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In Baltimore schools, free meals for all

The very least that a civilized and compassionate society can do for those that can't provide for themselves (children and many elderly) is provide food for them. I'm disgusted that the OP referred to children as "brats"
 
And Germany has it all:

High wages
High standard of living
High quality of Life
High union protection of trade workers
Good national universal healthcare
Good (nearly free) education at ALL levels
A minimum wage 1.5X ours.
A strong stable economy
3.5X 'exports as percentage of GDP' as ours
A strong manufacturing base similar to what we once had - and growing!

N.B. All the things that we've been told can't successfully co-exist.

It's like I keep pointing out to the others - if you want a first-world democracy, you have to have big government, high effective taxes, and strong regulation. If you lack any of those three, you will not have a first-world democracy. Every once in a while one of them tries to say, "Singapore!", and then I proceed to show them how Singapore has all three...in spades.
 
All kids should be able to get free breakfast and lunch from elementary to high school, it's not like they're getting a quality education despite all the taxes their parents pay.
 
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You do realize this is not limited to Baltimore? They do it in my city. I'm not about to complain that kids are getting fed. :shrug:

But are you sure they are getting dinner? The Government should send food to each students home.
 
I'm sure you can't. I'm not sure how schools went from a subsidized lunch programs to providing breakfast, lunch, and dinner, 7 days a week, year round.

Here is an early press release from LA Unified School District

http://notebook.lausd.net/pls/ptl/docs/PAGE/CA_LAUSD/FLDR_LAUSD_NEWS/FLDR_PRESS_RELEASES/TAB1255189/TAB1255232/GOLDEN%20CARROT%2010%2011%202011.PDF

LAUSD’s Food Services Division provides year round meals for students and has the largest breakfast program in the country. It currently serves more than123 million meals each year. The LAUSD menu meets and exceeds the USDA guidelines and the Institute of Medicine’s nutrient recommendations.
The schools are providing nutritiously convenient food for the kids at their school, where they spend a minimum of 7, and up to 12, hours a day depending on age & activities.

It's for kids who have impoverished or dysfunctional homes on one end, all the way to kids of affluent families who enjoy the convenience of not having to plan finances, logistics, and funding on a daily/weekly/monthly basis with their kids, or have to worry if the kid stays late but doesn't have any snack-food money.

I really don't see your problem with this - feel free to send your kids with bologna sandwiches, if you'd like.

Heck, my kids both went to private prep schools, while I live in the middle of some of the very best public school systems in the country, including my own local district. Even without my kids attending the public schools, I have no problem paying the taxes, because it's reflected in the quality of the young men and women they graduate and the things they go on to do in their lives, and what they add back to the community. A great school system hugely adds to the quality of life of a community.

And good food available to all the kids, nourishing the brains of our future during the critical process of learning, is a good thing from where I'm sitting.
 
Why are we giving these brats free breakfast.? Why can't their parents feed them a breakfast.? Parents should also pack a lunch for the kids.

The OP is clearly a liberal troll taking on a Colbert type character. No conservative would say things so inflammatory.
 
It's like I keep pointing out to the others - if you want a first-world democracy, you have to have big government, high effective taxes, and strong regulation. If you lack any of those three, you will not have a first-world democracy. Every once in a while one of them tries to say, "Singapore!", and then I proceed to show them how Singapore has all three...in spades.
Exactly.

Though I feel strongly to keep government the least size feasible, strong regulation is paramount in order to provide for personal freedoms.

I often point to Germany as an example to those who claim we can't have high wages, national healthcare, union protections, and a strong export economy.

There's no reason to not emulate them in their successes, while keeping our uniquely American identity & culture.
 
Exactly.

Though I feel strongly to keep government the least size feasible, strong regulation is paramount in order to provide for personal freedoms.

I often point to Germany as an example to those who claim we can't have high wages, national healthcare, union protections, and a strong export economy.

There's no reason to not emulate them in their successes, while keeping our uniquely American identity & culture.

Unfortunately, there's a wide swath of our population that seems to think that the very idea of adopting what another nation does - no matter how sensible that something may be - borders on treason itself.
 
Unfortunately, there's a wide swath of our population that seems to think that the very idea of adopting what another nation does - no matter how sensible that something may be - borders on treason itself.
Which is extremely short sighted.
 
It's on it's way of eliminating parents. This is just another step in the process of the ultimate goal. Government knows better than you.

Feeding hungry kids at school ends up eliminating parents? You don't have a slippery slope, you have a slippery water fall!
 
This does not help america. It helps the kids and their parents who are getting more freebies, but it's all paid for by others. Just another transfer of money from working americans to deadbeats.

Well, it's easy to see that you have taken on the role of "victim" in this matter. That you can't see that it's really the kids who are the victims.

So how are these kids directly infringing on you by simply eating food that they might not get otherwise? How would a hungry kid come to understand that he or she is violating you by eating food? Maybe their tax accountants haven't shared the realities about the burdens that they place on the taxpayers by eating food at school?

Since when did kids become a part of the political majority? They are powerless to directly effect government. Kids and the indigent elderly represent the largest minority groups on the planet. The don't have the ability to directly influence government.

Kids don't have the ability to fend for themselves. The don't have the ability to know how to solicit for food from private or government institutions.

Dead beat parents, as you call them, can't be controlled by their children. In other words, kids can't force their parents to lobby for food on their behalf.

