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ISIS controls half of Syrian territory, monitor says

Indeed. The Islamic Caliphate is well on it's way to being formed. It's sure to export Islamic terrorism much like Al Qaeda did when it was resident in Afghanistan, only at a 100 fold.



The responsibility for the raise of ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate surely rests at Obama's and Hillary's feet. Prior to the Obama administration, both Iraq and Afghanistan were reasonably stable and reasonably secure. Only after Obama's decision to pull out the troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, only after Obama decided to inject himself into the Syrian conflict, did ISIS raise and come to prominence. It's all his and hers.

There are 60 nations in a coalition against ISIS. Some are saying that if each contributed 10K troops into theater it would wipe ISIS off the map in a week. I'm inclined to agree, but without strong US leadership to do so, we are going to have to just accept that ISIS and their Caliphate will be exporting terrorists attacks on the West in a continuous and on going manner, as their goal is to make Islam the religion that dominates all others across the planet.

Welcome to nightmare Earth.




Lets be realistic, you are more likely to be killed by a cop, than a terrorist.


Nightmare will come from within, not some barbarians with limited means.


The idea that ISIS wants to attack us now is dumb propaganda, it would go directly against thier goals of establishing a pan-arabic isamlic caliphate.
 
That's naive, while Obama and Hillary own as much, arguably more responsibility for the rise of the Islamic State, you cannot let Bush off the hook for his earlier contribution. This is a result of bi-partisan failure.

I'd disagree.

If Obama hadn't pulled the troops and achieve the needed SoF agreements, troop strength would have been such as to stop the ISIS growth before it came to the prominence that it has.

Remember, Obama inherited a fairly stable and fairly secure Iraq and Afghanistan, and then let those accomplishments slip away.
 
Lets be realistic, you are more likely to be killed by a cop, than a terrorist.


Nightmare will come from within, not some barbarians with limited means.


The idea that ISIS wants to attack us now is dumb propaganda, it would go directly against thier goals of establishing a pan-arabic isamlic caliphate.

Dunno about that. 9/11 would disagree with you, and ISIS now has more people, more land, more money, and more resources than did Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
 
Dunno about that. 9/11 would disagree with you, and ISIS now has more people, more land, more money, and more resources than did Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

Agreed, and then theres the fact that ISIS is now in all 50 states, and the attack in texas a few weeks ago were by ISIS terrorists.
 
No this literally has nothing to do with Obama's leadership. Iraq is a hot topic the world over and several countries are struggling to approach this, just look at your presidential hopefuls stumble over the Iraq question. No one wants to put boots on the ground and no one has a better alternative.

Im going to have to disagree. Obama pulled the US out of Iraq and then was in denial (JV team) as ISIS rapidly expanded there. And then he committed to a response (no ground troops, air strikes only) that can only lose-troops on the ground are required.

ISIS continues to take ground, capture large and highly symbolic cities, and now controls half of Syria.

THIS is the time for leadership-where is it?
 
I'd disagree.

If Obama hadn't pulled the troops and achieve the needed SoF agreements, troop strength would have been such as to stop the ISIS growth before it came to the prominence that it has.

Remember, Obama inherited a fairly stable and fairly secure Iraq and Afghanistan, and then let those accomplishments slip away.

Dude, you're not required to accept responsibility for Bush's mistakes. It's ok, take a breathe, relax, it's on him. Hell, it doesn't even matter if your patronizing eyes don't see it.
 
Dunno about that. 9/11 would disagree with you, and ISIS now has more people, more land, more money, and more resources than did Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.




Cops kill on average 1000 civilians per year, since 911, how many people in the US have terrorists kill?


And think about it, ISIS wants to establish the caliphate, as did al qaeda, al qaeda attacked us so we would destabilize the region, ta-da!!! we did just that, so the attack the US part is over, "the awakening" is over (that was the arab spring), the caliphate is declared and they are expanding it as planned long before 911.

the fact this government lies to us about it, doesn't make us any more dangerous.
 
