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White House Promises to Bomb Ramadi Until City Retaken From ISIS

Wrong, Bush handed Obama a won war. And by Biden and Obama's own words Iraq was a great accomplishment for Obama's administration. Yep he took all the credit of a great accomplishment in Iraq.

Obama is always there to take credit when its convenient. But if its not-its Booosh's fault.
 
So what are you saying? We should just quit and hope not too many people die when they start launching attacks in the streets of Europe and America?

Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle.
 
So what are you saying? We should just quit and hope not too many people die when they start launching attacks in the streets of Europe and America?

Yep, that is exactly what he is saying.
 
Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle.

Was 9-11 before the Bush war in Iraq or after.
 
Wrong, Bush handed Obama a won war. And by Biden and Obama's own words Iraq was a great accomplishment for Obama's administration. Yep he took all the credit of a great accomplishment in Iraq.

Bush fought al Qaeda in Afghanistan, which group followed him to Iraq and fought him there. They were defeated in neither, and flourished in Iraq, organising as the Islamic State in Iraq in 2006 (ISI). Subsequent to Obama's policies in the region, they spread to Libya and Syria. The growth of the Islamic State is a joint effort in which they both share blame, Iraq has been a failure since the spring of 2003.
 
Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle.

If 9-11 was before the Iraq war, then that means the consequences of the Iraq war had nothing to do with Islamic Extremist genie getting out of the bottle.
 
If 9-11 was before the Iraq war, then that means the consequences of the Iraq war had nothing to do with Islamic Extremist genie getting out of the bottle.

You haven't noticed the Islamic state terrorising the entire Middle East I know, you sleep sound every night here with no worries, I'm sure. The Middle East on the other hand is suffering under the weight of that scourge that was nicely contained by those we engaged in regime change on.
 
Bush fought al Qaeda in Afghanistan, which group followed him to Iraq and fought him there. They were defeated in neither, and flourished in Iraq, organising as the Islamic State in Iraq in 2006 (ISI). Subsequent to Obama's policies in the region, they spread to Libya and Syria. The growth of the Islamic State is a joint effort in which they both share blame, Iraq has been a failure since the spring of 2003.

I would suggest you tell Biden he was dead wrong when he said Iraq was a great accomplishment of the Obama administration. Plus subsequent to Obama's failed policies in the region they spread to Libya and Syria and now are taking over Iraq. To make matters worse Iran is on the march across the middle east. Obama calls ISIS the JV team. What an idiot. And lets not forget he's losing in Afghanistan.

Christ Russia and Iran tell Obama to jump and how high and Syria crosses the red line.
 
You haven't noticed the Islamic state terrorising the entire Middle East I know, you sleep sound every night here with no worries, I'm sure. The Middle East on the other hand is suffering under the weight of that scourge that was nicely contained by those we engaged in regime change on.

Nice try, I say it again:

If 9-11 was before the Iraq war, then that means the consequences of the Iraq war had nothing to do with Islamic Extremist genie getting out of the bottle. No maybe you should concentrate on who let the Islamic extremist genie out of the bottle rather than blaming it on Bush who had nothing to do with what you claim.

You seem to be really confused of your facts. I mean like dead wrong.
 
I would suggest you tell Biden he was dead wrong when he said Iraq was a great accomplishment of the Obama administration. Plus subsequent to Obama's failed policies in the region they spread to Libya and Syria and now are taking over Iraq. To make matters worse Iran is on the march across the middle east. Obama calls ISIS the JV team. What an idiot. And lets not forget he's losing in Afghanistan.

Christ Russia and Iran tell Obama to jump and how high and Syria crosses the red line.

I've pointed out numerous times both that Biden was wrong, and that Obama's policies have exacerbated the problems created by Bush???????? Where have you been.
 
Nice try, I say it again:

If 9-11 was before the Iraq war, then that means the consequences of the Iraq war had nothing to do with Islamic Extremist genie getting out of the bottle. No maybe you should concentrate on who let the Islamic extremist genie out of the bottle rather than blaming it on Bush who had nothing to do with what you claim.

You seem to be really confused of your facts. I mean like dead wrong.

You may take your false argument up with our nations 16 intelligence agencies which produced a report in 2006 that concluded (by consensus no less) that the invasion and occupation of Iraq, worsened the problem of terrorism, and made America less safe. You're stumbling on that fact.
 
I've pointed out numerous times both that Biden was wrong, and that Obama's policies have exacerbated the problems created by Bush???????? Where have you been.

Your getting there, Biden was wrong and Obama's policies are a failure. We agree on that. But the main point here is that Obama pulled out of Iraq after a won war. Now as a result of Obama's failures we have the middle east in flames.
 
You may take your false argument up with our nations 16 intelligence agencies which produced a report in 2006 that concluded (by consensus no less) that the invasion and occupation of Iraq, worsened the problem of terrorism, and made America less safe. You're stumbling on that fact.

Montecresto quote:
"Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle."

I correct you, you speak only of Iraq and state as a result of the Iraq war the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle. That is a dead wrong statement. The genie was out of the bottle long before the Iraq War. And because of Obama's failure in pulling out of Iraq left a hole that is now filled with ISIS and as a result ISIS is now on the march as is Iran.

To go further Obama's failures are also in Afghanistan as he is losing that war. Syria walked over the red line and stomped all over our fag. Libya is a mess, as is most of the middle east as a direct result of Obama pulling out of Iraq.

Russia and Iran tell Obama to jump and how high and Syria took Obama's red line as a joke. I mean the list goes on and on.
 
