat age, with kids locked in seats they cannot get out of.
I remember a few stories of kids dying in cars in the 70's,
but it is fairly common in Houston,(too common, if you ask me).
 
Interesting. I didn't know that taking care of an infant was so predictable that a single "new" instance can result in forgetting you have one.

My husband travelled more often than he was home but luckily on the days where he was home and I had an early meeting or something, he moved with the times and was able to remember he actually had 3 kids under the age of 5. Good thing most men are like my husband, or else babies would be dying by the hour because Dad has to drive them somewhere.

I wonder if Dad would have forgotten to feed the child too if it wasn't staring him in the face. Ooops his mother usually feeds him, I just.....forgot.

OMFG.

A study someone did says its ok if you kill your children as long as you forget.
 
To keep it even simpler here. If a child is in your custody you are responsible to ensure that child is cared for. If you strap a child into a car you are responsible to ensure that child is removed from that car.

Oops I forgot is not a an excuse to kill children.

perchance not, but it does not mean it was done intentionally or with malice.
 
Perhaps this an artifact of the car seat age, with kids locked in seats they cannot get out of.
I remember a few stories of kids dying in cars in the 70's,
but it is fairly common in Houston,(too common, if you ask me).

I remember a kid in NJ dying in a car around the 1970s (I was young) because he was a toddler who climbed into his parents' car in the driveway without them knowing, and he locked himself in. The parents, as soon as they noticed he was gone, called the cops, but nobody looked in the car. The kid unfortunately died. I never remember anyone forgetting a kid in a car in the 1970s.
 
I remember a case where a man didn't usually take his child to daycare in the morning. One morning he was responsible for doing it and the child slept during the trip. He went straight to work and forgot about the child. I would not punish someone who made that mistake. Losing the child and dealing with his family's anger will be punishment enough.

From what I have seen in the media, the punishment varies greatly from no prosection at all to years in prison. Anecdotally, the perp's socio-economic status seems to be the major factor in determining punishment.

Was that case you remember also the one the same one I remember with same details but the dad was busted googling kid dying in a car, went to his car at lunch and didn't see the kid, and was sexting all morning to various women?

Sorry but there isn't any excuse for leaving a kid especially in a hot car.
 
perchance not, but it does not mean it was done intentionally or with malice.

If your actions and negligence cause children to die, it is still a crime in most cases. Should be all. Intent or malice should play a factor in determining severity of sentence, but lack of intent does not exclude you from being responsible for your actions. In this case, this woman knowingly strapped an infant in her car and drove to work and left the child in the car all day causing her death. Her actions, her choices, her negligence (or intention) caused this child to die a pretty horrible death. Forgetting to care for your children is not an excuse for neglect, and damn sure not an excuse for such extreme neglect that your child dies. This death is 100% on her.
 
perchance not, but it does not mean it was done intentionally or with malice.

You're right, but vehicular homicide usually isn't intentional or committed with malice, either. Yet those people pay a penalty for their crimes.
 
You're right, but vehicular homicide usually isn't intentional or committed with malice, either. Yet those people pay a penalty for their crimes.

...depending on how rich they are, yes.
 
If your actions and negligence cause children to die, it is still a crime in most cases. Should be all. Intent or malice should play a factor in determining severity of sentence, but lack of intent does not exclude you from being responsible for your actions. In this case, this woman knowingly strapped an infant in her car and drove to work and left the child in the car all day causing her death. Her actions, her choices, her negligence (or intention) caused this child to die a pretty horrible death. Forgetting to care for your children is not an excuse for neglect, and damn sure not an excuse for such extreme neglect that your child dies. This death is 100% on her.

I remember being in a panic when I used to work at an office thinking I left my coffee pot on at home. I can't for the life of me imagine 1, never thinking about my child and 2, when I do think about my child, not thinking "Hey I don't remember taking him to day care this morning. Oh ****!".

I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about me. Probably that I'm OCD or something. Most people would call me a normal responsible adult/parent.
 
I remember being in a panic when I used to work at an office thinking I left my coffee pot on at home. I can't for the life of me imagine 1, never thinking about my child and 2, when I do think about my child, not thinking "Hey I don't remember taking him to day care this morning. Oh ****!".

