Re: Nebraska Abolishes Death Penalty
1.)The largest problem at hand isn't false convictions, but executions as a result of those false convictions.
2.) In any case, while I don't want to speak for Gaius I'm fairly certain the "fix" he's referring to is the ability to overturn a false conviction and give the rest of the victim's life back to him. If the victim has been executed, then there is no "rest of his life" to restitute.
1.) I disagree i say its the false convictions first . . without them there is no next step . . life in prison or death sentence . . gotta start with bad domino number one. I also say that because the stats of false death convictions and the reality of most death row people die in prison and or are in there for 20+ years anyway
I get what you are saying but I dont find that to matter in any significant way . . . .
2.) I agree with your guess of what he is probably referring too but that ability to now free them is NOT a fix IMO in anyway what so ever. . .some people may feel its better but its not a fix
Im just sayin im in jail for 20 years and then they release me NOTHING is fixed . . . yes im not "dead" but nothing is fixed . .
lets go through a scenario
its 1995 Say I'm 1995 in my first year of college
my girlfriend is 20
my brothers are 25 and 29
my mom is 43 my dad is 53
my one pap is 67 my grams are 66 and 77
Im falsely convicted of armed robbery, kidnapping, attempted murder and murder (guy held up a store, cops showed up, they shot at him, he shot back, hit a cop but he didnt die, he killed the manager and escaped out the back with a lady clerk). . . .
i get 35 years . . . but after 20 they figure out im innocent . . .now im 49 and the let me out . . . what is fixed? nothing . . .
Im 49 with no education (unless i got one in jail which is unlikely) I've been rapped and beaten up for years, I have little to no family and friends if any at all, im 20 years disconnected, its now 2015, whats a smart phone? internet?
my mom is alive but she is 63, my dad has passed he would have been 73
grandparents passed except for one gram she is hangin on at 86! but she is in a home
my girlfriend is gone, dont know where she is
my brothers are 45 and 49, they have kids . . . .i dont really know them . . . most of them are graduated and in college themselves now, one died in a car accident
so here i am . . . im out . . my mom still loves me, she always did believe i was Innocent . . .the rest of the family not so much . . i did get in to some light trouble when i was younger . . she says i can stay with her, she doesnt drive though she has problems with her legs, she is on disability . . .her neighbor drives her to pick me up . . .
again so here i am . . living in my moms basement at 49, 20 years disconnected . . . time to get educated, learn a trade do something . . . .
I start interacting with some people that hear the news . . . they say im different . . . like 20 years doesnt naturally do that to a person even with out the rapes, assults and losing 20 years of interaction . . .
yes im so glad i was released and it was "fixed"
see, the issue for me is nothing changes . . . . fix the false convictions and require a higher level of evidence for the death penalty . . abolishing it does very littler
false convictions destroy a person . . . . its not "justification" for the death penalty just pointing out that the argument that it can be fixed is false