Your getting there, Biden was wrong and Obama's policies are a failure. We agree on that. But the main point here is that Obama pulled out of Iraq after a won war. Now as a result of Obama's failures we have the middle east in flames.

No war was won.
 
Montecresto quote:
"Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle."

I correct you, you speak only of Iraq and state as a result of the Iraq war the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle. That is a dead wrong statement. The genie was out of the bottle long before the Iraq War. And because of Obama's failure in pulling out of Iraq left a hole that is now filled with ISIS and as a result ISIS is now on the march as is Iran.

To go further Obama's failures are also in Afghanistan as he is losing that war. Syria walked over the red line and stomped all over our fag. Libya is a mess, as is most of the middle east as a direct result of Obama pulling out of Iraq.

Russia and Iran tell Obama to jump and how high and Syria took Obama's red line as a joke. I mean the list goes on and on.

I'm an Obama foreign policy critic, why do you keep pointing this out to me. What you need to do is accept Bush's Middle East policy failures.
 
I'm an Obama foreign policy critic, why do you keep pointing this out to me. What you need to do is accept Bush's Middle East policy failures.

How about you trying to admit you were wrong in stating that the Iraq war had nothing to do about the extremist genie getting out of the bottle, it was long out of the bottle way before 9-11.

Montecresto quote:
"Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle."
 
No war was won.

:doh According to you, but not according to Biden and Obama, according to Obama Iraq was a great accomplishment for his administration. And to prove that point he pulled out all the ground troops and our air-force, leaving no one behind.

Now after his failed policy in Iraq the middle east is in flames and Obama is back into Iraq with ground troops and our air-force, what an idiot.

You can't change the facts.

I would suggest that you come to grips and acknowledge that what we know now it was a blunder of disastrous proportions forfeiting American blood and treasure by pulling out of Iraq. This has nothing to do with Bush nor all those in the Senate who voted for the war. Plus I will admit what we know now we should have not gone into Iraq. But that is what we know now. This is no different than Obama's failure to not stay in Iraq to protect American blood and treasure, as we know now that was a disastrous blunder.
 
How about you trying to admit you were wrong in stating that the Iraq war had nothing to do about the extremist genie getting out of the bottle, it was long out of the bottle way before 9-11.

Montecresto quote:
"Perhaps you should have been thinking about consequences when you were supporting that morons failed war in Iraq, not after the Islamic extremist genie was let out of the bottle."

Was there an Islamic State prior to the Iraq war, hmm? Now stop being foolish. While there have been terrorist attacks from time to time, there was not EVER the amount of Islamic extremism that we've seen in the last dozen years. Again, stop speaking from ignorance and go read the 2006 NIE, otherwise, you and I have nothing else to discuss.
 
:doh According to you, but not according to Biden and Obama, according to Obama Iraq was a great accomplishment for his administration. And to prove that point he pulled out all the ground troops and our air-force, leaving no one behind.

Now after his failed policy in Iraq the middle east is in flames and Obama is back into Iraq with ground troops and our air-force, what an idiot.

You can't change the facts.

I would suggest that you come to grips and acknowledge that what we know now it was a blunder of disastrous proportions forfeiting American blood and treasure by pulling out of Iraq. This has nothing to do with Bush nor all those in the Senate who voted for the war. Plus I will admit what we know now we should have not gone into Iraq. But that is what we know now. This is no different than Obama's failure to not stay in Iraq to protect American blood and treasure, as we know now that was a disastrous blunder.

**** Bush, Obama and Biden and Cheney, all of whom have failed miserably in the Middle East.
 
Was there an Islamic State prior to the Iraq war, hmm? Now stop being foolish. While there have been terrorist attacks from time to time, there was not EVER the amount of Islamic extremism that we've seen in the last dozen years. Again, stop speaking from ignorance and go read the 2006 NIE, otherwise, you and I have nothing else to discuss.

You continue to fail to answer questions? And you say there have been some terrorist attacks from time to time. How about from 1920. I'll take your advice, you and I have nothing else to discuss.

Thank you.

For your reference, history of terrorist attacks against the US. The genie was out of the bottle a long time ago, way before the Iraq war. And only because of Obama's failed policy of pulling troops out of Iraq is where we are today. Have a good day

Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans
 
You continue to fail to answer questions? And you say there have been some terrorist attacks from time to time. How about from 1920. I'll take your advice, you and I have nothing else to discuss.

Thank you.

For your reference, history of terrorist attacks against the US. The genie was out of the bottle a long time ago, way before the Iraq war. And only because of Obama's failed policy of pulling troops out of Iraq is where we are today. Have a good day

Terrorist Attacks in the U.S. or Against Americans

Nighty night.
 
However, reporters based in Iraq on Sunday said that the ISF had fled Ramadi, reportedly leaving their wounded behind and abandoning equipment in a scene similar to last summer when ISIS fighters swept into the northwestern city of Mosul against little resistance.

I thought these boys are US trained and using US equipment. They sure do drop and run a lot.

Yeah, they do.
 
However, reporters based in Iraq on Sunday said that the ISF had fled Ramadi, reportedly leaving their wounded behind and abandoning equipment in a scene similar to last summer when ISIS fighters swept into the northwestern city of Mosul against little resistance.

I thought these boys are US trained and using US equipment. They sure do drop and run a lot.

Yeah, they do.
Perhaps we'll see a renaissance of a new version of the old joke concerning the "High Value" of French WWII rifles. (they've never been used :mrgreen:)
 
Perhaps we'll see a renaissance of a new version of the old joke concerning the "High Value" of French WWII rifles. (they've never been used :mrgreen:)

Funny you should say that. A friend and I were just comparing them to the French yesterday.
 
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