I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about me. Probably that I'm OCD or something. Most people would call me a normal responsible adult/parent.

You are going to have to be medicated to address that OCD. And some other meds for the or something.
 
I remember being in a panic when I used to work at an office thinking I left my coffee pot on at home. I can't for the life of me imagine 1, never thinking about my child and 2, when I do think about my child, not thinking "Hey I don't remember taking him to day care this morning. Oh ****!".

I wonder what those psychiatrists would say about me. Probably that I'm OCD or something. Most people would call me a normal responsible adult/parent.

And we dont know that she did forget, or that her routine changed based on any thing i've read. People are assuming her routine changed.
 
Until the last 10-20 years or so, I never remember hearing of a parent forgetting a child. I never knew anyone who was accidentally left somewhere (with the exception of the movie Home Alone, which was supposed to be a farce). I never knew of anyone getting left on vacation, in the mall, in the hairdresser....nothing. If this phenomena is physical, I'd like to know how often this happened in history? Can anyone name a single instance of a famous story of some infant being simply left somewhere because the parents "forgot" about him/her?
I looked around a bit, You appear to be correct, I found this graph that shows a big increase
about 1994.
http://www.kidsandcars.org/userfiles/dangers/heat-stroke/airbag-vs-heat-stroke-chart.pdf
 
And we dont know that she did forget, or that her routine changed based on any thing i've read. People are assuming her routine changed.

Yup. I never heard that the child's father was the one who normally drove the child to work. Not that it would be an excuse for me, but for some, apparently a simple change in routine explains neglecting your toddler to death.
 
Damn, that number keeps going up and up. I guess all of these chemical brain issues that result in deaths of children left in car seats didn't start to manifest themselves until 1995.
I wonder how difficult it would be to tie a child sensing detector to, say the "you left your headlights on warming"?
 
I wonder how difficult it would be to tie a child sensing detector to, say the "you left your headlights on warming"?

I know, right? We get a noise when we don't hook our seatbelts. We get one when we leave our lights on. I'm gathering that some people need one so they remember they have kids in the backseat. But I think it may be hard to do, unless cars can have a special "car seat" mode, and it detects a car seat, and beeps when the car stops?
 
I know, right? We get a noise when we don't hook our seatbelts. We get one when we leave our lights on. I'm gathering that some people need one so they remember they have kids in the backseat. But I think it may be hard to do, unless cars can have a special "car seat" mode, and it detects a car seat, and beeps when the car stops?

If you need something to remind you that you have children in the car, you probably shouldn't have children in your care.
 
If you need something to remind you that you have children in the car, you probably shouldn't have children in your care.
This is true, but people do not need a license or qualifications to have children.
 
Damn, that number keeps going up and up. I guess all of these chemical brain issues that result in deaths of children left in car seats didn't start to manifest themselves until 1995.

Now that you mention it, were you online in 1995? Did you have a cell phone?

I've been doing a little reading up this afternoon on the impact of electronic devices on the brain. They do have an impact on sleep and memory, and I think that cognitive researchers are going to be busy for eons as the extent to which our brains are being rewired is discovered.
 
Now that you mention it, were you online in 1995? Did you have a cell phone?

I've been doing a little reading up this afternoon on the impact of electronic devices on the brain. They do have an impact on sleep and memory, and I think that cognitive researchers are going to be busy for eons as the extent to which our brains are being rewired is discovered.

I had a car phone in 1995. It was in my car. I don't think I was online. But I was online in the late 1990s and early 2000s when my kids were born. And I had a cell phone. I never forget them anywhere.
 
If you need something to remind you that you have children in the car, you probably shouldn't have children in your care.

I'm just thinking of the handful of kids who will fall victim to their pathologically forgetful parents.
 
Was that case you remember also the one the same one I remember with same details but the dad was busted googling kid dying in a car, went to his car at lunch and didn't see the kid, and was sexting all morning to various women?

Sorry but there isn't any excuse for leaving a kid especially in a hot car.

Different case.
 
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