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Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant[W:33]

Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

If he wants to go to New Mexico, he'll have a hard time passing up "Amarillo by Mornin".
Even US 54, a great road from KS to NM, cuts through the NW corner of TX.

Now US 56 just misses TX--and heads for Angel Fire and the "Enchanted Circle"--wife and I have seen much of NM.
Within that circle is an enclave known as "little Texas"--just as in SC Colorado.

There's something about NM that truly intrigues me--even at this moment.
Their state symbol is the best that ever was, is, and ever will be.
(a world without end Amen)

Dude i would take any state in the union BUT TEXAS, it's a dust bowl full of Rednecks, Tornado's REMEMBER LAST WEEK?? it's a right to work state , rated 30! on states with the LOWEST median incomes, ( Michigan is 32) NOT TO MENTION ROUGHLY 33% of the population lack health insurance!!!

And with every psychopath in the state packing, **** like this will get more common...

Ill be going back to Seattle when i finish out my contract here in Michigan..
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

someone who was a LIBERAL who is NOW a conservative

For another discussion.

NEOCONS often retain leftwing SOCIAL values such as being in favor of GUN CONTROL like well known NEO CONS like Charles Krauthammer

didn't know Charles was for Gun Control--must be moderate like me--few of us there are-
I never miss him, as I've said too many times, on the all-Star Panel--6:35 EDT.

so surprised this thread broke down early and often on the white/black thing :2razz:
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

I actually live just off US 54 (called the Patriot Freeway here). There's a lot of cool places in NM. Been skiing in Ruidoso and Taos. Santa Fe's a nice place to visit all times of the year. The only bad thing about NM is the enchanted drivers.

I'm convinced it's like that in every state we venture to.
My wife is from IOWA--Idiots Out Wandering Around.

Their mega-hog farms are known for their stench from I-80.
Just like the new Dairy farms just west of I-76 in NW Colorado.
And the ranches along your I-54 from Tucumcari to anywhere, Kansas.

Closer to you, try I-70 from Denver to the Eisenhower Tunnel--especially during weather--if you're out-of-state, they must tail-gate.
Up-and-down grades with only two lanes and slow to very slow trucks.

As for the worst states, that's easily still the Northeast--Mass and Conn.

I now ride the left lane no matter where I am in cities--especially knowing hidden speed cameras are popping up all over.
I know I'm safe on my left unless there's a vehicle in the median and just watch the idiots pass me on the right as they switch multiple lanes .
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

Gee, it's a basic rule. If you're going to hurl stones, at least try not to make it so obvious that you live in a glass house.

Notice how he's not responded to me since I pointed that out. :D
 
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I love it when gangs of any type cull each other from the herd.
 
I wonder what the initial motivation for the animosity was? With gang bangers I can understand it. It usually originates over turf wars, over who gets to sell drugs where. It is about cold hard cash. It doesn't justify it but I get it.

I wonder what it was here. Is Sons of Anarchy more realistic than I give it credit for? Do modern day biker gangs actually have their hands in gun and drug running?

Or was it over something completely mundane?

Depends on the club and the location. This also could have been building up. It is surprising how trivial issues snowball in this kind of culture.

I wonder how many of what group was killed and the repercussions. This isn't going to just go away if it involves Banditos.
 
Natural selection happens a lot in TX.
 
Glad to see dead bikers just as I'm always glad to see dead gangbangers of any faction. It's truly a shame only 9 overweight lifelong criminal scumbags ended up deleting each other from the universe.



Yet another perfect real life example of why the masses of any society should not have guns. The cops should have simply shot every biker in attendance. They're all virulent scum filth.
 
Glad to see dead bikers just as I'm always glad to see dead gangbangers of any faction. It's truly a shame only 9 overweight lifelong criminal scumbags ended up deleting each other from the universe.



Yet another perfect real life example of why the masses of any society should not have guns. The cops should have simply shot every biker in attendance. They're all virulent scum filth.

so you want cops to kill people and have no ability to fight back? that sort of attitude was prevalent is Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia and other places where the government murdered millions.

the masses are what most people would call the public
 
From what I found, it was basically the Bandidos and the Cossacks. What happened to good old American Biker gangs:

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These morons should organize better. They could have staged a Pay-per-View in Baylor's football stadium with a round-robin tournament against all the biker gangs.
 
Glad to see dead bikers just as I'm always glad to see dead gangbangers of any faction. It's truly a shame only 9 overweight lifelong criminal scumbags ended up deleting each other from the universe.

Ironically, most "outlaw" bikers today are not life long criminal- most do not have criminal histories outside of public intoxication or disorderly conduct type offenses and bikers holding high skill blue collar jobs is not unusual. The one man I know who is in a uhhmm... "club" is an aircraft mechanic for his day job. Basically, most of the initial generations of total criminal outlaws are either dead (shoot outs, crashes and hard living) or serving decades in prison. That does not mean that the current generation of bikers is warm and fuzzy, just that statistically most are not career criminals.