Dunno about that. 9/11 would disagree with you, and ISIS now has more people, more land, more money, and more resources than did Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

Exactly. Seems the more the US fights AQ, the stronger they become. :shock:
 
Agreed, and then theres the fact that ISIS is now in all 50 states, and the attack in texas a few weeks ago were by ISIS terrorists.

Yep yep. That 2006 NIE concluded that the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused a increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Stop supporting US military adventurism that endangers us, it's very anti-American, hear?
 
Yep yep. That 2006 NIE concluded that the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused a increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Stop supporting US military adventurism that endangers us, it's very anti-American, hear?

Yeah that's true....but later Intel reports came out now. Stating all that increased by 60% all under BO. Not only has ISIS increased in Ground. But so to did Ansar al Sharia. From Yemen to Libya. Moreover they have become more sophisticated under BO. More daring and Bold Under BO. Then AQ has grown. Plus there are more Terrorist groups thriving under BOs so called Leadership.

Not only did they increase in ground, but in numbers. More attacks and more Suicide bomber attacks all Under BO. Where ISIS was running 35 suicide Bombers in Iraq.....a week.

So what Bush jr caused. BO peep has allowed the problem to become 10 times more worse. 10 times more deadlier. Completely overshadowing Bush jr and placing all Americans and their Interest at more risk of harm than ever before. Not even Bush Jr can match being so much of a **** up! :shock:

Now BO peep has made us way more less safe. Not only in the now and present moment. But for the next 15 years with just ISIS alone. That's the Future Bro.

Brought to you by Team Democrat. No Getting around that fact at all!
 
Yep yep. That 2006 NIE concluded that the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused a increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Stop supporting US military adventurism that endangers us, it's very anti-American, hear?

I dont cow tow to backwards head-chopping jihadi's, hear? Tell someone else to appease, Im not doing it.
 
Yeah that's true....but later Intel reports came out now. Stating all that increased by 60% all under BO. Not only has ISIS increased in Ground. But so to did Ansar al Sharia. From Yemen to Libya. Moreover they have become more sophisticated under BO. More daring and Bold Under BO. Then AQ has grown. Plus there are more Terrorist groups thriving under BOs so called Leadership.

Not only did they increase in ground, but in numbers. More attacks and more Suicide bomber attacks all Under BO. Where ISIS was running 35 suicide Bombers in Iraq.....a week.

So what Bush jr caused. BO peep has allowed the problem to become 10 times more worse. 10 times more deadlier. Completely overshadowing Bush jr and placing all Americans and their Interest at more risk of harm than ever before. Not even Bush Jr can match being so much of a **** up! :shock:

Now BO peep has made us way more less safe. Not only in the now and present moment. But for the next 15 years with just ISIS alone. That's the Future Bro.

Brought to you by Team Democrat. No Getting around that fact at all!

World (and domestic) terror has flourished under Obama. He's soft on terror.
 
Yeah that's true....but later Intel reports came out now. Stating all that increased by 60% all under BO. Not only has ISIS increased in Ground. But so to did Ansar al Sharia. From Yemen to Libya. Moreover they have become more sophisticated under BO. More daring and Bold Under BO. Then AQ has grown. Plus there are more Terrorist groups thriving under BOs so called Leadership.

Not only did they increase in ground, but in numbers. More attacks and more Suicide bomber attacks all Under BO. Where ISIS was running 35 suicide Bombers in Iraq.....a week.

So what Bush jr caused. BO peep has allowed the problem to become 10 times more worse. 10 times more deadlier. Completely overshadowing Bush jr and placing all Americans and their Interest at more risk of harm than ever before. Not even Bush Jr can match being so much of a **** up! :shock:

Now BO peep has made us way more less safe. Not only in the now and present moment. But for the next 15 years with just ISIS alone. That's the Future Bro.