School teacher, administrators, ministers, church boards of trustees, and community leaders recognize these kids needs for a lot of things - including food. They are the impetus behind these programs.

Be aware that the numbers are growing...everyday. I'm an atheist, but in your case, I'll pray that you don't ever get to be Emperor of the Universe.
 
Well, it's easy to see that you have taken on the role of "victim" in this matter. That you can't see that it's really the kids who are the victims.

So how are these kids directly infringing on you by simply eating food that they might not get otherwise? How would a hungry kid come to understand that he or she is violating you by eating food? Maybe their tax accountants haven't shared the realities about the burdens that they place on the taxpayers by eating food at school?

Since when did kids become a part of the political majority? They are powerless to directly effect government. Kids and the indigent elderly represent the largest minority groups on the planet. The don't have the ability to directly influence government.

Kids don't have the ability to fend for themselves. The don't have the ability to know how to solicit for food from private or government institutions.

Dead beat parents, as you call them, can't be controlled by their children. In other words, kids can't force their parents to lobby for food on their behalf.

School teacher, administrators, ministers, church boards of trustees, and community leaders recognize these kids needs for a lot of things - including food. They are the impetus behind these programs.

Be aware that the numbers are growing...everyday. I'm an atheist, but in your case, I'll pray that you don't ever get to be Emperor of the Universe.

The only way for his rant to make sense is him being under the impression that school breakfast means parents are no longer allowed to feed their children breakfast.

Which is kindof like saying the National Weather Service eliminates the local news weather guy.
 
The only way for his rant to make sense is him being under the impression that school breakfast means parents are no longer allowed to feed their children breakfast.

Which is kindof like saying the National Weather Service eliminates the local news weather guy.

I hear ya...

Well, this is one of the most trollish OP's around. It's another - the rapist did what he had to do because the woman's cleavage was showing - kind of post.

Hungry kids don't give a **** about taxes, governments, or the world's problems when their stomachs are empty.

The rant is a delusional, misguided, uninformed, selfish, and rancorous perspective.
 
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It used to be that even among the poorest families, they were still able to provide meals for their children. That is a commitment the state feels they should no longer trust to the carbon based units they tolerate as suppliers to their system.

Their welfare allotment is based on how many kids they have. Even welfare bums are given enough money to feed their kids. But they say no, give my kids free meals
 
I generally don't have an issue with this as it's being offered across the board.

It helps middle income families who would rather save the money they'd spend feeding their kids breakfast/lunch and have them do school lunch instead.


This is baltimore. There are no middle or high income parents there. It's all welfare queens.
 
Their welfare allotment is based on how many kids they have. Even welfare bums are given enough money to feed their kids. But they say no, give my kids free meals

Did Jesus teach you to be so rude?
 
This problem wouldn't exist if we told women. You want that welfare check, you have to accept sterilization. Still waiting for some lib to explain why that is a bad idea.

Ending poverty is easy.
 
When I grew up in the UK (many years ago) all children got a school lunch that was sudsidized to almost free, and totally free to poor families. That lunch was nutritionally balanced, having been planned by dieticians. A conservative government scrapped all that, and put in place lunches that were more expensive to the parents, but no longer nutritionally planned, hence cheaper to produce. The result: we had fries every day with either burgers or sausages and baked beans, followed by ice cream. Rarely a fresh vegetable and no more fruit. A lower quality, more cheaply produced meal for a higher price, and less kids qualifying for free lunches. And child obesity rates started to rise.

Some parents do make bad choices. I don't see that their children should be penalised for that. Attack the underlying problems but yes, feed them at school.

Many parents don't make bad choices, but they live in societies where those who are on sickness benefits, unemployment benefits or minimum wage simply can't make ends meet and have trouble putting food on the table. If you're not prepared to radically reform capitalist society and redistribute the wealth more fairly, don't moan about innocent children getting what might be their only decent meal of the day.
 
This problem wouldn't exist if we told women. You want that welfare check, you have to accept sterilization. Still waiting for some lib to explain why that is a bad idea.

Ending poverty is easy.

Only the rich can reproduce? Sick and twisted.
 
This problem wouldn't exist if we told women. You want that welfare check, you have to accept sterilization. Still waiting for some lib to explain why that is a bad idea.

Ending poverty is easy.

You want a liberal to explain to you why government coercing citizens into sterilization is a bad idea.

Interesting.
 
You want a liberal to explain to you why government coercing citizens into sterilization is a bad idea.

Interesting.

Coerced??? Where do you get that.? The women make the choices. They choose to give birth and then they choose to apply for welfare. THINK
 
This does not help america. It helps the kids and their parents who are getting more freebies, but it's all paid for by others. Just another transfer of money from working americans to deadbeats.

Does letting kids starve help America?

That's how deadbeats look at it. They're very happy with someone else paying for their kids meals.

Generally they aren't socially aware or smart enough to understand the dynamics. You sound woefully ignorant.
 
Only the rich can reproduce? Sick and twisted.

Where did i say that??? Once again you have lied.

I do believe poor people should not have kids. That means the rich AND the middle class have kids. Makes perfect sense to everyone except a lib.
 
Coerced??? Where do you get that.? The women make the choices. They choose to give birth and then they choose to apply for welfare. THINK

:lol: Duece agrees with you and you attack him! :lol:
 
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