I wonder what the initial motivation for the animosity was? With gang bangers I can understand it. It usually originates over turf wars, over who gets to sell drugs where. It is about cold hard cash. It doesn't justify it but I get it.

I wonder what it was here. Is Sons of Anarchy more realistic than I give it credit for? Do modern day biker gangs actually have their hands in gun and drug running?

Or was it over something completely mundane?

I am guessing mundane rather than criminal as most of these guys are not criminals in the true sense of the word (of course not being a criminal does automatically mean one is a "role model").

As a side note, I have read that one of the clubs / gangs has been beefing up their numbers by recruiting from inner city gangsters. Unlike the older membership who have a sense of self control, these new recruits may well have brought a mentality that turned fist fights into what... fire fights?
 
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Gee is this Obama's fault too, LOL:lamo, hey WHAT ABOUT WHITE ON WHITE CRIME??????, cmon you NEO CONS here on this site are always bringing up detroit and Chicago???

All i see sitting around the crime scene are a bunch of fat stupid looking white goons..

That's because you're a "progressive" and race division is what defines your observation.
 
There is a damn good chance the answer is zero. Why the hell would you think otherwise?

In TEXAS!?! Sorry, but it only stands to reason that not many of those guys were carrying illegally.
 
GEE ALL I SEE ARE A BUNCH OF WHITE GANG BANGERS SHOCKER HUH!!:roll:

With US Marine logos on the backs of their vests? The latest footage was just reported on CBS this morning showing such a gang.
 
The cops are carefully spelling out the "criminal gangbanger" nature of the five different gangs.
 
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Wyatt Earp was a badass because he *fought* the outlaws, and lived to over 80 in an environment where you had to wear a gun at your hip just to survive. These fools in texas are deluded to think it's the same now as in Earp's time

As a side note, Wyat Earp was a quasi out law himself who was known to pimp women at brothels in two seperate cities. Many of the old west marshals and out laws had similar career paths that started with service in irregular union or confederate units, post war boredom, and being accustomed to violence, seeking employment where their skills could be applied.
 
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Something very similar to this happened in Nevada over 10 years ago, and ironic how gangs like the Mafia, (ran by whites) and those Aryan Militia pro white Government hating maggots, never get negatively brought up by the Conservatives, Repugs, it's always Mexicans blah blah blah, oh and Chicago, why is that??:shrug:

Guess all them White gangs, are the Democrats Liberals fault too huh!?????

So are you looking to do a comparison between biker violence and inner city violence? Are you really ready to ride your ridiculous argument to the end?

16 gang murders in Chicago so far in May...
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

Please stop with the racist comments. You're an expert on gun ownership and use, not race.

What he is saying isn't racist, it's just statistics.... you can't really hate statistics... You can choose not to act upon statistics, but you shouldn't ignore that they are there
 
He used to infiltrate bike gangs running MAC machine pistols years ago. and yeah, compared to say the Rasta Posses or the TRIAD or the Russian "Mafia" bike gangs were rather easy to infiltrate

My bet is that all the other groups have a strong madatory ethnic component to them. Bikers, may have ethnic preferences but not ethnic obsessions. Thus, they can infiltrated by generic law enforcement. Meanwhile an agent trying to inflitrate the New York Russian mob must not only be ethnically Russian, but must also speak Russian and must also have their criminal credentials verified by using sources in the Mother Land. Ditto for TRIADs and Rasta Posses.
 
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As a side note, Wyat Earp was a quasi out law himself who was known to pimp women at brothels in two seperate cities. Many of the old west marshals and out laws had similar career paths that started with service in irregular union or confederate units, post war boredom, and being accustomed to violence, seeking employment where their skills could be applied.

This is the most informed and intelligent post in this whole thread.
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

What is odd that the 3 gangs pick a restaurant to meet up for a fight.

I know if I am sitting down to a chicken fried steak and the Angels, Mongels and Bandidoes all pull into the parking lot I am going to get a doggie bag and exit.



Actually I think it was supposed to be some sort of "peace summit" or negotiation about drug trade, and things went south unexpectedly.
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

Actually I think it was supposed to be some sort of "peace summit" or negotiation about drug trade, and things went south unexpectedly.

I thought it was related to Jade Helm.
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

Five clubs, all packing heat, having a summit in the middle of nowhere, meeting to hash-out their conflicts.

"What could possibly go wrong"?
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

Wow! And you thought English football hooligans and Chicago gang-bangers were beyond the pale.

I'm surprised this happened.

Biker violence used to be pretty popular years ago.

The Federal government used to spend allot of resources infiltrating their operations.

My guess is that THIS Federal government is using their resources on other things which allowed this to get out of hand.
 
Re: Texas: 9 Dead Bikers in Gun Shootout at Twin Peaks restaurant

Actually I think it was supposed to be some sort of "peace summit" or negotiation about drug trade, and things went south unexpectedly.

Where was the ATF ? The Feds ?

Large scale Biker violence used to be a thing of the past because the FEDs infiltrated their gangs and charged them under the RICO statute.
 
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