Brought to you by Team Democrat. No Getting around that fact at all!

Yep, and we've been thru that before, you and I, as well. What's the point. I accept the fact that Obama's ME policies have had a greater impact on global terrorism than Bush's did. The problem is in you accepting Bush's contribution. So, do we accomplish anything with that?
 
I dont cow tow to backwards head-chopping jihadi's, hear? Tell someone else to appease, Im not doing it.

Oh I know you don't, you just support policies that increase the risks. Not very bright, see.
 
Yep, and we've been thru that before, you and I, as well. What's the point. I accept the fact that Obama's ME policies have had a greater impact on global terrorism than Bush's did. The problem is in you accepting Bush's contribution. So, do we accomplish anything with that?

There has never been any confusion to what Bush Jr contributed to.....but now one can agree that BO has had a greater impact. Admit that.....and never talk about how much BO caused things to be far worse than Anything dealt with by Bush Jr.
 
Than they die, Im not appeasing them. Crouch down and lick their hand.

No, they don't, not with the approach you support. They just multiply. Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad did a far better job at containment of Islamic extremists than either Bush or Obama could ever hope to. And you, Mr Conservative, for all your tough man talk are but a pimple on an Islamic State fighters ass who would chop your head off while you were trying to figure out where the breech is on your weapon. :lamo
 
There has never been any confusion to what Bush Jr contributed to.....but now one can agree that BO has had a greater impact. Admit that.....and never talk about how much BO caused things to be far worse than Anything dealt with by Bush Jr.

How many times, in how many different ways must I point out to you that Obama's policies have been fuel on Bush's fire. Dude I'm wondering what's wrong with you. Neither of those two men have advanced sound policies in the ME. Stop pouting. Do something.
 
The "territory" ISIS control is mostly desert... From the article, "The areas ISIS holds are mostly sparsely inhabited. ".

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How many times, in how many different ways must I point out to you that Obama's policies have been fuel on Bush's fire. Dude I'm wondering what's wrong with you. Neither of those two men have advanced sound policies in the ME. Stop pouting. Do something.

It appears you downplay it like here. BO policies fuel on Juniors fire. That could be taken as a sprinkle here and there. Not so much like something that got out of control or worse. Like creating a whole new type of fire.

But then again you have shown when directed at BO.....while admitting BO has added fuel. That Bush Jr is who you will go and take it too.

Always back to Buuuuuuusssssh. Sure hope ya aren't drinking their beer. :2razz:

Oh and I always do Monte.....besides sometimes pouting with Female Democrats. Works! :lol:
 
It appears you downplay it like here. BO policies fuel on Juniors fire. That could be taken as a sprinkle here and there. Not so much like something that got out of control or worse. Like creating a whole new type of fire.

But then again you have shown when directed at BO.....while admitting BO has added fuel. That Bush Jr is who you will go and take it too.

Always back to Buuuuuuusssssh. Sure hope ya aren't drinking their beer. :2razz:

Oh and I always do Monte.....besides sometimes pouting with Female Democrats. Works! :lol:

I guess you've never seen gas thrown on a fire.
 
Yep yep. That 2006 NIE concluded that the invasion and occupation of Iraq caused a increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe. Stop supporting US military adventurism that endangers us, it's very anti-American, hear?

That's great. Now how about joining us in the Present?

Since Obama's taken office, Islamic Terrorist activity has spiked off the charts.
 
If that's true, Obama would still insist we aren't losing the war against ISIS.

What do "WE" have to do with the Islamic State encircling Baghdad? Iraq has a US trained and equipped army of 300,000! If Baghdad falls, seems like Iraq is loosing the war against the Islamic State!!!!!
 
That's great. Now how about joining us in the Present?

Since Obama's taken office, Islamic Terrorist activity has spiked off the charts.

Right, bush unlocked the door and cracked it, Obama swung it wide open, and, what do you want, more failed US policy in the ME?
 
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